Eating 1400 cals a day and lifting weights 5 days a week and cardio here and there and not losing
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_dracarys_ wrote: »sunnyazgirl wrote: »I am far from an expert, but I recently went to a seminar on weight loss given by a trainer and he said that weight loss does not occur with weght training. Weight training is for muscle developement. You must do cardio for fat loss. You sais you do cardio occasionally. Perhaps you should increase it? I do some cardio everyday and resstance training 3 days a week at this time. Also, open your diary as suggested above. The people on here were able to really help me with my recent plateau once I did that.
You were greatly misinformed. There are many people on this site (myself included) who lost a ton of body fat without ever doing a minute of cardio. It comes down to a calorie deficit.
I meant realize that it is calorie deficit. I do all three - calorie deficit, cardio and weights & resistance at this point.0 -
I am sorry. I did not know I was given misinformation. As I said, I am not an expert, but I was under the impression that the person who told us this was.IsaackGMOON wrote: »sunnyazgirl wrote: »I am far from an expert, but I recently went to a seminar on weight loss given by a trainer and he said that weight loss does not occur with weght training. Weight training is for muscle developement. You must do cardio for fat loss. You sais you do cardio occasionally. Perhaps you should increase it? I do some cardio everyday and resstance training 3 days a week at this time. Also, open your diary as suggested above. The people on here were able to really help me with my recent plateau once I did that.
I don't know what sort of seminar you went to... but it gave you bad advice.
Weight loss can occur with weight training. Remember that weight loss comes from a caloric deficit - you can do any sort of physical activity while eating in a caloric deficit.
You do not have to do cardio for fat loss. That comes from a caloric deficit.
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sunnyazgirl wrote: »
I am sorry. I did not know I was given misinformation. As I said, I am not an expert, but I was under the impression that the person who told us this was.IsaackGMOON wrote: »sunnyazgirl wrote: »I am far from an expert, but I recently went to a seminar on weight loss given by a trainer and he said that weight loss does not occur with weght training. Weight training is for muscle developement. You must do cardio for fat loss. You sais you do cardio occasionally. Perhaps you should increase it? I do some cardio everyday and resstance training 3 days a week at this time. Also, open your diary as suggested above. The people on here were able to really help me with my recent plateau once I did that.
I don't know what sort of seminar you went to... but it gave you bad advice.
Weight loss can occur with weight training. Remember that weight loss comes from a caloric deficit - you can do any sort of physical activity while eating in a caloric deficit.
You do not have to do cardio for fat loss. That comes from a caloric deficit.
Stop spurting your misinformed information around the forums please.
At least you know the correct information now
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one more add. i am not a doctor and don't want to meddle but if PCOS affects hormonal balances/functions that must have a weight affect. I grabbed this very quickly, but quite frankly "the apple" weight gain situation and the hormone changes sound A LOT like andropause in men and the resulting visceral fat and Apple shape. VERY VERY hard to lose........(i can tell you from PERSONAL experience <smile> Here was a clip from WEBMD i think.
"""" PCOS makes it more difficult for the body to use the hormone insulin, which normally helps convert sugars and starches from foods into energy. This condition -- called insulin resistance -- can cause insulin and sugar -- glucose -- to build up in the bloodstream.
High insulin levels increase the production of male hormones called androgens. High androgen levels lead to symptoms such as body hair growth, acne, irregular periods -- and weight gain. Because the weight gain is triggered by male hormones, it is typically in the abdomen. That is where men tend to carry weight. So, instead of having a pear shape, women with PCOS have more of an apple shape."""""
So I think you can't battle this with conventional or traditional weight loss theory and thinking? Estrogen, and androgen and cortisol and all that stuff. by my read you have some of the same hormonal effects at 18 as a 50+ year man/woman.
I would look at some other factors as well like alcohol (affecting your digestive tract and vascular system) hopefully you have not affected your systems as such a young age? also caffeine and coffee as an acidic chemical. You digestion and your systems maybe need to be cleared out of these distractions.
What I mean is look at what you are eating? grass fed meats if you must (loads of hormones and antibiotics and GMO feed etc in farm raised meats and products - just STOP) and eat whole foods, no booze, no caffeine. these will get your circadian rhythm and recovery and fat burning processes back in order.
A plateau means time for a change............so change? All you have to lose is the weight? <smile> of course when you do since fat store a lot of hormones and toxins, you will feel better even more noticeably.
okay i am starting to sound like a nut-burger here. i am done.
