Should I log this as exercise?
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Why would you not track the meal?0
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ProjectSYD wrote: »ProjectSYD wrote: »If you don't eat your exercise calories back anyway, why all the angst about logging or not? Log it, don't log it, doesn't matter. It's obvious you really want to so go for it...you body will tell you if what you are doing is working.
I dunno I guess I wanted to hear people's opinions on logging something like that - or should I not because it's not accurate. I always input less than time in exercise for these sorts of things and always input more for foods I'm unsure of (like if I eat out)snickerscharlie wrote: »ProjectSYD wrote: »I also don't eat the calories I burn from exorcising.
I hear that's quite taxing, so the burn rate should be pretty good.
In all seriousness, I would leave well enough alone. The exercise hopefully negates the buffet. And, if not, it's only one weekend.
Ive lost over 60lbs in the past but I found it was very emotionally stressful - partially because I sacrificed so much. I've planned to allow myself to go out once a week with the lady friend on our date night and to not worry about calories. I don't feel guilty about it. I'm just starting to partake in more physical activities. In the past I've used my pool once or twice a year. I've used it almost every sunny day this past 3 weeks.
I think they picked up on your spelling error..
Exorcising, as in exorcising a demon. This would be rather emotionally and physically taxing.
AND
Exercising , as in exercise
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ProjectSYD wrote: »ProjectSYD wrote: »If you don't eat your exercise calories back anyway, why all the angst about logging or not? Log it, don't log it, doesn't matter. It's obvious you really want to so go for it...you body will tell you if what you are doing is working.
I dunno I guess I wanted to hear people's opinions on logging something like that - or should I not because it's not accurate. I always input less than time in exercise for these sorts of things and always input more for foods I'm unsure of (like if I eat out)snickerscharlie wrote: »ProjectSYD wrote: »I also don't eat the calories I burn from exorcising.
I hear that's quite taxing, so the burn rate should be pretty good.
In all seriousness, I would leave well enough alone. The exercise hopefully negates the buffet. And, if not, it's only one weekend.
Ive lost over 60lbs in the past but I found it was very emotionally stressful - partially because I sacrificed so much. I've planned to allow myself to go out once a week with the lady friend on our date night and to not worry about calories. I don't feel guilty about it. I'm just starting to partake in more physical activities. In the past I've used my pool once or twice a year. I've used it almost every sunny day this past 3 weeks.
If you're going to ignore calories one day a week, I can only suggest that you give up the all you can eat buffets. Your body is logging it all whether you do or not, and you could easily surpass your deficit and exercise calories.0 -
ProjectSYD wrote: »If you don't eat your exercise calories back anyway, why all the angst about logging or not? Log it, don't log it, doesn't matter. It's obvious you really want to so go for it...you body will tell you if what you are doing is working.
I dunno I guess I wanted to hear people's opinions on logging something like that - or should I not because it's not accurate. I always input less than time in exercise for these sorts of things and always input more for foods I'm unsure of (like if I eat out)
Look I'm going to be blunt here
Fix your logging
You are fairly overweight so it's probably going to work at the moment ...but in the long term it's not ...I do wonder how your weight loss is going ...
I'm not sure about your food but I highly doubt that your logging is accurate
Your exercise logging is ridiculous .,,no way are you burning what you think and you are eating back
Yesterday over 890 calories for 45 mins leisurely swimming...what?
And you ate back 540 of them
You logged very little food and a decent calorie hit of alcohol
The day before you logged one meal for 488 calories and logged your beer run for 697 calories ..you didn't even slam in an estimate for the eat all you can buffet which could have been 3000 calories easily
20 mins of leisurely cycling or elliptical is not a 300 calories burn
How long have you been doing this? Have you lost anything?
If you start to wonder to yourself why it isn't working for you ...the answer is there in your face...you aren't doing it right
Fix that
Commit properly
Do it properly
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How to calorie count http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p10
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SherryTeach wrote: »If I don't track the meal, there isn't much point in tracking the exercise either.
This. It's time to move on and start logging a new day.0 -
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ProjectSYD wrote: »ProjectSYD wrote: »If you don't eat your exercise calories back anyway, why all the angst about logging or not? Log it, don't log it, doesn't matter. It's obvious you really want to so go for it...you body will tell you if what you are doing is working.
I dunno I guess I wanted to hear people's opinions on logging something like that - or should I not because it's not accurate. I always input less than time in exercise for these sorts of things and always input more for foods I'm unsure of (like if I eat out)
Look I'm going to be blunt here
Fix your logging
You are fairly overweight so it's probably going to work at the moment ...but in the long term it's not ...I do wonder how your weight loss is going ...
I'm not sure about your food but I highly doubt that your logging is accurate
Your exercise logging is ridiculous .,,no way are you burning what you think and you are eating back
Yesterday over 890 calories for 45 mins leisurely swimming...what?
And you ate back 540 of them
You logged very little food and a decent calorie hit of alcohol
The day before you logged one meal for 488 calories and logged your beer run for 697 calories ..you didn't even slam in an estimate for the eat all you can buffet which could have been 3000 calories easily
20 mins of leisurely cycling or elliptical is not a 300 calories burn
How long have you been doing this? Have you lost anything?
