Diet Soda
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I looooooooooved diet coke sooooo much, but after I gave it up after getting pregnant for a third time, I don't crave it anymore. But to answer your question, I have heard that diet soda are worse for you because somehow they make you want to eat more and increase your appetite, I don't remember why, but I didn't really notice that when I used to drink it. Now I am a water drinker and unfortunately a juice drinker but for the calorie sake I'm like dang I should drink 0 calorie soda rather than 80 to 100 calories a cup of juice
but I'm really trying hard for water only.... 0 -
I drink mostly water (100+ oz a day right now, AZ summers are no joke), and have a Diet Coke at dinner. Doesn't make me more hungry. Everything is fine in moderation.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »They took the aspartame out of the Diet Pepsi.
I don't want the caffeine addiction again. I don't need the extra sodium (although I have lowered it enough that I could probably squeeze some in.) I can drink water pretty cheaply, why pay, but...
It makes it very tempting, lol. The second I heard it was really gone, I was like, "I could drink it again!"
Must stay strong, but maybe if I go out to eat.
I don't think that has happened yet because I just got a Diet Pepsi this morning and it had aspartame. The bottle had the Pepsi Pass summer promotion, so I know it isn't old. But I think there is a plan to switch to sucralose, it just hasn't happened yet.
Ya...it's all due to the "aspartame is bad mmmmkay" fear mongering. Their sales are down something like 5% so it makes more sense to the bottom line to change.
Yes, fear mongering is why they are going to change... I just haven't seen the change happen yet.0 -
why does diet sodas have sodium/salt in them?0
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CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
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A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
There is no "maybe" about it. Correlational studies are an alternative when experimental methods are not possible/ethical/etc.. Any time captive mice are used, random assignment is completely possible. Even if you didn't bother with any systematic randomization (which is unlikely) the mice used in these cases are genetically very similar and are reared in standardized conditions, so they're all pretty much the same at the beginning of the study anyway.
I haven't read the study, so I don't know what holes it may or may not have. I just get really, really sick of people constantly using the "correlation is not causation" rhyme someone taught them god knows when in cases where it is clearly not applicable. If you're going to discuss/critique statistical and research methods at least understand what you are saying. If you want to make other types of arguments, feel free.
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If you're not worried about artificial sweeteners and how they may or may not affect you, then guzzle away.
The only way for anyone to know how this stuff affects them is to quit drinking them for at least a month. Only then can they say with certainty if it does affect them or not.
Someone who has been drinking it everyday for years and years would be used to it's affects, and wouldn't know if it's affecting them in a negative way or not, as the feeling by now, would be normal for them and not noticeable.0 -
CatMoves2718 wrote: »CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
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A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
There is no "maybe" about it. Correlational studies are an alternative when experimental methods are not possible/ethical/etc.. Any time captive mice are used, random assignment is completely possible. Even if you didn't bother with any systematic randomization (which is unlikely) the mice used in these cases are genetically very similar and are reared in standardized conditions, so they're all pretty much the same at the beginning of the study anyway.
I haven't read the study, so I don't know what holes it may or may not have. I just get really, really sick of people constantly using the "correlation is not causation" rhyme someone taught them god knows when in cases where it is clearly not applicable. If you're going to discuss/critique statistical and research methods at least understand what you are saying. If you want to make other types of arguments, feel free.
I never made the correlation versus causation argument...thanks.
I haven't read those studies either, but there are holes just in what was posted.
First study - Rats were fed nothing but sweet drinks for 10 days, and then they ate more pudding? Compared to what rats? The rats that were fed their regular diet the remaining 10 days? That's what I am assuming based on the lack of info posted. Doesn't that kinda fall into the "no crap" category? Give me Gatorade for 10 days, and let my "clone" eat regular meals, I promise, I will eat more of the pudding as well after 10 days if that is what is available and it will have nothing to do with what was in the drinks, but more to do with what wasn't in them (ie...food).
And then in the second study, rats were given chocolate milk/pudding with their regular meals. The other group only had their meals fed to them. Here is the shocker...the rats that had chocolate milk/pudding gained more weight. I feel like a scientific study to prove that is kinda funny actually. Again, "no crap" category. If the rats had reasoning/logic skills, that's a pretty easy fix.
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Correlation studies are kind of thing in psychology, not diet.CatMoves2718 wrote: »CatMoves2718 wrote: »
A correlation study is hardly significant, especially when animals are involved.Elle_Bronwyn15 wrote: »
Everything can be bad in excess, I suggest seriously cutting back on the diet soda.
As mentioned, dosage can be an issue, so drink in moderation.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A designed experiment that involved randomly assigned mice is NOT correlational.
Maybe not, but it's still full of holes. Plus, we are talking about mice....which don't have the reasoning skills of humans.
There is no "maybe" about it. Correlational studies are an alternative when experimental methods are not possible/ethical/etc.. Any time captive mice are used, random assignment is completely possible. Even if you didn't bother with any systematic randomization (which is unlikely) the mice used in these cases are genetically very similar and are reared in standardized conditions, so they're all pretty much the same at the beginning of the study anyway.
I haven't read the study, so I don't know what holes it may or may not have. I just get really, really sick of people constantly using the "correlation is not causation" rhyme someone taught them god knows when in cases where it is clearly not applicable. If you're going to discuss/critique statistical and research methods at least understand what you are saying. If you want to make other types of arguments, feel free.
For diets and diseases, there are epidemiological studies. They still hold the correlation is not causation problem, period, not an exception. What epidemiological studies are good for are generating hypotheses to test in controlled experiments, or for doing a covariant analysis, that still can't establish causation, but can eliminate other correlating factors to increase the chance that the studied variable is likely to be the cause.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I sure hope not! I just switched to diet soda in the hopes that I could save some calories. I am only allowing myself (3) 12oz. cans per week.
Switching to a non-caloric beverage (diet soda) from a caloric beverage (regular soda) will reduce total calorie intake if all other things are equal.
The discussion here is focused more on the difference between different non-caloric beverages (diet soda and water).
The orginal post was, "I am a big diet coke fan, and drink quite a bit during the day. Sometimes I wonder if, in some weird way, it is negatively affecting my weight. Like doing something to my metabolism? Anyone have an insight or experiences in this?".
I think my reply fit the question. I didn't see where she asked what the difference was between any specific drinks to be honest 0 -
Christine, I like the way you think.christinev297 wrote: »If you're not worried about artificial sweeteners and how they may or may not affect you, then guzzle away.
The only way for anyone to know how this stuff affects them is to quit drinking them for at least a month. Only then can they say with certainty if it does affect them or not.
Someone who has been drinking it everyday for years and years would be used to it's affects, and wouldn't know if it's affecting them in a negative way or not, as the feeling by now, would be normal for them and not noticeable.
OP, the best way for you to see for yourself is to not drink it and see how you feel after at least a month. I think you will find that you will not miss it after a while and then wonder why you ever drank it in the first place.
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