Getting rid of fat upper arms?
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Oh, I also wanted to add that we weigh about the same and my arms are the same exact size as yours. And, if I strength train without eating right, they get even bigger. Just keep trying to eat right and do those push-ups!0
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I just keep occasionally using my weights while I watch television, trying to memorize some 5-minute kettlebells routine on youtube but so far no success, but at least I try, and do my own kettlebell routines all of about 15 minutes a day. I have an exerbike that the handles move as well as the pedals. Still, loose skin on my upper arms, but not NEARLY as bad as it was 27 pounds ago. Just keep losing the pounds and spend a few minutes a day with weights, and it will all be good.0
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Sorry for being such a jerk.0
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bcalvanese wrote: »OP,
Would you like to do an experiment?
use one arm to do muscular strength training (enough weight that you can only do 5 to 10 reps). do 3 sets of that.
use your other arm to do muscular endurance training (enough weight that you can only do 25 to 50 reps). do 3 sets of that.
do this every day, and if your strength training arm gets bigger, you can blame mister ACE Certified bla bla bla guy, and if your endurance arm gets toner, you can thank me...:)
The Army keeps it very simple and it works, and I have never seen a soldier with flabby arms (male or female) in the entire 6 years that I was in the Army.
Don't let a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo trip you up. Keep it simple, be consistant, and you will see results.
Anecdotes aren't evidence especially since in 6 years you've more than likely not met EVERY Army person recruited and currently serving (about 495,000 and that doesn't include reserves).
I'm sure OP will figure it out. Hoping that my 30+ years of experience in the field and as a profession, may sway them.
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bcalvanese wrote: »OP,
Would you like to do an experiment?
use one arm to do muscular strength training (enough weight that you can only do 5 to 10 reps). do 3 sets of that.
use your other arm to do muscular endurance training (enough weight that you can only do 25 to 50 reps). do 3 sets of that.
do this every day, and if your strength training arm gets bigger, you can blame mister ACE Certified bla bla bla guy, and if your endurance arm gets toner, you can thank me...:)
The Army keeps it very simple and it works, and I have never seen a soldier with flabby arms (male or female) in the entire 6 years that I was in the Army.
Don't let a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo trip you up. Keep it simple, be consistant, and you will see results.
Anecdotes aren't evidence especially since in 6 years you've more than likely not met EVERY Army person recruited and currently serving (about 495,000 and that doesn't include reserves).
I'm sure OP will figure it out. Hoping that my 30+ years of experience in the field and as a profession, may sway them.
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I thought you could work the abs, calfs, and heart muscles every day, or has that changed since the 80's too?
I posted that I was sorry for being a jerk. Why are you continuing to be one?
Now I remember why I started being one. I posted something that I was taught in the Army that I thought would be helpful to the OP, and you swooped right in and made me look like an idiot.
I get the feeling that you are way more concerned about showing other people how wrong they are than you are of helping people.
Also, for the record, anywhere I was stationed there was always a group of guys who went to the gym and lifted very heavy weights with very few reps, and they were all much bulkier than the other soldiers. So back then, what you are saying could have been a theory, and what I am saying may have been fact at that time. It was in the Army Fitness Manual back then, and it sure seemed that way to me back then.
And those guys seemed to have trouble with the PT test (which is an endurance test). They could do enough to pass, but their scores were lower than the average soldier. We used to tease them, calling them big slow targets, and if they were killed in battle, we would use them as bunkers.
Who know... in 20 years it may be something totally different, and we both be wrong.0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »OP,
Would you like to do an experiment?
use one arm to do muscular strength training (enough weight that you can only do 5 to 10 reps). do 3 sets of that.
use your other arm to do muscular endurance training (enough weight that you can only do 25 to 50 reps). do 3 sets of that.
do this every day, and if your strength training arm gets bigger, you can blame mister ACE Certified bla bla bla guy, and if your endurance arm gets toner, you can thank me...:)
The Army keeps it very simple and it works, and I have never seen a soldier with flabby arms (male or female) in the entire 6 years that I was in the Army.
Don't let a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo trip you up. Keep it simple, be consistant, and you will see results.
Anecdotes aren't evidence especially since in 6 years you've more than likely not met EVERY Army person recruited and currently serving (about 495,000 and that doesn't include reserves).
