Diet is being challenged.. what to do?
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Because wheat bread has no carbs, amirite?azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »nvsmomketo wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
If you are following the GI index (basically how fast food sugar enter the blood), whole wheat bread is often higher on the GI index than white bread.
Skip the bread. Eat roast and veggies and fruit would be my advice. And have fun.
That's a lie.
Um, no.
Maybe I should have said "sometimes" instead of often. I remember looking into that years ago and found some whole wheat had a high GI than white. I was surprised.
Both are foods that have a high GI. Bread is worse than table sugar. I firmly believe people can do without bread, unless you want to up your carbs and need the vitamins in the fortified flours. Or possibly if you are living on an extremely tight budget and need cheap calories.
JMO.
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We had a get together at my parents house yesterday. I knew we were going to have a big dinner, so I brought my baseball glove with my and my brother and I played catch for an hour while the kids were swimming and everyone else was relaxing. I burned some cals with a fun activity, and could eat a little more at dinner
Echoing what everyone else has said about the deficit you are eating at. Unless it is supervised by a doctor, you could easily eat more and still lose. Take it from a guy who has been there and done that, it will only lead to a massive binge and falling off the rails. Take the negativity out of your eating, eat what you want, at a healthy deficit. 0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
Is that a medical condition now? I thought it was a warning sign that someone needs to lose weight0 -
Real life includes special occasions, and special and social occasions usually involve lots of high calorie food.
There are several options, and they do not have to be exclusive:
1. Just roll with it, and do as you please. One day is not going to make a significant difference. Stress and drama about what you eat are, arguably, worse than what you eat.
2. Bring a veggie tray and/or a fruit plate, either for yourself or to share.
3. Knowledge is power. Look up how much is a serving, and how many calories are in a serving, and make informed choices, such as deconstruct the sandwiches, skip the chips, take a small piece of cake.
As for the "NEVER" eat white bread - that has not been my experience. As a general rule of thumb, a single portion of any grain based product is going to be about 150 calories. Some options will have more fiber or otherwise "better" nutrition value, for some metric of "better", but any mass-market bread is probably generally equivalent to any other.
A check of nutritiondata.self.com reveals the following:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/baked-products/4876/2 (bread, whole wheat, commercially prepared v. bread, white, commercially prepared)
1 28g serving wheat bread: 69 calories, 8 calories from fat. Sodium 132 mg. Fiber - 2 g, Sugar 2g , protein 4g Carbs, 12 g
1 28g serving white bread: 74 calories, 8 calories from fat. Sodium 191 mg Fiber 1g Sugar 1g Protein 2g Carbs 14g
For my purposes, the two are essentially equivalent; your concerns may vary.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
Is that a medical condition now? I thought it was a warning sign that someone needs to lose weight
Honestly it all depends on who you talk to. OP has an A1c of 6.7 which is considered full-blown type 2 diabetes by the Mayo Clinic. However, OP's doctor simply said he is 'insulin resistant.'
An A1c between 5.7 and 6.4 is considered pre-diabetes- which is a warning sign like you said that they 1) need to lose weight if they are overweight/obese or 2) need to drastically change their diet. Or both. Sometimes a person is at a healthy weight and eats a 'healthy' diet but they still have an A1c of 8 or higher. This would be a scenario where it is linked to genetics.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
Is that a medical condition now? I thought it was a warning sign that someone needs to lose weight
To be fair, some pre-diabetics are told to watch their carbs by their doctors. Whether that advice is scientifically sound? That's probably a fair argument, but it is a common prescription.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
His medical condition is that he's overweight. Stop it.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?
OP has an A1c of 6.7. 6.7 is equivalent to a blood glucose of 146 mg/dL. Not horrible but it is elevated. Besides, his blood glucose must spike pretty high in order to have an A1c of 6.7.
Whether or not he is diabetic doesn't matter because he still has an elevated blood glucose. Hyperglycemia is a medical condition.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?
OP has an A1c of 6.7. 6.7 is equivalent to a blood glucose of 146 mg/dL. Not horrible but it is elevated. Besides, his blood glucose must spike pretty high in order to have an A1c of 6.7.
Whether or not he is diabetic doesn't matter because he still has an elevated blood glucose. Hyperglycemia is a medical condition.
Are you a diabetes specialist now
Not that one is needed if he was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and advised to lose weight
Irrelevant information is...irrelevant...0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?
OP has an A1c of 6.7. 6.7 is equivalent to a blood glucose of 146 mg/dL. Not horrible but it is elevated. Besides, his blood glucose must spike pretty high in order to have an A1c of 6.7.
Whether or not he is diabetic doesn't matter because he still has an elevated blood glucose. Hyperglycemia is a medical condition.
Are you a diabetes specialist now
Not that one is needed if he was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and advised to lose weight
Irrelevant information is...irrelevant...
Since I have an insulinoma, hyperinsulinemia, and hypoglycemia and have worked closely with endocrinologists and dietitians specialized in diabetes management for the past 3 years, I'd say that I know what I'm talking about. However if you don't like what I have to say, you can see for yourself here: 1) http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10209090/can-i-still-lose-wight-with-insulin-resistance 2) http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/a1c-test/basics/results/prc-200125850 -
nvsmomketo wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »nvsmomketo wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
If you are following the GI index (basically how fast food sugar enter the blood), whole wheat bread is often higher on the GI index than white bread.