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thomasjohnlynch wrote: »i prefer to scan or find certified food entries (not hard with the very large database on MFP) all that weighing and "guessing" it time consuming, takes time, and is so easy to skip or make mistakes. As other's have said weight training will help you boost metabolism and burn all the time, but you don't actually burn that much fuel while doing it, just rearranging your "chassis" and fat% and muscle mass. Don't go too crazy with the cardio either, it will cause "stress" and flight or flight response over long periods and cause you to retain weight (sacrificing nutrient and absorption, etc. to save food for when the "crisis" passes and also it will lean out and burn that muscle you have been trying to build. i say as a rule don't go over 30 minutes. I actually do a 15 min interval elliptical. (2 mins 6 mpg, 1 minute 12 mph, 2 min 6 mph, etc etc 5 "cycles.) 250 to 300 cals or "energy" and sweating like a sheep dog - DONE. Using a MIO Apha2 cardio watch and DigiFit that links to MFP. Oh yeah, last question is that 1,400 NET calories? are you EATING back your exercise? i.e. eating 2,000 and burning 600 so net 1,400?
lol, yeah can't lose weight doing more than 30 mins cardio. :noway:
Nothing wrong with HITT - but saying not to do over 30 mins is silly - what if you want to train for a marathon while you lose weight? (I'll be training for a half)
Also 300 cals in 15 minutes - very very unlikely.
Urg - you also have your setting at a baseline of 1400 cals a day - that's super low for a man0 -
thomasjohnlynch wrote: »one more add. i am not a doctor and don't want to meddle but if PCOS affects hormonal balances/functions that must have a weight affect. I grabbed this very quickly, but quite frankly "the apple" weight gain situation and the hormone changes sound A LOT like andropause in men and the resulting visceral fat and Apple shape. VERY VERY hard to lose........(i can tell you from PERSONAL experience <smile> Here was a clip from WEBMD i think.
"""" PCOS makes it more difficult for the body to use the hormone insulin, which normally helps convert sugars and starches from foods into energy. This condition -- called insulin resistance -- can cause insulin and sugar -- glucose -- to build up in the bloodstream.
High insulin levels increase the production of male hormones called androgens. High androgen levels lead to symptoms such as body hair growth, acne, irregular periods -- and weight gain. Because the weight gain is triggered by male hormones, it is typically in the abdomen. That is where men tend to carry weight. So, instead of having a pear shape, women with PCOS have more of an apple shape."""""
So I think you can't battle this with conventional or traditional weight loss theory and thinking? Estrogen, and androgen and cortisol and all that stuff. by my read you have some of the same hormonal effects at 18 as a 50+ year man/woman.
I would look at some other factors as well like alcohol (affecting your digestive tract and vascular system) hopefully you have not affected your systems as such a young age? also caffeine and coffee as an acidic chemical. You digestion and your systems maybe need to be cleared out of these distractions.
What I mean is look at what you are eating? grass fed meats if you must (loads of hormones and antibiotics and GMO feed etc in farm raised meats and products - just STOP) and eat whole foods, no booze, no caffeine. these will get your circadian rhythm and recovery and fat burning processes back in order.
A plateau means time for a change............so change? All you have to lose is the weight? <smile> of course when you do since fat store a lot of hormones and toxins, you will feel better even more noticeably.
okay i am starting to sound like a nut-burger here. i am done.
more like someone spouting broscience. :noway:1 -
If you're accurately logging everything but your cheat meals, I'd bet your cheat meals is where the problem lies.
This is why I am not personally a fan of "cheat days" or "cheat" anything. Log, log, log. 90% of the time if you are not losing, it's because you are not in a caloric deficit. The other 10% is aliens.
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If its been 2 weeks: too soon to panic. Could be sodium, stress, TOM, etc. Keep going, and within 4-6 weeks you should resume the downward trend.0
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The 6 pounds is most likely water retention. Seriously, you're doing great so just be patient. It's normal when beginning lifting to retain. Also, I can't stress enough, use a food scale!0
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maillemaker wrote: »If you're accurately logging everything but your cheat meals, I'd bet your cheat meals is where the problem lies.
This is why I am not personally a fan of "cheat days" or "cheat" anything. Log, log, log. 90% of the time if you are not losing, it's because you are not in a caloric deficit. The other 10% is aliens.
I agree with this! If you have to cheat, you won't stick to it.
Make your favorite foods part of your meal plans and weigh/log every day. Instead of a cheat day, take some of the foods you are craving and spread them over a few days. That way you can have more control over the calories.0 -
2 weeks not long enough.