I'm sure OP will figure it out. Hoping that my 30+ years of experience in the field and as a profession, may sway them.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I thought you could work the abs, calfs, and heart muscles every day, or has that changed since the 80's too?
I posted that I was sorry for being a jerk. You weren't that much of a jerk, you were more just full of derp and completely wrong
Why are you continuing to be one?
He doesn't need me to defend him but @ninerbuff is seriously not being a jerk, he is being informative from a position of knowledge and experience and lots of time helping people on this site with relevant information.
Now I remember why I started being one. I posted something that I was taught in the Army that I thought would be helpful to the OP, and you swooped right in and made me look like an idiot.
That's perception .. he didn't, none of them did. They corrected your incorrect information.
I get the feeling that you are way more concerned about showing other people how wrong they are than you are of helping people.
You can't help people by giving them incorrect information. This thread isn't about you although you're trying to make it
Also, for the record, anywhere I was stationed there was always a group of guys who went to the gym and lifted very heavy weights with very few reps, and they were all much bulkier than the other soldiers. So back then, what you are saying could have been a theory, and what I am saying may have been fact at that time. It was in the Army Fitness Manual back then, and it sure seemed that way to me back then.
And those guys seemed to have trouble with the PT test (which is an endurance test). They could do enough to pass, but their scores were lower than the average soldier. We used to tease them, calling them big slow targets, and if they were killed in battle, we would use them as bunkers.
Who know... in 20 years it may be something totally different, and we both be wrong.
Good for you. You have experience of a bunch of bodybuilders who liked size over cardiac fitness, the two are not mutually exclusive. Times have moved on and fortunately our knowledge base has grown, keep up to speed with it .. cos it will no doubt continue to grow as long as people continue to discuss and research and promote knowledge above 'I just know this cos I do'0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »OP,
Would you like to do an experiment?
use one arm to do muscular strength training (enough weight that you can only do 5 to 10 reps). do 3 sets of that.
use your other arm to do muscular endurance training (enough weight that you can only do 25 to 50 reps). do 3 sets of that.
do this every day, and if your strength training arm gets bigger, you can blame mister ACE Certified bla bla bla guy, and if your endurance arm gets toner, you can thank me...:)
The Army keeps it very simple and it works, and I have never seen a soldier with flabby arms (male or female) in the entire 6 years that I was in the Army.
Don't let a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo trip you up. Keep it simple, be consistant, and you will see results.
Anecdotes aren't evidence especially since in 6 years you've more than likely not met EVERY Army person recruited and currently serving (about 495,000 and that doesn't include reserves).
I'm sure OP will figure it out. Hoping that my 30+ years of experience in the field and as a profession, may sway them.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I thought you could work the abs, calfs, and heart muscles every day, or has that changed since the 80's too?
I posted that I was sorry for being a jerk. Why are you continuing to be one?
Now I remember why I started being one. I posted something that I was taught in the Army that I thought would be helpful to the OP, and you swooped right in and made me look like an idiot.
I get the feeling that you are way more concerned about showing other people how wrong they are than you are of helping people.
Also, for the record, anywhere I was stationed there was always a group of guys who went to the gym and lifted very heavy weights with very few reps, and they were all much bulkier than the other soldiers. So back then, what you are saying could have been a theory, and what I am saying may have been fact at that time. It was in the Army Fitness Manual back then, and it sure seemed that way to me back then.
And those guys seemed to have trouble with the PT test (which is an endurance test). They could do enough to pass, but their scores were lower than the average soldier. We used to tease them, calling them big slow targets, and if they were killed in battle, we would use them as bunkers.
Who know... in 20 years it may be something totally different, and we both be wrong.
That's because they probably were doing little to no endurance training and training/eating to add mass. If you don't train for endurance.....you're going to suck at it.
FYI, the Army and their guide to fitness has changed immensely. I used to lift with a DI back in the day. Dude was huge. He warmed up on the incline at 280, but he still performed endurance training, and why......so he could smoke his PT Test.
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I'm currently 137lbs, 5'3" and a UK size 10 and my 12" upper arms are really out of proportion for my size. They're flabby and horrible and I never have them uncovered. They're the only area I haven't lost much weight from. I lost 4 stone and had hardly any change in the size of my upper arms.
I don't have any access to gym equipment so what can I do?
Here are some yoga poses: http://www.popsugar.com/fitness/Basic-Yoga-Poses-Tone-Arms-11368509#photo-11368509
If you are new to yoga or don't have much upper arm strength, holding for five breaths will be too long - just do what you can and build up to five breaths.
