Good Carb ideas?

ahayes7768
ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
edited November 21 in Food and Nutrition
I have always had a problem getting my carbs as I don't like anything that has them in it
Rice
Pasta
Bread
I will go out of my way to avoid them lol I replace my bread with lettuce and will wrap a sandwhich / piece of chicken whatever in lettuce before even thinking about bread.
Anyway I've given in on the rice, although I don't like it I will try to eat a little brown rice everyday, my question is, any recommendations for HEALTHY carbs onlt that I may enjoy a bit more.
Thanks!
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  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...
  • ahayes7768
    ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    Nope.
    A bit more focus on PROTEIN is usually what's recommended for folks trying to build muscle.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    You need to eat in a calorie surplus and progressive resistance training for muscle development. Many people find it easier (and cheaper) to add carbs. In addition, carbs can provide more energy during a bulk.

    That said, there are no "bad" carbs (unless they put you way over your calorie goal). Heck, just adding a serving of gelato to your maintenance calories would be right around 200-250 calories, which is about what you need for a moderate surplus.

    No reason to force yourself to eat something you don't like just because someone labeled it "healthy". Eat a majority of nutrient dense food, but feel free to add in some calorie dense treats, especially if it helps you hit your goals.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    Nope.
    A bit more focus on PROTEIN is usually what's recommended for folks trying to build muscle.

    Acutally, protein intake is more important when eating at a deficit than eating at a surplus. OP is right that people typically recommend "adequate" protein, and adding in more carbs.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Try carby vegetables. This could be yams, potatoes, winter squash, or corn. There are tons of options.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    Nope.
    A bit more focus on PROTEIN is usually what's recommended for folks trying to build muscle.

    Acutally, protein intake is more important when eating at a deficit than eating at a surplus. OP is right that people typically recommend "adequate" protein, and adding in more carbs.
    To build muscle?
    I guess most important, yes a surplus.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Try carby vegetables. This could be yams, potatoes, winter squash, or corn. There are tons of options.

    Great suggestion. There are lots of great high carb vegetables. Lots of the root vegetables. Legumes are good sources of carbs as well.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    when I did my bulk I ate a ton of potatoes and sweet potatoes...like 2 or 3 per day...and pasta with a good bolognese.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    Nope.
    A bit more focus on PROTEIN is usually what's recommended for folks trying to build muscle.

    Acutally, protein intake is more important when eating at a deficit than eating at a surplus. OP is right that people typically recommend "adequate" protein, and adding in more carbs.
    To build muscle?
    I guess most important, yes a surplus.

    protein for maintaining muscle mass
    carbs for muscle building due to insulin spike produced.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    when I did my bulk I ate a ton of potatoes and sweet potatoes...like 2 or 3 per day...and pasta with a good bolognese.

    mmmm bolognese.

    Is the OP bulking? I must have missed that.

    A question, wolfman (since you're one of the most knowledgeable guys on here): why carbs and not fats for a bulk? I've never *tried* to gain weight. Going on the pill was the easiest way for me to bulk lol.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    when I did my bulk I ate a ton of potatoes and sweet potatoes...like 2 or 3 per day...and pasta with a good bolognese.

    cosign
  • ahayes7768
    ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Try carby vegetables. This could be yams, potatoes, winter squash, or corn. There are tons of options.

    Potatoes! Yes love it! Corn as well!
    Thanks!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    OP - if you want to truly bulk, I would suggest starting a thread in the "gaining forum" there is a little more to it then just carbs.

