Working Hard W/ Personal Trainer. No weight loss. HELP
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afroamericawriter wrote: »Hi, as a person who's worked with a personal trainer off and on I understand your frustration. I'd tell you some of the things my trainer told me just a couple of months ago. Your body needs time to adjust to a new exercise regimen so give b/w 10 to 14 days to weigh yourself.
Also, your body is changing in its composition with all the hardwork, it just takes time to show in numbers. This helped me A LOT cuz after 6 weks with a trainer, the scale showed I gained weight by two pounds but my skirts and jeans were loose. Yes I wanted the scale to show just then and was a bit angry at myself but I continued the insight I gained. Up the cardio, watched the sugar/sodium intake (more sugar for me) and avoided scale for THREE WEEKS. When I finally weighed myself, I saw the weight loss in numbers.
I'm not sure if you have an exercise tracker synced with MFP (it showed 0 on exercise in your diary) to give you accurate goal to eat because you might even be under eating and that way your body stores the calories you're giving as opposed to burning which doesn't reflect in weight loss.
no. Under eating does not result in stalled weight/weight gain.0 -
I see a diary full of unweighed entries, and "weighed" entries that are clearly incorrect.
No mystery here - your logging is broken and you're eating a lot more than you think.
This. Do not use cups, use a scale. If you need to log something premade by someone else and you cannot get the ingredients, then use at least the "worst" scenario you can find logged. It looks like you could easily be at 1800 instead of 1400 calories based on your entries.0 -
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kjramirezz wrote: »Hi guys,I gained about 50 lbs after my thyroid went a little out of wack but got my correct meds a couple months ago.
I have Hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroid disease), and I lost more slowly than most MFPers—so be patient! But I did it just like everybody else—by learning to log everything I eat & drink accurately & honestly. Logging is simple, but it ain't easy. Logging works.0 -
The author has no medical or scientific credentials. Kinda like Kevin Trudeau. Education means learning from authorities who are actual experts in the field.I too have a non/ low functioning thyroid. You need to read this and educate yourself. Synthroid/ levothyroxine is not what we need.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com
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A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Sorry OP. There aren't usually so many crackpots in a thread.
1. It took you a lifetime to get to your weight. Expecting massive results in 2 weeks is unreasonable. Keep eating well, working out and having a significant calorie deficit and you WILL get results. Weight loss isn't linear. You will have ups and downs even if you do everything right. Don't get discouraged.
2. If someone else made you a porkchop and you called it 280 calories you are probably off by 50% (unless it was cooked plain with the fat trimmed). Maybe more. Others used the banana example as it could easily be off 35%. This only works if you are honest with yourself. If you look for something close without many calories you are only lying to yourself.
3. Be careful with sodium. A lot of times people initially cutting calories replace lost taste from salt. Salt makes you retain water. Water retention makes you weigh more.
4. If all this fails, the thyroid issue could be impacting your metabolic rate. See a Dr after a month or 6 weeks of hard work with no results. People like to start at this point but it is still highly doubtful it is having the impact you fear.0 -
Join the thyroid group here on MFP.
You have not been on thyroid meds long enough to get their full benefit yet, and you are probably not yet on the dose that will properly maintain you. Have patience. Once your dose is at its final level you will see results, but it has to be raised slowly because if a doc raised it in big leaps they might over-shoot and that can cause dangerous heart arrhythmias until the level is lowered again.
Working out doesn't build muscle--it sends the signal to the body to build muscle. The actual building occurs during the rest between work-outs. It's not unusual for muscles to retain some extra water to have around to work with during these build phases. So short-term water-weight gain is really common and doesn't mean anything is wrong.
Being hypothyroid means for months to years your body has not been getting the iodine it needs to function and build muscle and other tissues. It is as though you had a severe case of malnutrition. With that in mind, when I was diagnosed, I gave myself 6 months to eat anything I wanted without concern for weight (though I did exercise), and took vitamins, to give my body a little time to re-model itself with an overabundance of every nutrient including iodine that it could possibly need. Consider setting a 6 month goal of weight maintenance and exercise, before starting on the weight loss effort.0 -
kjramirezz wrote: »looking over your diary it looks like you are not using correct database entries. Two days ago you had 9 ounces of pork chops and your diary says that was 297 calories…9 ounces of pork chops is about 500 calories.
also, you have "medium banana" logged, but you should really be weighing that in grams.