Anything unlogged, especially cheat meals IS the problem. How do you know your total deficit if you're not logging anything during the cheat meals?
There is a pcos group here with a large store of knowkedge that you can benefit from.0 -
jesikalovesyou wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »If you're accurately logging everything but your cheat meals, I'd bet your cheat meals is where the problem lies.
This is why I am not personally a fan of "cheat days" or "cheat" anything. Log, log, log. 90% of the time if you are not losing, it's because you are not in a caloric deficit. The other 10% is aliens.
I agree with this! If you have to cheat, you won't stick to it.
Make your favorite foods part of your meal plans and weigh/log every day. Instead of a cheat day, take some of the foods you are craving and spread them over a few days. That way you can have more control over the calories.
That's not true. I have a 'cheat' day once a week - though I do log it and try to only eat to maintenance. If I didn't do that I'd never go out for meals with friends or go to my pub quiz where I enjoy a few pints. A cheat day for me isn't to have my favourite foods - I can fit those in with careful logging - it is so I still have normal days with my mates.
A cheat day makes it easier for me to eat lower cals during the week.0 -
Thanks so much:)Liftng4Lis wrote: »The 6 pounds is most likely water retention. Seriously, you're doing great so just be patient. It's normal when beginning lifting to retain. Also, I can't stress enough, use a food scale!
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Thanks everyone! This helped me A lot! I'm gonna do cheat days to maintaince cals and I'm weighing everything from now on no matter what! 0
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Are you eating any snacks? Drinks? I didn't see them in your diary. Also, avoid the quick add calories.0
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sunnyazgirl wrote: »I am far from an expert, but I recently went to a seminar on weight loss given by a trainer and he said that weight loss does not occur with weght training. Weight training is for muscle developement. You must do cardio for fat loss. You sais you do cardio occasionally. Perhaps you should increase it? I do some cardio everyday and resstance training 3 days a week at this time. Also, open your diary as suggested above. The people on here were able to really help me with my recent plateau once I did that.
No, just no.....You don't have to do more cardio...... And that trainer is not an expert either..... OP, you took a week off and went on vacation, you are retaining water because you ate different food and you built up your glycogyn stores... Drink water, do what you normally do and stop panicking - my weight can fluctuate by 5lbs a day....0 -
StaciMarie1974 wrote: »If its been 2 weeks: too soon to panic. Could be sodium, stress, TOM, etc. Keep going, and within 4-6 weeks you should resume the downward trend.
Totally agree. Just keep at it. Tighten up your logging, log your cheat days, don't rely on MFP for estimating calories burned (it's wildly inaccurate), watch your sodium intake and just keep going! The scale also isn't everything, maybe start taking progress pictures and measurements too.0 -
IsaackGMOON wrote: »
- Are you using an electric food scale?
- Are you weighing food accurately? i.e. using grams instead of cups
- How are you obtaining your calorie burns? MFP, HRM or machines?
Open your diary too.
OMG you're using that meme! I love it!
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strong_curves wrote: »IsaackGMOON wrote: »
- Are you using an electric food scale?
- Are you weighing food accurately? i.e. using grams instead of cups
- How are you obtaining your calorie burns? MFP, HRM or machines?
Open your diary too.
OMG you're using that meme! I love it!
It's the best meme.
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I have a few questions..
Why is it unlikely to hit 300 calories burned in 15 minutes? I do HIT as well.. and it says i burn say 370 or so and i usually round it down to 300. Though i don't eat back my calories, I keep this as note for reference or goal. So would you say this is possibly highly inaccurate?
Also, i know MFP has ratios at 2300 for sodium, do you all suggest less? I generally am under 2000 but I'm curious if theres an amount to be cautious of when losing weight.
And also just wanted to mention thanks to all for the tips in weighing in grams vs cups. though i use both interchangeably, didn't realize it made a difference as well !0 -
oops and sorry i didn't mean to hijack the thread. lol0
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prettywingss04 wrote: »I have a few questions..
Why is it unlikely to hit 300 calories burned in 15 minutes? I do HIT as well.. and it says i burn say 370 or so and i usually round it down to 300. Though i don't eat back my calories, I keep this as note for reference or goal. So would you say this is possibly highly inaccurate?
Also, i know MFP has ratios at 2300 for sodium, do you all suggest less? I generally am under 2000 but I'm curious if theres an amount to be cautious of when losing weight.
And also just wanted to mention thanks to all for the tips in weighing in grams vs cups. though i use both interchangeably, didn't realize it made a difference as well !
What high intensity training are you doing?
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