    Do you not like carbs because of the taste of some of the things you listed, or do you not like them because someone told you they are "bad"..??
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    oh and there is no such thing as good or bad carbs, there are just carbs. eat them, or not, the choice is yours...
  • tspencer824
    tspencer824 Posts: 23 Member
    You don't need that many carbs, so I just suggest that you don't really eat them except in veggie and fruit form. If you want, only eat complex carbs that take more energy for your body to use them and then they won't convert to unnecessary fat.
    Steel cut oats
    Sweet potato
    Brown rice (I am a cheater with this and get the wild/brown mix)

    Those are all the carbs I eat except on Refeed day... which is Sunday after my bikini competition, woo hoo!
  • ahayes7768
    ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
    Well I'm deff doing it wrong as I have no idea what that means, I'm in school and have part time job can't afford a personal trainer so try to educate myself online about it. Sadly so much of it is wrong.
    However I'm 5'2 weigh 125 and still have a little tummy that I want to be a 6 pack in a few months lol so I'm gonna keep trying
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    OP - I would suggest reading the below stickys...you may not want to bulk, but you could give recomp a shot. That is, if you truly want to gain some muscle:

    Recomposition:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/33125652#Comment_33125652

    Bulking:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10049766/bulking-a-complete-guide-for-beginners
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    edited July 2015
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
    Well I'm deff doing it wrong as I have no idea what that means, I'm in school and have part time job can't afford a personal trainer so try to educate myself online about it. Sadly so much of it is wrong.
    However I'm 5'2 weigh 125 and still have a little tummy that I want to be a 6 pack in a few months lol so I'm gonna keep trying
    Give this a read:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10049766/bulking-a-complete-guide-for-beginners/p1

    And this:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach/p1

    ETA: If you're happy with your current weight, this could also help:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10177803/recomposition-maintaining-weight-while-losing-fat
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    You don't need that many carbs, so I just suggest that you don't really eat them except in veggie and fruit form. If you want, only eat complex carbs that take more energy for your body to use them and then they won't convert to unnecessary fat.
    Steel cut oats
    Sweet potato
    Brown rice (I am a cheater with this and get the wild/brown mix)

    Those are all the carbs I eat except on Refeed day... which is Sunday after my bikini competition, woo hoo!

    so much broscience....
  • ahayes7768
    ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Try carby vegetables. This could be yams, potatoes, winter squash, or corn. There are tons of options.

    Great suggestion. There are lots of great high carb vegetables. Lots of the root vegetables. Legumes are good sources of carbs as well.

    Yes I never thought of that. I'm really into leafy veggies like lettuce, broccli cauliflower etc, sure I couls switch it up! Thank you!
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    OP - I would suggest reading the below stickys...you may not want to bulk, but you could give recomp a shot. That is, if you truly want to gain some muscle:

    Recomposition:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/33125652#Comment_33125652

    Bulking:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10049766/bulking-a-complete-guide-for-beginners

    Doh, posted at the same time. Great minds...
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
    Well I'm deff doing it wrong as I have no idea what that means, I'm in school and have part time job can't afford a personal trainer so try to educate myself online about it. Sadly so much of it is wrong.
    However I'm 5'2 weigh 125 and still have a little tummy that I want to be a 6 pack in a few months lol so I'm gonna keep trying

    Are you trying to lose weight, build muscle, or both?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    when I did my bulk I ate a ton of potatoes and sweet potatoes...like 2 or 3 per day...and pasta with a good bolognese.

    mmmm bolognese.

    Is the OP bulking? I must have missed that.

    A question, wolfman (since you're one of the most knowledgeable guys on here): why carbs and not fats for a bulk? I've never *tried* to gain weight. Going on the pill was the easiest way for me to bulk lol.

    first and foremost you want carbs for the energy you need to really put in the work volume and progressively overload the body...beyond that, the insulin response is conducive to growth.
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
    Well I'm deff doing it wrong as I have no idea what that means, I'm in school and have part time job can't afford a personal trainer so try to educate myself online about it. Sadly so much of it is wrong.
    However I'm 5'2 weigh 125 and still have a little tummy that I want to be a 6 pack in a few months lol so I'm gonna keep trying

    it's sounds more like you want to do a recomp...which is slow...you don't get 6 packs in a few months; that's not how it works. really, you should be eating a healthy and balanced diet at or maybe slightly less than maintenance calories and hitting the weight room with some solid programming...look at programs like New Rules of Lifting for Women or Strong Curves...these are good all around fitness/lifting programs...if you want to get really really strong, look to programs like Stronglifts 5x5.

