Why do I see body builders eating less than me?

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  • kristinels
    kristinels Posts: 315 Member
    richln wrote: »
    Adaptive thermogenesis (aka metabolic adaptation): BMR can decrease to become more efficient in response to prolonged calorie deficit or aggressive deficit

    Stupid metabolism! Lol! Okay - so if one ends the prolonged calorie deficit and starts eating at maintenance, does the adaptive thermogenesis become reversed and will the BMR adjust again?
  • richln
    richln Posts: 809 Member
    kristinels wrote: »
    richln wrote: »
    Adaptive thermogenesis (aka metabolic adaptation): BMR can decrease to become more efficient in response to prolonged calorie deficit or aggressive deficit

    Stupid metabolism! Lol! Okay - so if one ends the prolonged calorie deficit and starts eating at maintenance, does the adaptive thermogenesis become reversed and will the BMR adjust again?

    Yes. It is good to take a couple of weeks break at maintenance every few months or follow a short reverse dieting protocol: http://rippedbody.jp/diet-break/
  • tephanies1234
    tephanies1234 Posts: 299 Member
    kristinels wrote: »
    richln wrote: »
    Adaptive thermogenesis (aka metabolic adaptation): BMR can decrease to become more efficient in response to prolonged calorie deficit or aggressive deficit

    Stupid metabolism! Lol! Okay - so if one ends the prolonged calorie deficit and starts eating at maintenance, does the adaptive thermogenesis become reversed and will the BMR adjust again?

    I did 4 months of straight dieting, took 3 months off when I just couldn't seem to lose anymore, now I'm following a macro plan put together by my coach and losing inches at a greater pace on more calories than I was when I was following my own dieting. Only one extra day of exercise added.
  • minties82
    minties82 Posts: 907 Member
    edited July 2015
    gia07 wrote: »
    Eating 110-130 protein would equate to around 440 to 520 calories of her total 1900 to 2100 calories. I highly doubt there is a "low carb" equation in these calories...

    This sparked my curiosity as well..

    Why? Fat can make up the rest. This was my day yesterday.

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  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    gia07 wrote: »
    Eating 110-130 protein would equate to around 440 to 520 calories of her total 1900 to 2100 calories. I highly doubt there is a "low carb" equation in these calories...

    This sparked my curiosity as well..

    Ah you guys are right. I just went through my reports and my averages have been 160 protein, 53 fat, 325 carbs. I guess I do eat quite a bit of carbs lol. It doesn't feel like it though because most of them come from vegetables.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    kristinels wrote: »
    Tedebearduff wrote: »

    OP - my son has the exact same problem as you. He has difficulty gaining weight because he just gets 'tired' of the taste of stuff before he's eaten a lot of it and quits eating. He's a little over 6' tall and only 127 lbs! Are you able to do anything to increase your appetite perhaps? I was considering buying him protein powder or those 'bulking' shakes that have tons of calories packed into a fairly small volume...

    Thank you for the tips. I think maybe whats bringing me down is my 2 days a week at 1900-2000 when I am just not hungry for anything. (All the other days I hit 2100, I don't let myself do it for more than 2 a week). I just hate forcing myself to eat when I am not hungry because it just doesn't taste good. I will try to buy protein powder and try that, just hate so expensive! But I am willing to spend the money if it helps. :)
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »

    I am so sorry about the loss of your brother.

    You just perceive these other people are eating a certain calorie goal unless you are with them 24/7 and see every single thing they eat.

    If you are trying to gain weight, I suggest you eat a whole lot more and cut your exercise down a bit (half hour a day, maybe).

