"If you're fat and lose weight, you're probably gonna get fat again"
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When I first started losing weight, I was eating in a way that was not something I could do long term. I thought at first I would be able to, but then I just wasn't able to take it anymore (after about 6-7 months). I maintained the loss for a few months before Holidays and moving, during which time I made absolutely horrible choices. Yes, I regained about half of what I had lost. I did catch myself though and lost what I had regained plus an additional 20 lbs or so with the help of MFP (bring me to the 90lb loss mark). Then, yep I regained again. I was told to stop counting calories by a doctor for a 9 month duration. I managed to maintain my loss for a few months before hormones and poor choices caught up with me. I gained 40 lbs during those 9 months. However, it's been a little over a year (14 months to be exact) since those 9 months ended and I not only lost the weight I had gained but also lost an additional 38 lbs.
I was disappointed with my self for the first regain, but I learned somethings from it. My second regain, doesn't bother me at all. I probably could have minimized my regain if I had continued to count the second time, but my doctor was concerned that I was restricting too much and he was probably right. I did manage to keep the weight off for a few months. That is until hormones and bad choices got the best of me. It was brief and every pound was worth it in the end though. :laugh:
I'm not sure how I'm going to handle maintenance. I'm actually scared of it a bit. Which is probably part of the reason that I moved my goal a little lower (I know I can't keep moving it downwards and I'm going to have to stop at some point). I'm going to try my hardest not to regain any of the weight I've lost. I know it's a possibility, but I'm hoping that I will have the will power/motivation to keep myself in check. I really fear that I'll end up letting a little slip up gain of say 10 lbs snowball out of control. I want to be able to say that will never happen, but I know that I can't predict my future.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »flamingblades wrote: »If you return to old habits, OF COURSE you will gain it back. I think changing ones lifestyle and dump the pizza and braughtworst, and trade it for lean chicken and fish, beans and low carb foods as well as a great workout at least 3 days a week or more. Good things are bound to happen. You shed the old you and leave it behind you, never to return. It can be done, I am living proof.
There is nothing wrong with pizza. In my experience those who try to continue the elimination diets into the never ending maintenance are not very successful.
I like the idea that eliminating bratwurst = a major lifestyle change. I didn't know that many people were that into bratwurst before. Maybe we are all from Wisconsin?
Aside: I never ate bratwurst (brats) before I moved to Wisconsin, but they are pretty much a staple food here during summer grilling season. They are far superior to hot dogs and I feel sorry for those who don't have them readily available.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't know why these statistics are discouraging to some people. Knowledge is always good and helps formulate plans. When I look at statistics here is what I see...
Many people regain weight:
It's going to need constant attention from me and reaching my goal weight does not mean "I'm done".
People who lose weight often have metabolic adaptation:
I need to take that into account when designing my maintenance plan.
90% of the people who maintain exercise at least 1 hour a day:
Physical activity will need to always be a part of my life.
People who weigh themselves often tend to regain less weight than those who don't:
Keep a close eye on the scales and catch any weight gain before it's out of control.
Those who are educated about maintenance tend to retain weight loss better than those who aren't (duh):
It's never too early to start thinking about and planning maintenance.
Emotional triggers are one of the most common reasons for regain:
Learn coping mechanisms for various negative emotions, stress reduction and seeking help right away when depressed.
Maintaining the weight loss for more than 5 years greatly increases the odds of long term maintenance:
Every time I feel like giving in I should keep my eyes on this goal and tell myself "Just hold on for x more years and it may become a little bit easier".
Losing at least 3-10% of your weight at any point has health benefits, even after regain. And the less exposure a person has to high BMI throughout their life the better their odds are:
Even if I do end up regaining, my efforts are not wasted. Not only is it life experience on what causes me to fail, but it's also not a "failure" by any means. In addition to that, it's better for me to restart weight loss than to "give up".
