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Is it true that youre body will start slowing down in losing weight after losing the water weight? and also losing weight is it solely based on counting calories,6mi jogging, should amp up how long you jog or how many miles you jog or is it just calorie counting and the fact youre just plain doing something that will help you lose weight lol3
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blues4miles wrote: »HappyCampr1 wrote: »I was reading in another thread about a study which showed that people actually aren't eating much more than they did 50 years ago. It's just that we're so much more sedentary than we used to be that our bodies can't use all the energy we're supplying them with. The Gov't has done studies on the overall consumption rate and food production. We're just not as active and we haven't lowered consumption to match.
I agree with this. Prior to WWII my family were a bunch of farmers. You could eat a lot when you were keeping a whole farm going with just your growing kids. Probably didn't have access to as much convenience food or candy as I did, probably the bread they ate might not be as nutritious and calorie dense as the bread I get, but still they could eat a fair amount with all the work they were doing. 1941 sent their sons and daughters to war and to work. It enabled them and their children to choose non-farming occupations post-war. It enabled many of their grandkids to be the first in their families to go to college.
I suspect many families could tell the same story. Maybe 3 to 4 generations ago, people had to work HARD, physically, to survive. And when they sat down to ate, the food just wasn't as nutritious and high calorie as it is now. Look at WWII soldiers and how scrawny they are in comparison to the modern soldier. What we've done for food has been amazing. People were starving and working hard just to get by and feed themselves a couple generations ago. Now the food is so much higher quality and cheaper. I wouldn't trade my walks or my running for going back on the family farm just to be thinner. We should be amazed with the advancements in industrialization and food quality. We just need to be careful. Maybe in 50 years from now they'll be devising food that is high volume and low calorie in order to deal with our new modern problems. But the food we have now was fixing an amazing survival issue from 50+ years ago.
I gardened for 5 hours over the weekend. I was exhausted and my hamstrings are sore. I can only imagine how much I could eat if I did this 10-12 hours per day. During the height of the season, it's not unusual for my mom to put in 8 hours per day gardening and her weight always hovers around Under Weight.3 -
audiovisual1980 wrote: »Is it true that youre body will start slowing down in losing weight after losing the water weight? and also losing weight is it solely based on counting calories,6mi jogging, should amp up how long you jog or how many miles you jog or is it just calorie counting and the fact youre just plain doing something that will help you lose weight lol
Many people have really good numbers when they begin losing weight due to losing water weight and weight doesn't come off as easy as you go along. The thing to remember is something you will hear here often, weight loss isn't linear. You will have weeks you don't lose as much and weeks you may even gain. From your picture I am guessing you are female. You will have the added frustration of your period and water retention one week a month at least. This is a long term process and you have to take a long view and not react to every up and down. Stay to a plan.
As far as calorie counting, the point of calorie counting is to maintain a calorie deficit. Eat less calories than you burn. Burning more calories will allow you to eat more, but exercise isn't needed to lose weight. There are many people here who lost weight without exercising at all or never exercised for many months. That isn't to say exercise doesn't have a place, it helps make your body perform better, it can help you feel better about yourself, it can be a social activity, it can allow you to eat more, it can greatly increase your quality of life.
There are some great threads and tips to help you if you are new here in the getting started section:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/categories/getting-started
Read the threads here and if people sometimes seem to have a nasty tone ignore it. A lot of highly successful people don't waste a lot of time on sugar coating what works, but they give awesome advice. Sometimes a good shock to the system is what people need.
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kshama2001 wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »HappyCampr1 wrote: »I was reading in another thread about a study which showed that people actually aren't eating much more than they did 50 years ago. It's just that we're so much more sedentary than we used to be that our bodies can't use all the energy we're supplying them with. The Gov't has done studies on the overall consumption rate and food production. We're just not as active and we haven't lowered consumption to match.
