Question on Protein whey vs casein
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Ironmaiden4life wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »Ding Ding, round over. Back to your corners please.
awwwww I'd just got the popcorn ready
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Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.0 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
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martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.-3 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
It's nice to have $30 be inconsequential to you. Please consider it isn't so for everyone, and some people derive mental pleasure from being frugal no matter how much they have.0 -
If he does not need the extra protein then he might as well just flush the 30 bucks down the toilet then...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
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Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
Until your doctor looks at you Says "how do you have muscles, facial hair, and a lot of breast tissue. Have you ever consider you might have low T?" At my age of 25. That not something I want to hear.
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Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
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martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
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martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
You two are funny. Please carry on.0 -
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
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This thread is hilarious.0
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madhatter2013 wrote: »
mine gets barely 10, and i thought that was bad. What size tires, 37"? Jku, jk, tj, or none of the above?0 -
My dad is in end-stage COPD and is on medically prescribed steroids. Now THAT will affect hormone levels. Dad's not very happy about growing breasts, but the doctor just shrugged.
Breathing. Priorities.0 -
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Except that's not low T, that's high estrogen, which phytoestrogen won't do - well at least breast tissue. If you had low T, you would, in fact, grow facial hair slower. Honestly, putting someone on supranormal levels of testosterone will tend to cause gynocomastia if you really want to worry.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
Until your doctor looks at you Says "how do you have muscles, facial hair, and a lot of breast tissue. Have you ever consider you might have low T?" At my age of 25. That not something I want to hear.
Again, low T doesn't mean all that people think it does. There are variations in the population, and you're not liable to see differences for anyone within one standard deviation of the mean.0 -
Except that's not low T, that's high estrogen, which phytoestrogen won't do - well at least breast tissue. If you had low T, you would, in fact, grow facial hair slower. Honestly, putting someone on supranormal levels of testosterone will tend to cause gynocomastia if you really want to worry.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
Until your doctor looks at you Says "how do you have muscles, facial hair, and a lot of breast tissue. Have you ever consider you might have low T?" At my age of 25. That not something I want to hear.
Again, low T doesn't mean all that people think it does. There are variations in the population, and you're not liable to see differences for anyone within one standard deviation of the mean.
IDK what wrong with me. I found nothing but I am prepare to go to single digit body fat% hopefully they turn to pec by then. I will be a very angry person if that doesn't happen then.
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Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
Except that's not low T, that's high estrogen, which phytoestrogen won't do - well at least breast tissue. If you had low T, you would, in fact, grow facial hair slower. Honestly, putting someone on supranormal levels of testosterone will tend to cause gynocomastia if you really want to worry.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
Until your doctor looks at you Says "how do you have muscles, facial hair, and a lot of breast tissue. Have you ever consider you might have low T?" At my age of 25. That not something I want to hear.
Again, low T doesn't mean all that people think it does. There are variations in the population, and you're not liable to see differences for anyone within one standard deviation of the mean.
IDK what wrong with me. I found nothing but I am prepare to go to single digit body fat% hopefully they turn to pec by then. I will be a very angry person if that doesn't happen then.
Are you saying you have actual gynocomastia diagnosis from a doctor? You can't get rid of legitimate gynocomastia simply by losing weight - real gynocomastia is actual mammary / breast tissue, not just fat. It will be hard compared to just having fat in the area. Losing fat won't remove it, in generally, surgery is the only legal option for removing it.0 -
See now you can do $130...martyqueen52 wrote: »
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.
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Michael190lbs wrote: »LJ- TJ 2005 35" MTR- The thing is a tank
Ah hahaha, you drive a decepticon. That's awesome!!!0 -
martyqueen52 wrote: »
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.
3 years and you've only got $100 in there? I'd look into a 529 account.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
Except that's not low T, that's high estrogen, which phytoestrogen won't do - well at least breast tissue. If you had low T, you would, in fact, grow facial hair slower. Honestly, putting someone on supranormal levels of testosterone will tend to cause gynocomastia if you really want to worry.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Not exactly outdated. Soy, like a lot of vegetables, has phytoestrogen, that isn't the same as estrogen. To date, the only evidence I've ever seen of phytoestrogen mattering is a loose claim that some breast cancer might be able to use phytoestrogen in place of estrogen.yopeeps025 wrote: »
Casein comes from milk.yopeeps025 wrote: »Casein protein usually has lots of soy protein in it I think. Which has a lot of estrogen.
Soy does not have estrogen.
Got It. I did say I think. I guess I still got some outdated things I still believe in nutrition.
I tend to find people are too obsessed with their testosterone and estrogen levels or perception of what it is. Neither really matters as much as people think it does.
Until your doctor looks at you Says "how do you have muscles, facial hair, and a lot of breast tissue. Have you ever consider you might have low T?" At my age of 25. That not something I want to hear.
Again, low T doesn't mean all that people think it does. There are variations in the population, and you're not liable to see differences for anyone within one standard deviation of the mean.