Also, the downward dog where her heels are on the ground? That's probably not going to happen. Just stretch your heels towards the ground and don't worry about them actually touching.
This thread inspired me to take my arm measurements and track them over time.
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Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.0 -
Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.
What kind of lifting have you been doing the 'whole time'? I'm interested to know what program has given you such poor results (a good routine should affect more than your arms).0 -
I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
Settle in...you're gonna like it here
PS we all did it :bigsmile:0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
Settle in...you're gonna like it here
PS we all did it :bigsmile:
that means we can not bash around on him anymore?......
ow dang!...
wanders off to her corner...heavenly dissapointed...waiting for the next...to come in.
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bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
Settle in...you're gonna like it here
PS we all did it :bigsmile:
that means we can not bash around on him anymore?......
ow dang!...
wanders off to her corner...heavenly dissapointed...waiting for the next...to come in.
Nope ...*sighs*. Dude seems switched on with no entrenched position
Spoilsport...imma gonna have to go back to the 1200 calorie guy0 -
Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.
What kind of lifting have you been doing the 'whole time'? I'm interested to know what program has given you such poor results (a good routine should affect more than your arms).
I've just been doing basic moves with heavy weights because I hate lifting, but that's not the point... the point is that there is still fat on my arms, even though they are the most muscular part of my body (with my legs). So unless OP gets down to 18% body fat or less (I'm 23%ish I think, but like I said, most of it is in my midsection), she might not lose all the fat on her arms.0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
Settle in...you're gonna like it here
PS we all did it :bigsmile:
that means we can not bash around on him anymore?......
ow dang!...
wanders off to her corner...heavenly dissapointed...waiting for the next...to come in.
Nope ...*sighs*. Dude seems switched on with no entrenched position
Spoilsport...imma gonna have to go back to the 1200 calorie guy
Don't you dare dragging me into bad things lady, i am trouble enough...to myself and others around me.
I can hardly handle it!
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Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.
What kind of lifting have you been doing the 'whole time'? I'm interested to know what program has given you such poor results (a good routine should affect more than your arms).
I've just been doing basic moves with heavy weights because I hate lifting, but that's not the point... the point is that there is still fat on my arms, even though they are the most muscular part of my body (with my legs). So unless OP gets down to 18% body fat or less (I'm 23%ish I think, but like I said, most of it is in my midsection), she might not lose all the fat on her arms.
So you've been doing made up routines and/or exercise videos at home? It's hard to tell because you didn't answer my question about which program you have been using with such poor results. But unless you have actually been doing a real progressive lifting routine from the start I don't think you can comment to OP on the effectiveness of 'lifting the whole time'.0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.
What kind of lifting have you been doing the 'whole time'? I'm interested to know what program has given you such poor results (a good routine should affect more than your arms).
I've just been doing basic moves with heavy weights because I hate lifting, but that's not the point... the point is that there is still fat on my arms, even though they are the most muscular part of my body (with my legs). So unless OP gets down to 18% body fat or less (I'm 23%ish I think, but like I said, most of it is in my midsection), she might not lose all the fat on her arms.
So you've been doing made up routines and/or exercise videos at home? It's hard to tell because you didn't answer my question about which program you have been using with such poor results. But unless you have actually been doing a real progressive lifting routine from the start I don't think you can comment to OP on the effectiveness of 'lifting the whole time'.
Still not the point. I got great results on my arms. Still got loose skin and leftover fat in my stretched marks. Ie, exercise/lifting isn't magic.
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bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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Thank you man.
You were the one I was being a jerk to the most, and it takes a big man to forgive.
Thank you for schooling me.0 -
Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »Lifting isn't magic. If your genetics are like mine, you might not lose it all. I carry most of my leftover fat in my midsection, and my arms look great, but I still have some bat wings from loose skin (and stretched marks). There's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.. and I've been lifting the whole time and my arms are as muscular as I want them to get.
Sorry but someone had to say it.
What kind of lifting have you been doing the 'whole time'? I'm interested to know what program has given you such poor results (a good routine should affect more than your arms).
I've just been doing basic moves with heavy weights because I hate lifting, but that's not the point... the point is that there is still fat on my arms, even though they are the most muscular part of my body (with my legs). So unless OP gets down to 18% body fat or less (I'm 23%ish I think, but like I said, most of it is in my midsection), she might not lose all the fat on her arms.