I agree with this. Prior to WWII my family were a bunch of farmers. You could eat a lot when you were keeping a whole farm going with just your growing kids. Probably didn't have access to as much convenience food or candy as I did, probably the bread they ate might not be as nutritious and calorie dense as the bread I get, but still they could eat a fair amount with all the work they were doing. 1941 sent their sons and daughters to war and to work. It enabled them and their children to choose non-farming occupations post-war. It enabled many of their grandkids to be the first in their families to go to college.
I suspect many families could tell the same story. Maybe 3 to 4 generations ago, people had to work HARD, physically, to survive. And when they sat down to ate, the food just wasn't as nutritious and high calorie as it is now. Look at WWII soldiers and how scrawny they are in comparison to the modern soldier. What we've done for food has been amazing. People were starving and working hard just to get by and feed themselves a couple generations ago. Now the food is so much higher quality and cheaper. I wouldn't trade my walks or my running for going back on the family farm just to be thinner. We should be amazed with the advancements in industrialization and food quality. We just need to be careful. Maybe in 50 years from now they'll be devising food that is high volume and low calorie in order to deal with our new modern problems. But the food we have now was fixing an amazing survival issue from 50+ years ago.
I gardened for 5 hours over the weekend. I was exhausted and my hamstrings are sore. I can only imagine how much I could eat if I did this 10-12 hours per day. During the height of the season, it's not unusual for my mom to put in 8 hours per day gardening and her weight always hovers around Under Weight.
My godfather was a farmer and I remember spending time on his farm. He was about six foot tall and probably was 160 pounds of all muscle. He would eat close to a dozen eggs in the morning, a few sandwiches for lunch and often his wife would make two casseroles for supper, one for her and her two kids and one for him. I would guess he ate 6000 calories a day easily during heavy work times, but he was up at 5am and worked hard labor straight through until 6 or 7 at night. I don't know what it would have taken for people working that hard to actually get fat.8 -
The poor woman--she sometimes eats 3 cream cakes all by herself, but she's convinced herself that she routinely eats 1400 calories a day.2
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Ah, the good old "slow metabolism" reasoning. In college I had my thyroid tested repeatedly, with the same results of always being "normal." But I was SO SURE something was wrong with my body, and my 20 lb college weight gain had nothing to do with our buffet-style cafeteria, the giant boxes of Goldfish I'd eat during all-nighters, the copious amounts of alcohol, the GIGANTIC cinnamon rolls the cafeteria made once a week, the free food at every meeting everywhere, the Mexican hot chocolate and chocolate peanut butter smoothies I'd grab between classes... I mean, I was walking everywhere! I worked out! I drank green tea! It MUST be my thyroid, right???
Yeah, no. Amazing how quickly the weight fell off once I started accurately tracking calories.17 -
I have to continuously fight my urge to underestimate, on meals I am not able to weigh. I also have to continuously fight the urge to "write off" bad days by not logging them. We have an incredible capacity for self delusion, but only some of us realize that we do, which is half the battle.
I force myself to log a bad day, like yesterday, even though it actually feels physically painful to note down the extra 50% of calories I stuffed down my face, above my deficit. I don't want to face up to those things, I really don't and I am ashamed that others will look at my diary and judge me. I do force myself though and have logged every piece of junk that has gone in my mouth for almost a year.
It really helps to live in the real world - it is the only way to progress, but it is a battle which requires constant vigilance.
I am 14kgs down, despite many many slips, I dust myself off and try again. If you face your nature, you have to succeed.
I could have written this post, word for word. Facing up to your failures is a tough thing to do.7 -
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Thanks for bumping the thread. Interesting stuff even if the original video is no longer available.
From the article -- "You need to keep this forefront in your mind and err on the high side with how many calories you believe you ate and drank, and the low side with what you think is your caloric burn."
Funny, I had just posted something similar on my profile feed about this is what I try to do when I can't really control the calories of how the food is prepared when I go out to eat (since this past holiday weekend I was at a number of different venues (festival, football game, restaurant)), and I'm sure I eat a bit more due to the social aspect of eating at these venues with friends.