    Thank you very much, I appreciate your kind words. Yeah thats true, I just was basing it off what people "tell me" and "say" on these forums and in real life but it's very true that I cant really trust what people say out in the real world because they are most likely eating more (and not using a food scale). I will try to cut back on my exercise, it is just hard because it makes me feel so happy. Maybe I will try to incorporate more weights instead.
  • minties82
    minties82 Posts: 907 Member
    edited July 2015
    Eat more fat perhaps. Fat doesn't make you fat, or kill you. You could get more calories in if you add an avocado, some dark chocolate or some butter to your veg.
  • littlekitty3
    littlekitty3 Posts: 265 Member
    1) in order to gain weight you need to be eating 2500+ calories. Why'? Because 2500 is on the low end for those who need to gain weight, I've seen people eat over 8000 calories to try and gain.
    2) There is no number 2 because it's not rocket science, you stated you eat 1900-2000 calories a day ONTOP of working out. Simply eat more until you start to gain weight. Unless you have a freak metabolism then I would suggest seeing a doctor and a nutritionist.
    Also a lot of bodybuilders go low cal when they cut.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    orchidee1987 wrote: »
    Are you REALLY trying to gain weight eating ONLY 2000 calories and working out 5 hours a week ?

    I could be trying harder, but I did that for about a week and was miserable and sick to my stomach and was having a hard time working because I felt too full. I guess I thought that being so underweight I should gain easily on this amount. Then when it stopped I'd have to eventually eat more.
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  • ExRelaySprinter
    ExRelaySprinter Posts: 874 Member
    minties82 wrote: »
    Eat more fat perhaps. Fat doesn't make you fat, or kill you. You could get more calories in if you add an avocado, some dark chocolate or some butter to your veg.

    Yes, this^^.
    Also, try eating Nuts....they're very calorific.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    richln wrote: »
    Sorry about your brother. Individual BMR may not vary much from normal, but a lot of untrackable behaviors get lumped into TDEE. Nervous ticks like shuffling your feet while you are sitting, tossing around a lot in your sleep, a job where you have to sit down and get up a lot, a lot of stairs in your house, etc, are all somewhat invisible activity that goes towards your TDEE. My son can't sit still for 5 minutes with getting up to randomly jump up and down or run around in circles.
    A lot of people log inaccurately too because they don't have a food scale or just because there are so many bad entries in the database.

    Yes thats true, I didn't think of that. I am on my feet a lot at work. Thanks for your reply.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    littlekitty3 wrote: »
    1) in order to gain weight you need to be eating 2500+ calories. Why'? Because 2500 is on the low end for those who need to gain weight, I've seen people eat over 8000 calories to try and gain.
    2) There is no number 2 because it's not rocket science, you stated you eat 1900-2000 calories a day ONTOP of working out. Simply eat more until you start to gain weight. Unless you have a freak metabolism then I would suggest seeing a doctor and a nutritionist.
    Also a lot of bodybuilders go low cal when they cut.

    Yes I know it takes about 2500 when the person isn't SO underweight. That is what I was confused about. Why I could lose to get SO underweight on 1500 and then not gain it back. When a lot of people are underweight they usually gain very easily because bodies don't like to be underweight. It would be different if I was only a few lbs underweight. I will suck it up and stop fooling myself. I guess I just need to eat 2500 if I want to see results bottom line.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    eliteeraser000 wrote: »
    Go cry me a river

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WGLwzbvx4S4

    Sorry, I guess I just need to suck it up and eat more. You all are right.
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  • minties82
    minties82 Posts: 907 Member
    Sounds like you eat a truckload of vegetables, so just swap some out for higher fat foods. And I agree nuts are a fantastic choice!
  • ajff
    ajff Posts: 986 Member
    Ok, back to the 36 or 38 ATP question --

    I've worked on educational materials related to cellular respiration and the reason there is a difference is b/c when the electrons from our food are carried into the inner mitochondrial membrane, there are 2 types of electron carriers: NADH and FADH2. If NADH carries the electrons to the inner membrane, you get 38 ATP. BUT, FADH2 carries electrons from the citric acid cycle and unloads them in a different spot, resulting in 36 ATPs.

    I never get to use that piece of trivia, thanks for the opportunity to share it!
  • losingitseattle
    losingitseattle Posts: 90 Member
    edited July 2015
    http://rippedbody.jp/diet-break/

    That was a really good article. Thanks for posting!

  • mirrim52
    mirrim52 Posts: 763 Member
    You don't necessarily have to eat a larger volume of food, but choose more calorie dense foods. Make sure you are consuming full fat dairy if you eat dairy. Use healthy oils in your cooking. There are ways to get more calories without feeling like you are stuffing yourself or eating crap all day.
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