If you start to wonder to yourself why it isn't working for you ...the answer is there in your face...you aren't doing it right
Fix that
Commit properly
Do it properly
In the past I've lost 60 lbs in around 4 months doing this. Prior to being my weight now I was 210 and dropped to 155, we even shot a documentary about weight loss there's a short video online with me at my smallest. I was playing football and swimming laps in the pool, I logged it as leisurely, I was in the pool for 6-7 hours yesterday, not fourth five minutes. I logged more alcohol than I actually drank as well, I also didn't eat a 12 inch sub I just marked it as 12+ some because I don't think mfp takes into consideration the lettuce and ranch sauce that was added to the sub. Also I'm biking at around 18mph and even faster on the elliptical, I just put it as leisurely because I'm underestimating my calories lost. If you'd take time to read the posts you'd have already known that. I weighed myself today at 217 which is 14 lbs lost in 3 weeks. So I guess it's working for now. Obviously some of that weight is water weight but maybe you need to seriously rethink your strategy to weightless before judging others.
Also, my dad and I have both lost a lot of weight loggig the way I log, he was able I keep it off, I gained back because I was working 18 hour day while i was in college and binge eaton when ever I had a chance I eat. I also lost 2 inches on my waist since I started
Well you will do whatever you want and good luck with that
My strategy got me to maintenance and is keeping me here ..no yo-yo, accurate as possible data so I can understand how my body works and make educated decisions ...I'm a datageek so simply do not understand why others take the GIGO route
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No sweetheart I checked out your diary and thought what's the point0
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PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes0
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I don't understand what you are asking, then. Your logging isn't really logging at all - it's all guesswork, estimations, approximations, possibilities, and maybe a little magic. Then you come off as annoyed and defensive when an experienced member with established success nudges you about that.
So log it or don't. With the way you are handling it now, it really won't make a difference either way. Look - there are great tools available here if you are open to using them. But it sounds like you already believe you know it all. Maybe you don't mean to come off that way, but if you can't engage in a straightforward conversation that includes some gentle challenges, then what's the point of posting the question at all?
^This.
OP, if you're just looking for validation for what you wanted to do, it was unnecessary to post. As you said, you've lost weight before. You've taken the time to reiterate that point over and over again. If you feel that not logging food correctly and logging inflated exercise burns while eating most of those calories back is the way to get you to your goals again, who are we to argue? You're obviously not seeking real input.
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ProjectSYD wrote: »PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes
PS: this thread was a general question - the question being should you log physical activity out of the norm. Like a 3 hour hike through the woods, or a mix I laps and water sports. I didn't ask you to analyze my diary. Mostly because when I log food I log more than I eat (to be safe since MFP isn't 100% accurate and I also log my exercise much lower intensity than I actually do with less time). But you made assumptions and you sound like a complete idiot and an *kitten*.
Well one of us does0 -
ProjectSYD wrote: »PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes
PS: this thread was a general question - the question being should you log physical activity out of the norm. Like a 3 hour hike through the woods, or a mix I laps and water sports. I didn't ask you to analyze my diary. Mostly because when I log food I log more than I eat (to be safe since MFP isn't 100% accurate and I also log my exercise much lower intensity than I actually do with less time). But you made assumptions and you sound like a complete idiot and an *kitten*.
No don't log it...that easy.
If you didn't log the "cheat meal" then you don't log "a leisurely" hike in the woods.
I walk 8k a day without exercise and I don't log it...
As for Rabbit sounding like an *kitten* or an idiot..nope but you do now.
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ProjectSYD wrote: »Not even ahProjectSYD wrote: »PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes
PS: this thread was a general question - the question being should you log physical activity out of the norm. Like a 3 hour hike through the woods, or a mix I laps and water sports. I didn't ask you to analyze my diary. Mostly because when I log food I log more than I eat (to be safe since MFP isn't 100% accurate and I also log my exercise much lower intensity than I actually do with less time). But you made assumptions and you sound like a complete idiot and an *kitten*.
Well one of us does
Not even sure what that's supposed to mean. Why do you troll the forums with nothing helpful to say? Do you have anything better to do with your time?
Usually it's helpful to get a feel for a place before you start posting. If you'd done that, you'd see that Rabbit is one of the more knowledgeable posters around here.
Rabbit's first post to you was spot on.
If you're logging, be consistent. With everything.
If your aim isn't to be as accurate as possible, what's the point?
Your past success is not an indication that you fully understand everything there is to know about losing weight and keeping it off long term. Isn't that what you want to ultimately do?
Instead of narrowing your focus and trying to act like you know it all at your age, stick around and try to learn something from those of us who have been around the block a few times more than you have. We've got a lot more experience at this game than you do.
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ProjectSYD wrote: »PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes
PS: this thread was a general question - the question being should you log physical activity out of the norm. Like a 3 hour hike through the woods, or a mix I laps and water sports. I didn't ask you to analyze my diary. Mostly because when I log food I log more than I eat (to be safe since MFP isn't 100% accurate and I also log my exercise much lower intensity than I actually do with less time). But you made assumptions and you sound like a complete idiot and an *kitten*.