I also posted that comment because I have seen quite a few people here WAY over estimate their calorie burn...giving themselves a calorie burn for "driving in traffic" and logging every little move they make around the house, and then wondering why they aren't losing weight. I basically estimate my cardio workouts (paddleboarding, walking, treadmill) and activity out of the norm for me (ex: walking 2 miles at a festival, taking 8 flights of stairs at the arena). I figure if I burn some calories while getting the mail, or taking out the trash, or walking to/from my car carrying my boards and equipment at my workout locations, or walking around the arena at a game, then good, I've got a bit more of a calorie deficit than I logged.
I figure if I can overestimate my calorie intake a bit because I couldn't measure things properly or possibly overate some portion sizes, and I underestimate my calorie burn activities, I'm probably just breaking even, and should still be able to lose weight even if I'm a bit off. Kind of a no brainer to me...but I'm guessing from what I've seen posted (and in this article) that this could be an epiphany to others.0 -
Thanks for bumping the thread. Interesting stuff even if the original video is no longer available.
From the article -- "You need to keep this forefront in your mind and err on the high side with how many calories you believe you ate and drank, and the low side with what you think is your caloric burn."
Funny, I had just posted something similar on my profile feed about this is what I try to do when I can't really control the calories of how the food is prepared when I go out to eat (since this past holiday weekend I was at a number of different venues (festival, football game, restaurant)), and I'm sure I eat a bit more due to the social aspect of eating at these venues with friends.
I also posted that comment because I have seen quite a few people here WAY over estimate their calorie burn...giving themselves a calorie burn for "driving in traffic" and logging every little move they make around the house, and then wondering why they aren't losing weight. I basically estimate my cardio workouts (paddleboarding, walking, treadmill) and activity out of the norm for me (ex: walking 2 miles at a festival, taking 8 flights of stairs at the arena). I figure if I burn some calories while getting the mail, or taking out the trash, or walking to/from my car carrying my boards and equipment at my workout locations, or walking around the arena at a game, then good, I've got a bit more of a calorie deficit than I logged.
I figure if I can overestimate my calorie intake a bit because I couldn't measure things properly or possibly overate some portion sizes, and I underestimate my calorie burn activities, I'm probably just breaking even, and should still be able to lose weight even if I'm a bit off. Kind of a no brainer to me...but I'm guessing from what I've seen posted (and in this article) that this could be an epiphany to others.
Yep, overestimating your calorie intake is always a good idea because it seems (as we've seen here) that we congenitally underestimate it.
Therefore, underestimating our calorie burn is good insurance in case of errors in the above equations.
(Also keeping an eye on our rate of loss so it's not too high or low.)
I'm sure there are people who give themselves a lightly active Activity Level then add in things like shopping for an hour. Oh dear.0 -
How is she so delusional?!0
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For those still looking for that original video. I found it on another site.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-losing-weight/8 -
BillMcKay1 wrote: »For those still looking for that original video. I found it on another site.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-losing-weight/
@BillMcKay1 Thank you very much!2 -
Thanks BillMcKay1 for the video ... I found it very informative and interesting. I tried the soup test on myself and found that I was not hungry for much longer when I blended my lunch into a soup than when I had it as a 'solid' ... Good trick!2
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I also posted that comment because I have seen quite a few people here WAY over estimate their calorie burn...giving themselves a calorie burn for "driving in traffic" and logging every little move they make around the house, and then wondering why they aren't losing weight.
Agreed. I had a friend on this site who would eat under 1200 calories every day, all in calorie dense food that lacked in nutrients. She'd lose a bit of weight then she was obviously getting hungry, so she'd stay low calorie but log things like "cooking/food prep, 30 minutes, 150 calories burned" and also logged sex as exercise. Then she'd eat those calories back. Every time she'd stall and make several posts about it daily, binge horribly, or stop logging on for a while; she last came back saying she regained 20 pounds. It was at that point I had to remove her because I couldn't take it anymore and knew any advice would be unwelcomed.
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