    when you re-comp, basically you will add a little muscle and lose a little fat...very, very slowly. this is why people tend more towards cutting and bulking cycles.

    to bulk is to put on muscle mass which requires a surplus of energy...i.e. more calories than your body would need to maintain weight...when you eat at a surplus and do nothing, you get fat...when you eat at a surplus and hit the weight room hard, you put on some solid muscle (along with some fat).
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    OP - I would suggest reading the below stickys...you may not want to bulk, but you could give recomp a shot. That is, if you truly want to gain some muscle:

    Recomposition:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/comment/33125652#Comment_33125652

    Bulking:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10049766/bulking-a-complete-guide-for-beginners

    Doh, posted at the same time. Great minds...

    ha, agree
  • ahayes7768
    ahayes7768 Posts: 18 Member
    Okay everyone thank you so much for advice but no I'm not trying to lose weight I really just wanted to maybe gain a few pounds of muscle ( pretty sure im at a healthy weight already for my size) And when I say good in carbs, its because I don't like to put trash in my body lol I'm the one that won't eat high fructose corn syrup, try to avoid any sugar that's not natural and shop all organic when I have the money. I will deff be reading the posts that were listed! Thanks guys for those. Also I know I dont need A LOT of carbs but more then 25/30 grams a day would be nice lol. Thank u all and e xcuse my ignorance :)
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    Okay everyone thank you so much for advice but no I'm not trying to lose weight I really just wanted to maybe gain a few pounds of muscle ( pretty sure im at a healthy weight already for my size) And when I say good in carbs, its because I don't like to put trash in my body lol I'm the one that won't eat high fructose corn syrup, try to avoid any sugar that's not natural and shop all organic when I have the money. I will deff be reading the posts that were listed! Thanks guys for those. Also I know I dont need A LOT of carbs but more then 25/30 grams a day would be nice lol. Thank u all and e xcuse my ignorance :)

    Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying on your goals.
    Root vegetables and legumes!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    ahayes7768 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    uhhhh...you don't have to "get your carbs." if you don't like rice, don't eat rice...if you don't like bread then don't eat bread...none of those things are necessary to be healthy.

    maybe eat some fruit...


    Sorry forgot to mention that I'm trying to build muscle. Prettt sure I nees carbs for that..

    well first and foremost you need calories then...you need to eat at a surplus. and yes...carbs are important to a bulk...but are you eating in a surplus? if you're not, you're doing it wrong.
    Well I'm deff doing it wrong as I have no idea what that means, I'm in school and have part time job can't afford a personal trainer so try to educate myself online about it. Sadly so much of it is wrong.
    However I'm 5'2 weigh 125 and still have a little tummy that I want to be a 6 pack in a few months lol so I'm gonna keep trying

    it sounds like you either want to do a recomp or eat in a slight deficit like .5 pound a week loss.

    You are probably new to lifting, so I would suggest looking into strong lifts, all pro beginner routine, or new rules of lifting for woman. You do not need a trainer just study up on proper form of the big compound movements and then execute them. You can find videos on you tube.

    Just pick a program, stay with it, and be consistent with your logging, and training.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    edited July 2015
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    when I did my bulk I ate a ton of potatoes and sweet potatoes...like 2 or 3 per day...and pasta with a good bolognese.

    mmmm bolognese.

    Is the OP bulking? I must have missed that.

    A question, wolfman (since you're one of the most knowledgeable guys on here): why carbs and not fats for a bulk? I've never *tried* to gain weight. Going on the pill was the easiest way for me to bulk lol.

    More muscle
    http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2012/03/if-you-go-high-carb-you-better-go.html
    and an experiment based on this study
    https://www.facebook.com/gregory.nuckols/posts/10152979840218779:0
    "1) His macros are 800g of carbohydrate, 300g of protein, and as little fat as possible. Generally around 30g per day. (inspired by this study, but with higher protein and an even more skewed carb:fat ratio - http://www.cabdirect.org/…/20113206370.html;jsessionid=19A3…)"
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