Question on Protein whey vs casein
Michael190lbs
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If It doesn't matter how many times a day you eat as long as you meet your needs does switching from whey protein to Casein protein matter? I like the way triple chocolate Casein protein tastes so much better than whey chocolate but the marketing hype on whey protein is so overwhelming just looking for advice.
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I don't understand why people don't Google or even search the forums before posting questions that could easily be answered other ways but I'll just leave this here for you. It all depends on what you're looking to gain fro your powder.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casein_vs_whey_protein.htm0 -
Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.0
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No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Two different types of protein. Casein is milk-based, soy is plant-based.
Whey vs. Casein - whey is fast-digesting, while casein assimilates more slowly over time. Some people recommend taking a blend of whey and casein post-workout. Otherwise, casein is recommended as a late-night snack for overnight digestion.0 -
Thank you. I prefer a forum to ask question that might arise from an answer I receive here. If everyone used Google it would be the end of all forum questions and how social would that be?madhatter2013 wrote: »I don't understand why people don't Google or even search the forums before posting questions that could easily be answered other ways but I'll just leave this here for you. It all depends on what you're looking to gain fro your powder.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casein_vs_whey_protein.htm
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No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
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Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.0 -
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
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Does not matter. Most important factor is compliance and consistency...Michael190lbs wrote: »If It doesn't matter how many times a day you eat as long as you meet your needs does switching from whey protein to Casein protein matter? I like the way triple chocolate Casein protein tastes so much better than whey chocolate but the marketing hype on whey protein is so overwhelming just looking for advice.
Thank you.
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Michael190lbs wrote: »
Thank you. I prefer a forum to ask question that might arise from an answer I receive here. If everyone used Google it would be the end of all forum questions and how social would that be?madhatter2013 wrote: »I don't understand why people don't Google or even search the forums before posting questions that could easily be answered other ways but I'll just leave this here for you. It all depends on what you're looking to gain fro your powder.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casein_vs_whey_protein.htm
I think you're confusing "social interaction" with "research". There is a difference. In the social forum, you're hoping to get different answers from different people that think they know all about the topic your asking about when, in fact, they probably don't. Your own research will get you the answers you seek without all the opinions of some random strangers whom "it" may or may not have worked for.0 -
I just got to thinking. If there are benefits to both whey and casein, why not just drink a glass of milk?0
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Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day..
I also crave chocolate and the shake has to be better than a snickers bar right?
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Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day..
I also crave chocolate and the shake has to be better than a snickers bar right?
It's not hurting you at all. If you prefer more protein over carbs, so be it.... it doesn't matter.
Of course some of the "clean" eater will say the shake is better, but, if you've met your protein goal already.... TAKE THE SNICKERS!!!
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madhatter2013 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »
Thank you. I prefer a forum to ask question that might arise from an answer I receive here. If everyone used Google it would be the end of all forum questions and how social would that be?madhatter2013 wrote: »I don't understand why people don't Google or even search the forums before posting questions that could easily be answered other ways but I'll just leave this here for you. It all depends on what you're looking to gain fro your powder.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casein_vs_whey_protein.htm
I think you're confusing "social interaction" with "research". There is a difference. In the social forum, you're hoping to get different answers from different people that think they know all about the topic your asking about when, in fact, they probably don't. Your own research will get you the answers you seek without all the opinions of some random strangers whom "it" may or may not have worked for.
I agree with you 100% but "google" is full of journalists writing articles about nutrition when in fact they know nothing about nutrition. i typically come here because there are some VERY well informed members who take their time to help others..
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Depends. If you have already hit your protein requirement and the snickers does not put you over on calories then "better" is relevant...Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day..
I also crave chocolate and the shake has to be better than a snickers bar right?
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martyqueen52 wrote: »
It's not hurting you at all. If you prefer more protein over carbs, so be it.... it doesn't matter.
Of course some of the "clean" eater will say the shake is better, but, if you've met your protein goal already.... TAKE THE SNICKERS!!!
I see what you did there..... and I like it!!!
No OP it's not hurting you at all
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Michael190lbs wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »
Thank you. I prefer a forum to ask question that might arise from an answer I receive here. If everyone used Google it would be the end of all forum questions and how social would that be?madhatter2013 wrote: »I don't understand why people don't Google or even search the forums before posting questions that could easily be answered other ways but I'll just leave this here for you. It all depends on what you're looking to gain fro your powder.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/casein_vs_whey_protein.htm
I think you're confusing "social interaction" with "research". There is a difference. In the social forum, you're hoping to get different answers from different people that think they know all about the topic your asking about when, in fact, they probably don't. Your own research will get you the answers you seek without all the opinions of some random strangers whom "it" may or may not have worked for.
I agree with you 100% but "google" is full of journalists writing articles about nutrition when in fact they know nothing about nutrition. i typically come here because there are some VERY well informed members who take their time to help others..
Well, in that case, I prefer Whey, chocolate and peanut butter in milk. I just like the taste and drink it during my workout.0 -
Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
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+1Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
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Meh I can afford it
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Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
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I can agree with the $$ comment but considering my Jeep gets 8 mpg its not the only bad financial choice I have made.. I do however enjoy my life and happiness has a $$ attached to it in some way or another..0
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Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
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martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.0 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.0 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.0 -
Ding Ding, round over. Back to your corners please.0
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martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
Six star elite Protein $19.97 for 2.2 lbs
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Six star elite Protein $19.97 for 2.2 lbs
C4 pre workout $20 a month
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madhatter2013 wrote: »Ding Ding, round over. Back to your corners please.
awwwww I'd just got the popcorn ready
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