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warnock83
warnock83 Posts: 2 Member
edited June 2015 in Food and Nutrition
In the area that I live there is a huge community of clean eating/organic eating. Do you think that eating organic is important?
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  • Elle_Bronwyn15
    Elle_Bronwyn15 Posts: 296 Member
    I do only because I have an issue with pesticides...it gives me an upset stomach. But believe it or not a few weeks ago I bought some organic produce and got EXTREMELY sick from it, so I don't know that that was about...bacteria maybe?
  • TrailBlazinMN
    TrailBlazinMN Posts: 209 Member
    edited June 2015
    I think eating organic is extremely important. I buy it whenever I can because I'm not a huge fan of having herbicides and pesticides on my food. When they apply that stuff, there is a reason why they are wearing suits...it's because it's toxic.

    There are people that say that you don't get that much nutrition benefit from it but that's very primitive thinking. There is so much more to food than just macros, calories, vitamins, and/or minerals. Every biological process and chemical reaction our bodies have to food and the possible toxins it carries are way too complex for anyone to fully comprehend. With that said, I do my best to fuel my body with the best available food. It's just a no brainer for me.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    Fact: You still have pesticides with organic food.

    https://ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html

    Fact: There is very little investigation by the government for compliance when it comes to the rules for using the USDA Organic label...and enforcement from the government for violations is minimal.

    Report Finds Lax USDA Organic Oversight

    I refuse to pay a ridiculous amount of money for food that bears the USDA Organic Certified Seal when we have no idea if it really is 100% organic or not.

    That said, it is a good thing to buy locally produced produce in season and support your local farmers, organic or not.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    warnock83 wrote: »
    Do you think that eating organic is important?

    No, it is way down the list and largely a waste of money.

    You can eat a healthy, balanced diet without eating any organic produce whatsoever.

  • mistikal13
    mistikal13 Posts: 1,457 Member
    It's not at the top of my priority list.
  • Sarasmaintaining
    Sarasmaintaining Posts: 1,027 Member
    edited June 2015
    warnock83 wrote: »
    In the area that I live there is a huge community of clean eating/organic eating. Do you think that eating organic is important?

    Nope :)

    I do however make it a priority to buy locally produced food whenever possible. During the growing season in my area I get all my produce from local farms. I love supporting local businesses and also the food is much fresher.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I do think organic is important, espeically for produce. As much, or more, from an environmental perspective as from a diet perspective.

    I think antibotic and steroid free is more important than organic when it comes to meat.
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.
  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    I try to ingest less pesticides and drugs.

    That is one way.

    It would be nice if organic growers were held to high standards.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.

    Mine mostly comes from my gardens.
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.

    Mine mostly comes from my gardens.

    cool...so what's your brand in my grocery store?
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    _John_ wrote: »
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.

    Mine mostly comes from my gardens.

    cool...so what's your brand in my grocery store?

    Sorry, not for sale.
  • MonkeyMel21
    MonkeyMel21 Posts: 2,396 Member
    It is not important for me. I do try to buy non hormone/steroid/antibiotic milk for my son though.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    Not even on my radar
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    edited June 2015
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!
  • bluefish86
    bluefish86 Posts: 842 Member
    I buy organic for certain foods like spinach because it's hard to wash thoroughly without wilting/bruising it... anything with a thick skin or a peel, I don't bother.
  • jodibelle
    jodibelle Posts: 79 Member
    I think organic fruits and veggies look and taste better. That's usually the only kinds of food I worry about getting organic for when possible. Alot of times if I can catch things on sale its not usually a huge price difference between the regular and organic.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    _John_ wrote: »
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.

    Mine mostly comes from my gardens.

    cool...so what's your brand in my grocery store?

    Sorry, not for sale.

    So you do realize this thread is about buying organic food, right?
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    _John_ wrote: »
    _John_ wrote: »
    It's insignificant nutritionally and costs a LOT more. And when you see the MASSIVE farms either are grown on, does it REALLY matter that much?

    In America it mostly comes from the same water lacking, smog filled valley in California anyway.