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This is why I get really frustrated when I hear experts spout negativity regarding exercise. Exercise creates a positive feedback where the individual will see direct performance results from losing/gaining weight. Exercise, while not essential to loss, has shown to be absolutely critical in maintenance. Sure there are outliers who lost and maintain without exercise, but this is exceptionally rare.
One of the critical factors in success that is often overlooked is for people to get past all the mountainous disinformation out there. What results on MFP is some interesting thread watching, and several misinformed people with hurt feeling once myths regarding cleanses, clean eating, etc. are dispelled.0 -
This is why I get really frustrated when I hear experts spout negativity regarding exercise. Exercise creates a positive feedback where the individual will see direct performance results from losing/gaining weight. Exercise, while not essential to loss, has shown to be absolutely critical in maintenance.
And the odds are that you aren't going to exercise in maintenance if you didn't build the habit during weight loss.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »flamingblades wrote: »If you return to old habits, OF COURSE you will gain it back. I think changing ones lifestyle and dump the pizza and braughtworst, and trade it for lean chicken and fish, beans and low carb foods as well as a great workout at least 3 days a week or more. Good things are bound to happen. You shed the old you and leave it behind you, never to return. It can be done, I am living proof.
There is nothing wrong with pizza. In my experience those who try to continue the elimination diets into the never ending maintenance are not very successful.
I like the idea that eliminating bratwurst = a major lifestyle change. I didn't know that many people were that into bratwurst before. Maybe we are all from Wisconsin?
I also agree about the being nothing wrong with pizza, of course. (Or bratwurst, which I eat occasionally, about as often as I ever did. It's just not something I think of that often.)
Here in Germany we've got charcoal grills where fresh Bratwurst is made on every corner. It's paradise on earth.
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stevencloser wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »flamingblades wrote: »If you return to old habits, OF COURSE you will gain it back. I think changing ones lifestyle and dump the pizza and braughtworst, and trade it for lean chicken and fish, beans and low carb foods as well as a great workout at least 3 days a week or more. Good things are bound to happen. You shed the old you and leave it behind you, never to return. It can be done, I am living proof.
There is nothing wrong with pizza. In my experience those who try to continue the elimination diets into the never ending maintenance are not very successful.
I like the idea that eliminating bratwurst = a major lifestyle change. I didn't know that many people were that into bratwurst before. Maybe we are all from Wisconsin?
I also agree about the being nothing wrong with pizza, of course. (Or bratwurst, which I eat occasionally, about as often as I ever did. It's just not something I think of that often.)
Here in Germany we've got charcoal grills where fresh Bratwurst is made on every corner. It's paradise on earth.
I've been there and seen/smelled/eaten it and it is indeed beautiful *tear*
I love sausages of all kinds but can't justify them that often based on current activity level *tear*0 -
I think thats why its important to make healthy habits and continue to do so once you hit your goal weight. Not just oh hey, I'm going to diet like mad then eat like I did pre diet and not move my body and gain it back.
I know so much now about health that I didn't know when I started in the mid 300's. I didn't eat badly, no fast food or pop, not a lot of junk. What I did do was eat very large portions, every meal was to the point where I felt sore I was so full. That coupled with lack of movement, its easy to see how I got to where I was. 149 lbs down done by CICO and I keep learning. 80 lbs to go and I know once I hit it, I won't gain it back. I understand CICO out now and I actually kind of enjoy working out. Most importantly I DONT want to be how I was before again.
Healthy life VS diet, wins every time.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »flamingblades wrote: »If you return to old habits, OF COURSE you will gain it back. I think changing ones lifestyle and dump the pizza and braughtworst, and trade it for lean chicken and fish, beans and low carb foods as well as a great workout at least 3 days a week or more. Good things are bound to happen. You shed the old you and leave it behind you, never to return. It can be done, I am living proof.
There is nothing wrong with pizza. In my experience those who try to continue the elimination diets into the never ending maintenance are not very successful.
I like the idea that eliminating bratwurst = a major lifestyle change. I didn't know that many people were that into bratwurst before. Maybe we are all from Wisconsin?