So you've been doing made up routines and/or exercise videos at home? It's hard to tell because you didn't answer my question about which program you have been using with such poor results. But unless you have actually been doing a real progressive lifting routine from the start I don't think you can comment to OP on the effectiveness of 'lifting the whole time'.
Still not the point. I got great results on my arms. Still got loose skin and leftover fat in my stretched marks. Ie, exercise/lifting isn't magic.
OK. Clearly you are never going to answer thequestion because 'it's not the point'. But it is the point. If you're not doing an actual lifting routine (which clearly you are not, despite saying you have been doing it 'the whole time') then you shouldn't really be commenting on whether lifting is effective or not in a given situation. Enjoy whatever it is you're doing.0 -
OP, I'm 5'4" and around 130. I had 12.5 inch arms as well and definitely did not like them. With a deficit/fat loss I got them down to 11 inches. And with weight training and all the LBM I saved...I have no reason to want them any smaller. Keep at it. Lift things.0
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bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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So what did your physics professor say burned more calories? Running or walking a mile? I'd really like to know, as it has always been my contention (from a high school gym teacher many, many years ago) that a mile is a mile whether you walk slow, walk fast, jog, or run. Thanks!0 -
bcalvanese wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »OP,
Would you like to do an experiment?
use one arm to do muscular strength training (enough weight that you can only do 5 to 10 reps). do 3 sets of that.
use your other arm to do muscular endurance training (enough weight that you can only do 25 to 50 reps). do 3 sets of that.
do this every day, and if your strength training arm gets bigger, you can blame mister ACE Certified bla bla bla guy, and if your endurance arm gets toner, you can thank me...:)
The Army keeps it very simple and it works, and I have never seen a soldier with flabby arms (male or female) in the entire 6 years that I was in the Army.
Don't let a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo trip you up. Keep it simple, be consistant, and you will see results.
Anecdotes aren't evidence especially since in 6 years you've more than likely not met EVERY Army person recruited and currently serving (about 495,000 and that doesn't include reserves).
I'm sure OP will figure it out. Hoping that my 30+ years of experience in the field and as a profession, may sway them.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Also, for the record, anywhere I was stationed there was always a group of guys who went to the gym and lifted very heavy weights with very few reps, and they were all much bulkier than the other soldiers. So back then, what you are saying could have been a theory, and what I am saying may have been fact at that time. It was in the Army Fitness Manual back then, and it sure seemed that way to me back then.
And those guys seemed to have trouble with the PT test (which is an endurance test). They could do enough to pass, but their scores were lower than the average soldier. We used to tease them, calling them big slow targets, and if they were killed in battle, we would use them as bunkers.
Who know... in 20 years it may be something totally different, and we both be wrong.
People have different goals. Not everyone who trains for strength, lifting heavy weight at low reps, is into aesthetics. They eat, and train to get stronger. Not to say that power lifters can't be lean. Others who are working toward aesthetics, lifting in the hypertrophy range and going through bulk and cut cycles, will look more "cut" and lean compared to someone who lifts purely for strength.
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atypicalsmith wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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So what did your physics professor say burned more calories? Running or walking a mile? I'd really like to know, as it has always been my contention (from a high school gym teacher many, many years ago) that a mile is a mile whether you walk slow, walk fast, jog, or run. Thanks!
i also want to know this!
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I'm in the same boat. When I do any kind of lifting or body weight exercises they get bigger. The only time I had major losses was when I did low carb and only walked. I like working out and I gain muscle like no other. Its genetic and I'm a girl. My little niece was born looking like a gymnast. We have defined delts and large biceps. Some women do have major muscle size growth. When I back off all upper body work and eat low carb with a calorie deficit my arms get smaller.0
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bcalvanese wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Thank you man.
You were the one I was being a jerk to the most, and it takes a big man to forgive.
Thank you for schooling me.
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atypicalsmith wrote: »bcalvanese wrote: »I would like to upologise to everyone for being a jerk.
Things have changed since I was in the Army, and instead of admitting I was wrong, I just kept on being a jerk to people.
I only hope people can forgive me.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So what did your physics professor say burned more calories? Running or walking a mile? I'd really like to know, as it has always been my contention (from a high school gym teacher many, many years ago) that a mile is a mile whether you walk slow, walk fast, jog, or run. Thanks!
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