    Mine mostly comes from my gardens.

    cool...so what's your brand in my grocery store?

    Sorry, not for sale.

    So you do realize this thread is about buying organic food, right?

    The OP says "eating organic".
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!

    I doubt that the big industrial farms touting the organic labels like Olivias and the like are going to be hand picking bugs off.

    Buying from smaller local farms is always better but not always possible year round. The organic label you see in the supermarket may or may not be truly organic, since there is not much policing going on, and you can bet your bottom dollar that if pesticides are allowed (which they are, they just cannot be synthetic, they must be derived from natural sources) they will be for many of the items you see in the store.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!

    I doubt that the big industrial farms touting the organic labels like Olivias and the like are going to be hand picking bugs off.

    Buying from smaller local farms is always better but not always possible year round. The organic label you see in the supermarket may or may not be truly organic, since there is not much policing going on, and you can bet your bottom dollar that if pesticides are allowed (which they are, they just cannot be synthetic, they must be derived from natural sources) they will be for many of the items you see in the store.

    And soon a synthetic pesticide may be allowed on produce carrying the USDA Organic label. If you want to keep organic to non-synthetic you should write or call your cogressional respresentatives, and do it soon.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    eric_sg61 wrote: »

    Stopped reading at this false statement: "We know that any remaining pesticide residues on both conventional and organic produce aren't harmful to consumers. "

    We know that none have been proven harmful. Which is vastly different than knowing they are not harmful.
  • GCPgirl
    GCPgirl Posts: 208 Member
    My garden is all grown from organic seeds and I buy organic milk and eggs but it gets pricey to buy everything organic.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    msf74 wrote: »
    warnock83 wrote: »
    Do you think that eating organic is important?

    No, it is way down the list and largely a waste of money.

    You can eat a healthy, balanced diet without eating any organic produce whatsoever.

    ^ I'm in agreement with this ^
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    miriamtob wrote: »
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!

    You can't ever truly use no pesticides. Plants themselves all have SOME level of pesticide they produce - a plant isn't looking to have things eat it, other than to an extent, fruit that is usually looking to only feed birds or other highly mobile animal eat it, not insects.
  • miriamtob
    miriamtob Posts: 436 Member
    edited June 2015
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!

    I doubt that the big industrial farms touting the organic labels like Olivias and the like are going to be hand picking bugs off.

    Buying from smaller local farms is always better but not always possible year round. The organic label you see in the supermarket may or may not be truly organic, since there is not much policing going on, and you can bet your bottom dollar that if pesticides are allowed (which they are, they just cannot be synthetic, they must be derived from natural sources) they will be for many of the items you see in the store.

    It was actually a usda fully certified organic farm where we hand picked bugs. The guidelines for that label are stringent, not lenient like you are putting forth.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    miriamtob wrote: »
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    I used to work on an organic farm. They were held to very high standards and NEVER used pesticides. You know how we got rid of these guys? Hand picked them off the plants and squished them!

    You can't ever truly use no pesticides. Plants themselves all have SOME level of pesticide they produce - a plant isn't looking to have things eat it, other than to an extent, fruit that is usually looking to only feed birds or other highly mobile animal eat it, not insects.

    Chemicals that the plant produces to protect itself is not a human using pesticide, though.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    FYI, buying local might taste better / be fresher, but it is probably WORSE for the environment.
    Far more energy goes into the actual growing of crops than does transportation, so if crops are grown where it is ideal - like if Idaho for potatoes, or Midwest for corn - they will use so much less inputs in growing, it probably outweighs the environmental cost of transporting it across the country.
  • jaga13
    jaga13 Posts: 1,149 Member
    I don't go out of my way to buy organic produce, but I do sometimes buy it. I probably would buy more of it if it was cheaper and lasted longer. There are some people who obsess over organic EVERYTHING. To me, buying a package of "organic crackers" is a waste. Would I like fewer pesticides in my life? Yeah, I guess that would be good. But it's definitely not at the top of my list. I'd rather focus on me and my kids eating lots of fruit, veggies, healthy fats, and lean protein (with some treats, too!).