Aside: I never ate bratwurst (brats) before I moved to Wisconsin, but they are pretty much a staple food here during summer grilling season. They are far superior to hot dogs and I feel sorry for those who don't have them readily available.
Yeah, I don't eat hot dogs much--although I will still fight anyone who claims that putting ketchup on one is ever acceptable, and of course Vienna beef is the only way to go--and sometimes do like polish sausage over brats, but I tend to agree that brats are superior.
I still eat them (all of the above, whichever is chosen) only at occasional summer cookouts and sporting events, though, so I find the idea that eliminating them would be a lifestyle change odd (I'd just have a burger, or like I said, a polish).
I understand you Wisconsinites have your own special ways, though. ;-)0 -
I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.0 -
levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
i dont think its arrogance at all. you still have to be mindful of what you are doing. same as my slimmer friends. you have to continually watch what you are doing. Whatever issues I complained about my nurse used to say i should lose weight. everything was weight related. I lost weight and i feel good. I exercise i feel good. I also like the way i look, i also like having lots of choice when i am shopping. I like being more active with my daughter. i like the new adventures moving from the couch brings me. SO all this is worth the effort.0 -
levitateme wrote: »I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
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levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
I'm sorry you've gone through all this. Nothing to be ridiculed over!0 -
levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
Only a fool would ridicule this. Bravo Zulu to you!0 -
levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
Thanks for being brave enough to post anyway. I know about anxiety, Paxil and Xanax. I haven't needed the latter recently but I have every reason to believe the Paxil will be a constant in my life. It is hard work to get the anxiety under control, sometimes you think you have it and then BAM. I had to get the anxiety under control before I even wanted to lose weight. You should be given high praise to be at the weight you are now and to have the desire to continue the battle.0 -
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
did you mention you were a lawyer? you definitely sound like a lawyer
aaaaand this is where I realize that I'm on here too much (!)0 -
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
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Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
I didn't ask if you were practicing. I was just wondering if betting was legal because I had heard that it wasn't, but have no idea where I heard that.0 -
The person above you asked if I was a lawyer, so I answered.DeguelloTex wrote: »
Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
I didn't ask if you were practicing. I was just wondering if betting was legal because I had heard that it wasn't, but have no idea where I heard that.
Gambling/betting laws are hardly uniform across the U.S.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
The person above you asked if I was a lawyer, so I answered.DeguelloTex wrote: »
Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
I didn't ask if you were practicing. I was just wondering if betting was legal because I had heard that it wasn't, but have no idea where I heard that.
Sorry for intrusive questioning - I just remembered you mentioning something about law, recently, and noted your confidence in comments here. I really am on here too much!
I think it's best for *everyone* to approach weight loss - or any project - with the belief that they can succeed. Some people obviously do succeed, so why can't it be you (generic you)? Nothing ventured, nothing gained (or lost, in this case).
(Well it might not be you if you're not doing things in ways that will actually help you now and in the longer term, so obviously, people should get good information on that, and not rely on quick fixes, for example. But if you follow good advice, no reason it can't be you.)0 -
I didn't consider it intrusive. I'd mentioned it already, so it's fair game.DeguelloTex wrote: »
The person above you asked if I was a lawyer, so I answered.DeguelloTex wrote: »
Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
I didn't ask if you were practicing. I was just wondering if betting was legal because I had heard that it wasn't, but have no idea where I heard that.
Sorry for intrusive questioning - I just remembered you mentioning something about law, recently, and noted your confidence in comments here. I really am on here too much!
I think it's best for *everyone* to approach weight loss - or any project - with the belief that they can succeed. Some people obviously do succeed, so why can't it be you (generic you)? Nothing ventured, nothing gained (or lost, in this case).
(Well it might not be you if you're not doing things in ways that will actually help you now and in the longer term, so obviously, people should get good information on that, and not rely on quick fixes, for example. But if you follow good advice, no reason it can't be you.)
"I can't do this" probably isn't the best way to start many projects.
