"Jelly fat" vs "Solid fat" Easier to lose?
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Well, this is a humorous thread, but I think I get what you're asking. I've lost 30 lbs (several times) and I'm now over 50, so what I have left is the jigglier type of fat as opposed to the more dense fat I used to have more of. I think it takes similar effort to lose either. It may require more toning to finish losing the jiggly stuff.
require more toning?
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Based on this and your other posts, OP:
Ditch this "doctor".0 -
Dr Dre is not a qualified medical physician. He is a doctor of rap.0
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How about intermuscular fat vs. Intramuscluar fat?
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"Fat is Fat" is an incorrect statement.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/the-truth-about-fat
That being said, you can not focus your loss at one fat over another. How your fat is distributed is a matter of genetics as is the manner in which you skin does or does not rebound.
These are like "rich" man's problems. Don't worry about problems you may have after loosing significant fat weight, becoming a lot healthier, and extending your life expectancy.
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OP it has been a boring day at work today...you have kept me entertained that's for sure0
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"Fat is Fat" is an incorrect statement.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/the-truth-about-fat
That being said, you can not focus your loss at one fat over another. How your fat is distributed is a matter of genetics as is the manner in which you skin does or does not rebound.
These are like "rich" man's problems. Don't worry about problems you may have after loosing significant fat weight, becoming a lot healthier, and extending your life expectancy.
Oh brown fat has made its way into the thread.
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I guess he would say that it's "phat" tooslideaway1 wrote: »Dr Dre is not a qualified medical physician. He is a doctor of rap.
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Brown fat is still fat though right? And in terms of weight loss the type of fat you think you want to lose is irrelevant, your body will do what it wants to do.0
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VintageFeline wrote: »Brown fat is still fat though right? And in terms of weight loss the type of fat you think you want to lose is irrelevant, your body will do what it wants to do.
You should research brown fat. It's different than what you think it is.
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This is just my personal opinion from experience working in the medical field with many doctors, and having many good friends as physicians: They don't learn much of anything about nutrition and weight loss in medical school.
My advice would be to not go to a general doctor to talk about weight loss, or nutrition. Look for a clinic or a specific practitioner who has spend years studying weight loss / nutrition if you need professional advice and help beyond what MFP can off you.0 -
I guess he would say that it's "phat" tooslideaway1 wrote: »Dr Dre is not a qualified medical physician. He is a doctor of rap.
He's gonna drop the hottest mixtape of 2015
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lesliezimmer wrote: »This is just my personal opinion from experience working in the medical field with many doctors, and having many good friends as physicians: They don't learn much of anything about nutrition and weight loss in medical school.
Your personal opinion is actually quite factual. In terms of a general practioner's scope of education, you are speaking the truth.0 -
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I read the link, I can see how it functions differently, potentially, but in terms of weight loss currently it's not worth discussing, IMO. The OP has a significant amount to lose, getting into the semantics of "types" of fat and new theories on what brown fat could do isn't really helpful.0
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Are you sure this "doctor" is an actual doctor?0
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Chief_Rocka wrote: »I need to tone my fat. Advice?
Eat clean! No pizza, no beer and for gods sake, no ice cream!!!! And be careful, you don't wanna get supa bulky!0 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »Chief_Rocka wrote: »I need to tone my fat. Advice?
Eat clean! No pizza, no beer and for gods sake, no ice cream!!!! And be careful, you don't wanna get supa bulky!
Solid advice.
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farfromthetree wrote: »OP it has been a boring day at work today...you have kept me entertained that's for sure
To be honest, I've also kept myself entertained lol!!! Lol!! I have been so tickled......while learning. @farfromthetree0 -
Fat cells changing in size it what is causing once firm fat to become jelly like fat. So, you do not gain or lose fat cells, they only expand or shrink (unless you are a fan of lipo, then you can lose fat cells.) When your fat cells are expanded (i.e. you eat like crap, your body stores fat, and gain weight) they are being pushed into smaller spaces which causes a more "firm-like" fat and your skin to...expand. Think...clown car with 10 skinny clowns, compared to the same clown car with 10 fat clowns. There isn't enough room.
When you start exercising and eating healthy at a deficit, you body starts to use it's stored fat, hence the cells start to shrink leaving some extra room between fat cells...hence jelly like fat. As you comtinue and exercise and lift, your skin will hopefully tighten, your muscles will start to build and everything will get firm again, but without the help of expanded fat cells.
This is my take on it. Not a doc (Dre or otherwise) I too noticed the more I lose the gigglier I get, but I keep lifting and and tightening and praying it will go away 0 -
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »
I guess he would say that it's "phat" tooslideaway1 wrote: »Dr Dre is not a qualified medical physician. He is a doctor of rap.
He's gonna drop the hottest mixtape of 2015
the single off that is hot = Suga Killz0 -
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »
I guess he would say that it's "phat" tooslideaway1 wrote: »Dr Dre is not a qualified medical physician. He is a doctor of rap.
He's gonna drop the hottest mixtape of 2015
the single off that is hot = Suga Killz
2nd best hit = detoxify b4 cus u about 2 die
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »wat
Fat is fat. That's all there is.
That's sort of like saying "muscle is muscle". The doctor actually seems to know his stuff! The body tends to burn polyunsaturated fat before it burns saturated fat¹, and saturated is a more solid type of fat. There's a mix of both types in subcutaneous fat, and the ratio can vary from person to person, and in different parts of the body². I've heard that Lyle McDonald explains this in the book "The Stubborn Bodyfat Solution", but i haven't read it.
OP, make sure to exercise several times a week, because there's evidence it can burn more subcutaneous fat than a calorie deficit without regular exercise³.
And of course do strength training to minimize the loss of muscle that can happen with weight loss. It's best to follow a pro-designed program, instead of your own.
References:
1. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1218508/pdf/9210416.pdf
2. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/50/2/288.full.pdf
3. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/94320850 -
tiffanyslimdown wrote: »farfromthetree wrote: »OP it has been a boring day at work today...you have kept me entertained that's for sure
To be honest, I've also kept myself entertained lol!!! Lol!! I have been so tickled......while learning. @farfromthetree
Jelly fat comes from eating soft foods like brie cheese and solid fat comes from eating hard foods like cheddar cheese. If you can get 100% of your fats from soft foods then they will just fall right out your bottom.
I know this because I am a doctor.
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Cherimoose wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »wat
Fat is fat. That's all there is.
That's sort of like saying "muscle is muscle". The doctor actually seems to know his stuff! The body tends to burn polyunsaturated fat before it burns saturated fat¹, and saturated is a more solid type of fat. There's a mix of both types in subcutaneous fat, and the ratio can vary from person to person, and in different parts of the body². I've heard that Lyle McDonald explains this in the book "The Stubborn Bodyfat Solution", but i haven't read it.
OP, make sure to exercise several times a week, because there's evidence it can burn more subcutaneous fat than a calorie deficit without regular exercise³.
And of course do strength training to minimize the loss of muscle that can happen with weight loss. It's best to follow a pro-designed program, instead of your own.
References:
1. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1218508/pdf/9210416.pdf
2. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/50/2/288.full.pdf
3. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9432085
Thank you.0
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