Skip the bread. Eat roast and veggies and fruit would be my advice. And have fun.
That's a lie.
I firmly believe people can do without bread
I don't see your point. People can do without ANY particular food. People can do without eggs, for example. They can get that protein elsewhere. For me, bread brings in fibre - I'm often under. It also brings in sandwiches. Bacon sandwiches. I can't do without that!0 -
How did this get hijacked?
OP, if you come back, you'll be dealing with events like this for the rest of your life, so it is important to find a way to cope with them. I would have a few chips, have a sandwich. Make it fit into your daily goal, and enjoy it.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?
OP has an A1c of 6.7. 6.7 is equivalent to a blood glucose of 146 mg/dL. Not horrible but it is elevated. Besides, his blood glucose must spike pretty high in order to have an A1c of 6.7.
Whether or not he is diabetic doesn't matter because he still has an elevated blood glucose. Hyperglycemia is a medical condition.
Are you a diabetes specialist now
Not that one is needed if he was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and advised to lose weight
Irrelevant information is...irrelevant...
Since I have an insulinoma, hyperinsulinemia, and hypoglycemia and have worked closely with endocrinologists and dietitians specialized in diabetes management for the past 3 years, I'd say that I know what I'm talking about. However if you don't like what I have to say, you can see for yourself here: 1) http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10209090/can-i-still-lose-wight-with-insulin-resistance 2) http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/a1c-test/basics/results/prc-20012585
No thanks
OP said he had been diagnosed with pre-diabetes which is good enough for me
I think your further internet diagnosis is perhaps unwarranted0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
So not true. I refuse to give up white bread and I have lost 59 pounds.Matter of fact I have bread pretty much every day.
Sure...but the OP has a medical condition. He needs to be on a reduced-carb diet.
You can't compare your experience to his.
Did I totally miss where OP stated a medical condition?
He posted it in another thread. He is pre-diabetic.
He is not yet diabetic, and is taking action to keep it that way? So no medical condition?
OP has an A1c of 6.7. 6.7 is equivalent to a blood glucose of 146 mg/dL. Not horrible but it is elevated. Besides, his blood glucose must spike pretty high in order to have an A1c of 6.7.
Whether or not he is diabetic doesn't matter because he still has an elevated blood glucose. Hyperglycemia is a medical condition.
Are you a diabetes specialist now
Not that one is needed if he was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and advised to lose weight
Irrelevant information is...irrelevant...
Since I have an insulinoma, hyperinsulinemia, and hypoglycemia and have worked closely with endocrinologists and dietitians specialized in diabetes management for the past 3 years, I'd say that I know what I'm talking about. However if you don't like what I have to say, you can see for yourself here: 1) http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10209090/can-i-still-lose-wight-with-insulin-resistance 2) http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/a1c-test/basics/results/prc-20012585
No thanks
OP said he had been diagnosed with pre-diabetes which is good enough for me
I think your further internet diagnosis is perhaps unwarranted
Exactly what I told you the first time.
Stating the info I learned in nursing school and while in clinical regarding an A1c higher than 6.4 is not 'irrelevant' or 'unwarranted.' You asked a question and I gave you numbers to back it up.
Don't like it? Don't ask next time.-3 -
Kaelan1995 wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »It's all about caloric deficit, NOT, giving up foods. Also, I'm sorry but I don't understand the "no wheat bread" reference.
Sorry, should have been more specific. Someone told me to NEVER eat plain white bread.. it would cause you to gain weight like crazy. So i have been eating whole grain, wheat bread.. (the brown kind) because it hasn't been bleached.
Whoever told you that is wrong. Do not demonize foods. Too much of *anything* is bad, but everything in moderation is absolutely fine.
You go to the party and make the best choices that you possibly can. Limit the amount you eat to the best of your ability and then make your best stab at logging it all. Above all else, enjoy the party! The party is about your niece, not the food, so make sure you enjoy it and celebrate your niece! In the end, if you over eat, or go over your calorie allotment for the day, pick yourself up and start again tomorrow. Losing weight isn't just about getting thin. It's about learning how to function in life as a thin person. This means that you have to learn how to go to parties, celebrations and social engagements and enjoy them without letting them derail you. It is fine to indulge once in a while. One day didn't make you fat and one day won't ruin your diet. It's your pattern of behavior over time ( a LONG time) that counts.0 -
Kaelan1995 wrote: »If the bread is something nasty like Wonderbread, take out the meat and the cheese and just eat that. Then roll the bread slices into little nuggets and fire them at people. If it's nice crusty bread, eat half a sandwich.
You could also bring your own food.
Lol, your comment made me laugh. I was told to only eat whole grain bread, not the bleached kind.. and that's the only thing available. I'm already at my brothers house, i wish i would have thought to bring my own food.
Since you have probably already eaten, take the advice of those who say "log it, take a walk, and keep eating at a deficit after this." It is understandable that since you are new to eating at a deficit that you are anxious to be around food that you are trying to eat less of. But, you got this far so just keep on keeping on!0
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