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levitateme wrote: »I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
This is the main thing that got to me in this post. Any others who have been here a while who can comment on this?0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »
I didn't consider it intrusive. I'd mentioned it already, so it's fair game.DeguelloTex wrote: »
The person above you asked if I was a lawyer, so I answered.DeguelloTex wrote: »
Texas defines gambling as being decided in whole or part by chance. This wouldn't be chance. It could easily be defined as some type of performance contract.
Would that be legal?DeguelloTex wrote: »
It's not arrogance, it's fact. If you can find a reasonable escrow agent, I'll give 2:1 odds to whomever wants to bet against me over the next, say, five years.levitateme wrote: »I will probably get ridiculed for this post, but whatever.
I have binge eating disorder. I have also lost weight (30-80 lbs) at least 7 times in the past 12 years. I always gain it back because sooner or later BED takes over my brain and I binge for like 3 months straight. I am feeling good right now, and losing weight. I lost 30 lbs last year (from January to September) and thought that would be the last time because I was very into lifting. I thought that strength gains were enough motivation to hold it together. I wanted so badly to break out of that regain statistic and be in the 10%. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
Once I had lost the weight I wanted to, I quit smoking which sent me into a nervous breakdown (for real, and to all the "sugar addiction" people, you minimize my experience by perpetuating nonsense) and was prescribed xanax and paxil, which helped my anxiety but made me into a hungry sloth. Finally, I stopped lifting which was the sword in the heart. Everything went to hell for me and I ended up at 13 lbs higher than my original starting weight.
I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
I'm not saying no one should ever try. If I hadn't taken the time to lose the weight all those times, I would probably be 400 lbs right now. I'm just saying, don't be so arrogant to think that you are going to be perfect or that it can't happen to you. All I can do is work towards my goal and hope that this time I can trust my brain when I get there.
And, no, I no longer practice law.
I didn't ask if you were practicing. I was just wondering if betting was legal because I had heard that it wasn't, but have no idea where I heard that.
Sorry for intrusive questioning - I just remembered you mentioning something about law, recently, and noted your confidence in comments here. I really am on here too much!
I think it's best for *everyone* to approach weight loss - or any project - with the belief that they can succeed. Some people obviously do succeed, so why can't it be you (generic you)? Nothing ventured, nothing gained (or lost, in this case).
(Well it might not be you if you're not doing things in ways that will actually help you now and in the longer term, so obviously, people should get good information on that, and not rely on quick fixes, for example. But if you follow good advice, no reason it can't be you.)
"I can't do this" probably isn't the best way to start many projects.
Ah good
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I don't log when I'm maintaining, only when trying to lose or gain.DuckReconMajor wrote: »levitateme wrote: »I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
This is the main thing that got to me in this post. Any others who have been here a while who can comment on this?
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DuckReconMajor wrote: »levitateme wrote: »I have been around these boards long enough to know that there are many people who are gone. There was a thread like this last year, and everyone always insists that they will not ever go back. Most of the people who insisted that they were the 10% now have inactive accounts. I mean, they *could* be maintaining without MFP, but honestly, a formerly overweight person needs to monitor their food forever to maintain.
This is the main thing that got to me in this post. Any others who have been here a while who can comment on this?
Check out the Introduction or Getting Started section. Every day, someone will post that they lost and regained and are losing again, it gets so depressing to read all the "life happened" posts that you need your armor on to read it sometimes.
However, I don't think that leaving MFP means people are gaining weight. They might be logging elsewhere, done losing or just done logging. You don't have to log to lose or maintain, so bailing on this place isn't an indication that they're fat again, I don't think. I know one poster left for personal reasons. She's not getting fat.
But obviously, as I said before (and which some disagree with), some people in this thread who are sure they won't regain the weight are going to regain weight. We aren't ALL exceptions.
I really think it won't be me, just like the rest, but it's going to be someone. Plans, plans and more plans for me! But then, the best laid plans of mice and men...