If you were logging accurately, then yes. Since you're not, don't bother.0 -
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ProjectSYD wrote: »YPeachyCarol wrote: »I don't understand what you are asking, then. Your logging isn't really logging at all - it's all guesswork, estimations, approximations, possibilities, and maybe a little magic. Then you come off as annoyed and defensive when an experienced member with established success nudges you about that.
So log it or don't. With the way you are handling it now, it really won't make a difference either way. Look - there are great tools available here if you are open to using them. But it sounds like you already believe you know it all. Maybe you don't mean to come off that way, but if you can't engage in a straightforward conversation that includes some gentle challenges, then what's the point of posting the question at all?
^This.
OP, if you're just looking for validation for what you wanted to do, it was unnecessary to post. As you said, you've lost weight before. You've taken the time to reiterate that point over and over again. If you feel that not logging food correctly and logging inflated exercise burns while eating most of those calories back is the way to get you to your goals again, who are we to argue? You're obviously not seeking real input.
Are you illiterate? Because your post obviously would suggest that you are.
Inflation makes it sound like I'm logging more exercise than I'm actually performing when I'm doing the opposite.
I LOG LESS MINUTES OF EXERCISE THAN I ACTUALLY PERFORM.
I LOG MORE FOOD THAN I ACTUALLY EAT.
Example: I run for 40 minutes on the elliptical at 16-18 mph.
I LOG 20 MINUTES AT 12 MPH.
I eat 21g of cheese.
I LOG 30g
The point of this thread was to start a discussion about logging activities out of the norm. I'm not looking for validitification - you amount many others on here (I'll refer to you as morons or idiots from now on, you probably aren't even real people but just trolls on the internet like reddit) went and looked at my diary and started analyzing it.
THAT WASNT THE POINT
If you are not going to log accurately why bother.
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ProjectSYD wrote: »Not even ahProjectSYD wrote: »PS there's a difference between data and anecdotes
PS: this thread was a general question - the question being should you log physical activity out of the norm. Like a 3 hour hike through the woods, or a mix I laps and water sports. I didn't ask you to analyze my diary. Mostly because when I log food I log more than I eat (to be safe since MFP isn't 100% accurate and I also log my exercise much lower intensity than I actually do with less time). But you made assumptions and you sound like a complete idiot and an *kitten*.
Well one of us does
Not even sure what that's supposed to mean. Why do you troll the forums with nothing helpful to say? Do you have anything better to do with your time?
rabbit is one of the most helpful people on here, and is FAR MORE patient than I normally am. You asked for advice. you got it. you don't like it fine, your weight loss will stall and then you'll be back posting and wondering why and someone will dig up this thread and go 'HERE'.
i swim every day and can GUARANTEE you you're NOT burning 800+ calories.
But do as you will. It's your weight and health on the line, not ours....0 -
ProjectSYD wrote: »YPeachyCarol wrote: »I don't understand what you are asking, then. Your logging isn't really logging at all - it's all guesswork, estimations, approximations, possibilities, and maybe a little magic. Then you come off as annoyed and defensive when an experienced member with established success nudges you about that.
So log it or don't. With the way you are handling it now, it really won't make a difference either way. Look - there are great tools available here if you are open to using them. But it sounds like you already believe you know it all. Maybe you don't mean to come off that way, but if you can't engage in a straightforward conversation that includes some gentle challenges, then what's the point of posting the question at all?
^This.
OP, if you're just looking for validation for what you wanted to do, it was unnecessary to post. As you said, you've lost weight before. You've taken the time to reiterate that point over and over again. If you feel that not logging food correctly and logging inflated exercise burns while eating most of those calories back is the way to get you to your goals again, who are we to argue? You're obviously not seeking real input.
Are you illiterate? Because your post obviously would suggest that you are.
Inflation makes it sound like I'm logging more exercise than I'm actually performing when I'm doing the opposite.
I LOG LESS MINUTES OF EXERCISE THAN I ACTUALLY PERFORM.
I LOG MORE FOOD THAN I ACTUALLY EAT.
Example: I run for 40 minutes on the elliptical at 16-18 mph.
I LOG 20 MINUTES AT 12 MPH.
I eat 21g of cheese.
I LOG 30g
The point of this thread was to start a discussion about logging activities out of the norm. I'm not looking for validitification - you amount many others on here (I'll refer to you as morons or idiots from now on, you probably aren't even real people but just trolls on the internet like reddit) went and looked at my diary and started analyzing it.
THAT WASNT THE POINT
No son, inflation irt exercise burns means crediting too many calories being burned from the activity when logging it. Stick around more and learn the site terminology. I am trying to teach you what you wanted to know.
As far as not logging or logging activity out of the norm, this has already been answered. You don't choose to log food consumption out of the norm (your buffet eating), your extra activity should not then be logged either. A bit of walking would certainly not cancel out a buffet binge, at any rate.
Water under the bridge, you don't seem to welcome any input.
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