IDK what wrong with me. I found nothing but I am prepare to go to single digit body fat% hopefully they turn to pec by then. I will be a very angry person if that doesn't happen then.
Are you saying you have actual gynocomastia diagnosis from a doctor? You can't get rid of legitimate gynocomastia simply by losing weight - real gynocomastia is actual mammary / breast tissue, not just fat. It will be hard compared to just having fat in the area. Losing fat won't remove it, in generally, surgery is the only legal option for removing it.
That the thing I wasn't diagnosis this by any doctor. They claimed it was always from just being overweight. I blaming overweight while going through puberty. I have no clue but I think losing weight should solve this issue.
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madhatter2013 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.
3 years and you've only got $100 in there? I'd look into a 529 account.
Base on the quotes, you didn't read this comment correctly.
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I'm not saving anything for my kids their lucky I gave them life!! I work with some kids whose parents were LOADED and spoiled them rotten- their a waste of space as far as work, ethics, motivation goes.. My kids will work hard like I had to and learn from their own choices with advice from a loving father.. That being said My X-wife is a triple board certified doctor who makes lots of money so who knows how they will turn out?0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.
3 years and you've only got $100 in there? I'd look into a 529 account.
Base on the quotes, you didn't read this comment correctly.
You're probably right. $100 a month would make more sense.
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madhatter2013 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »madhatter2013 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »
Put 30 bucks a month is an account for your daughter instead of protein powder...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
Because protein is the most expensive macronutrient.
You're right.... $30.00 is soooooo expensive, considering it lasts 25-30 days.
Gas tank fill up is more than that and lasts hell of a lot less.
Let's compare grocery bills... and our dicks while we're at it.
I have you beat... with a wife and daughter, believe me.... mine is more. I'm average length but more girth than a log splitter casing mang.
Another?
I put 100 in already. Started doing it 3 years ago when my wife and I first started trying for a daughter.
3 years and you've only got $100 in there? I'd look into a 529 account.
Base on the quotes, you didn't read this comment correctly.
You're probably right. $100 a month would make more sense.
Sounds a little better than how some poster say it. Usually it said like "reading comprehension much".0 -
If he does not need the extra protein then he might as well just flush the 30 bucks down the toilet then...martyqueen52 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »No, it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things. Protein powder, if using, is typically going to equal 10% or less of your total calorie goal, which is insignificant. You shouldn't be relying on protein powder to hit your daily protein goal anyway... That's what real food is for.
A suggestion: instead of buying two tubs of expensive protein powder, and cycling between them, just buy a blend. Blends are superior. They also cost less on average and taste quite good.
I do 40 grams of protein a ($20 2.2lb jug six star casein) a day and it equals about 20% of my protein intake. 6'1, 189lbs 46 years old. diet 180-200 grams protein 80-100 grams fat, 100-125 carbs.
You're overeating protein. For your weight and activity level (I assume you lift) 0.8 g/protein per 1 lb. bodyweight (or 151 grams) is the most that is being utilized any given day.
I understand I eat more protein than my body requires but is it hurting me? I like Tuna, steak, chicken and some days I will be at 150 grams and others 200 grams so I figured over the course of the week I average 180 grams per day.
It's hurting your wallet.
How is it hurting his wallet?
Do you think people only buy their meat from the store? lol.....
If he was an avid hunter and fisherman, then I doubt he would need to use protein powder every single day.
Still doesn't explain how it's hurting his wallet. A tub is what... $30 on Amazon. That's chump change. If you can't afford 30, then you need another job, or a new one.
It's not just protein, it's a source of calories. If he enjoys how he's eating and feels as good or better as if he were eaten the same calories and more fat or carbs, why should anyone care?
I don't think I need more than about 95 grams of protein/day, even at a generous estimate, but I routinely do eat more and have my goal set for more, because it reflects the breakdown of fat/carbs/protein I tend to enjoy in my meals. I just know not to worry if I eat less. I also sometimes add protein powder to my oatmeal at breakfast, since that makes breakfast more filling for me (as filling as when I have eggs), and I find a Quest bar on occasion a convenient and filling snack.
Some people also think it's worthwhile to have protein around a workout. I'm not sold on that being that important if you eat regular meals anyway, but it seems like the evidence is inconclusive and there's some indication that it might be more helpful if older, so if someone wants to do that, what's the harm? I wouldn't tell anyone they must do it, but if it works for them, what difference does it make if they could eat more cheaply. Presumably most of us could eat more cheaply--I'd eat a lot more rice and beans and less fish if I needed to cut budget (as well as make many other changes).0 -
He did say that he would choose the protein shake over the snickers bar because the protein shake was better right? Of course I think most of us agree that this is not always the case. So just to make sure he is not eating the protein powders because he thinks he has to as apposed to wants to.lemurcat12 wrote: »It's not just protein, it's a source of calories. If he enjoys how he's eating and feels as good or better as if he were eaten the same calories and more fat or carbs, why should anyone care?
That example aside, I agree with you lemurcat12. If he's happy doing what he is doing and getting results no one should care...0
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