I think I'm going to hang a sign in the master bath to remind myself to care EVERY DAY. Of course if I didn't care, then I suppose I'd just take the sign down, lol.
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I am coming into this thread a little late and haven't read it all but I do need to say one thing. Since I have been here I have often come under fire for talking about healthy food and are repeatedly told "there is no such thing as good or bad foods." I do not believe this for one second. I have been thin all my life and it is only now as I approach 60 that I find myself slightly overweight. I simply eat too much and have dropped my rule and introduced some processed foods into my diet.
I believe and have seen it numerous times over my life ( and I am not remotely interested in backing this up with studies, data or such) that people on diets, be it Weight Watchers, Paleo, Atkins, MFP or any other diet which restricts calories, will be successful and lose weight. CICO and exercise will produce the desired weight loss and then the dieter will maintain for a certain amount of time but gradually they start to increase the amount of food they eat, one cola, take away burger, cake or packet of crisps at a time and will eventually regain the weight.
Now the small percentage of people who maintain and don't regain the weight are those who reduced their intake of food, exercised, changed their bad eating habits, ate healthy food, (chicken, meat, fish, vegetables, fruit) and did not return to eating sugary and highly processed, unnatural foods.
I think the "CICO and exercise" advice given on here is correct, however, I believe "the eat what you like as long as it fits into your calories for the day" and "there is no such thing as bad food" advice is flawed.
Good health and stable weight comes down to good nutrition and I genuinely believe that the people on this site are incredibly brave in their struggles and I wish them every success in being the one to prove the statistics wrong.0 -
I am coming into this thread a little late and haven't read it all but I do need to say one thing. Since I have been here I have often come under fire for talking about healthy food and are repeatedly told "there is no such thing as good or bad foods." I do not believe this for one second. I have been thin all my life and it is only now as I approach 60 that I find myself slightly overweight. I simply eat too much and have dropped my rule and introduced some processed foods into my diet.
I believe and have seen it numerous times over my life ( and I am not remotely interested in backing this up with studies, data or such) that people on diets, be it Weight Watchers, Paleo, Atkins, MFP or any other diet which restricts calories, will be successful and lose weight. CICO and exercise will produce the desired weight loss and then the dieter will maintain for a certain amount of time but gradually they start to increase the amount of food they eat, one cola, take away burger, cake or packet of crisps at a time and will eventually regain the weight.
Now the small percentage of people who maintain and don't regain the weight are those who reduced their intake of food, exercised, changed their bad eating habits, ate healthy food, (chicken, meat, fish, vegetables, fruit) and did not return to eating sugary and highly processed, unnatural foods.
I think the "CICO and exercise" advice given on here is correct, however, I believe "the eat what you like as long as it fits into your calories for the day" and "there is no such thing as bad food" advice is flawed.
Good health and stable weight comes down to good nutrition and I genuinely believe that the people on this site are incredibly brave in their struggles and I wish them every success in being the one to prove the statistics wrong.
The thing is, this is your personal experience (and I respect it). It can't be generalized. I for example I gained most of my weight and reached a weight of more than 300 pounds eating predominantly what you classify as healthy. I ate out or ordered delivery maybe 2-3 times a year and had sugary or salty snacks maybe once every 2-3 weeks. Cola and sugary drinks were, and still are, so low on my priority list that I only had/have it if it happens to be presented to me with a meal. One serving of ice cream has always been enough for me.
I ate that way not because I had a rule, but because that's my preference in food. In fact I now consume more "processed foods" than I did when I was super obese because I'm more busy now than I was then and some processed foods are conveniently portion controlled. I am now 100 pounds lighter than I was before.
I may be an outlier, but this only shows that how much you eat, not what you eat, is what causes one to gain weight... and that introducing more "bad foods" does not automatically mean weight gain. The only difference between me and someone who lives on pizza and cola is that we have different preferences and cultural upbringing so we both happen to overindulge in the foods we are accustomed to - which in their case is "junk food".0
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