I would suggest cross checking your MFP database entries against this site:http://nutritiondata.self.com
Thanks. sometimes its a little hard cuz its food that some one else cooked and I can weigh it but I still have to guess or pick something that is in my fitnesspal already. I will definitely use that site
Also, look for the system-generated entries rather than user generated entries. One giveaway is that they usually have a longer description and more units of weight.
9.15 ounces of tenderloin is 521 calories. Not sure if chops come from tenderloin, which is, I believe, the least fatty cut of pork.
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looking over your diary it looks like you are not using correct database entries. Two days ago you had 9 ounces of pork chops and your diary says that was 297 calories…9 ounces of pork chops is about 500 calories.
also, you have "medium banana" logged, but you should really be weighing that in grams.
I would suggest cross checking your MFP database entries against this site:http://nutritiondata.self.com
This. I'm seeing entries in there that are definitely off. That pork chop entry...
OP - I would tighten up that diary - log everything everyday (I see unlogged days and days where you defintely didn't log everything), use entries you confirm are correct (the new "verified" system is a pile of steaming sh**, so don't go by that), and weigh your food more consistently (with a scale, not cups/spoons).0 -
PS: use caution with web based thyroid information sites. Not everyone needs T3 with their T4--you only need it if your peripheral conversion of T4 to T3 is impaired (check by measuring T3). If you take T3 when you don't need it, within only a couple of days your peripheral conversion rate will be down-regulated, which makes getting OFF T3 difficult. T3 has a short half-life in blood, so to be appropriately effective T3 should be taken on a schedule 4 times a day, which is a pain in the *kitten*. People taking non-recombinant T4/T3 combos from animal sources do get T3, but if they are not dosing multiple times a day their T3 levels are going up and down like a yo-yo. What is more, the non-recombinant sources of thyroid hormone are animal T4 & T3, which are not identical to human T4& T3, marginally increasing the risk of developing antibodies to T4 in people who don't already have T4 antibodies as part of their existing disease.
I guess I'm saying the web can help you judge whether your doc has a clue what's going on in the world of thyroid disease management, but only an actual doc, not the web, can tell you which meds are the right ones for you.0 -
What in the unholy f*** is going on in this thread? I see nonsense about cleanses, starvation mode, webwoo...0
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You have not been on thyroid meds long enough to get their full benefit yet, and you are probably not yet on the dose that will properly maintain you. Have patience. Once your dose is at its final level you will see results.
I have Hashimoto's, and I lost the weight long before my thyroid levels ever entered the "normal" range.
OP, weight loss takes a whole lot of trial and error to find what works for you. But "tighten up your logging" is never the wrong answer.0 -
PPS: Also, not everyone with a thyroid problem has an adrenal problem. Primary hypothyroidism is due to the thyroid gland failing, but some people have secondary hypothyroidism which is due to their pituitary gland failing. The pituitary is the gland that sends out TSH and also signals to the adrenals for cortisol (a steroid) and adrenaline production. The two situations are very different and so if you have primary disease and your friend has secondary disease, your med lists may be very different. It doesn't mean either one of you is mis-managed, it means you actually have different diseases even though the thyroid aspects of your symptoms are the same.
Having thyroid disease doesn't necessarily mean that you need any "adrenal support". But sometimes it does. Unfortunately there's a lot of "snake oil" salesmen selling the "adrenal support" idea, and worthless "nutri-ceuticals", to hypothyroid people who don't have an associated adrenal problem.
Sorry for beating a dead zebra on this issue. It just pisses me off when people manipulate the health fears of others for personal profit. The site listed above doesn't look too bad on first glance but you really have to be careful to verify what you read with academic sources that don't potentially have a sales-agenda behind them.
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With Hypothyroidism you will lose the weigh slower than someone with a normal functioning thyroid.0
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ncboiler89 wrote: »looking over your diary it looks like you are not using correct database entries. Two days ago you had 9 ounces of pork chops and your diary says that was 297 calories…9 ounces of pork chops is about 500 calories.
also, you have "medium banana" logged, but you should really be weighing that in grams.
I would suggest cross checking your MFP database entries against this site:http://nutritiondata.self.com
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I see a diary full of unweighed entries, and "weighed" entries that are clearly incorrect.
No mystery here - your logging is broken and you're eating a lot more than you think.
This. Do not use cups, use a scale. If you need to log something premade by someone else and you cannot get the ingredients, then use at least the "worst" scenario you can find logged. It looks like you could easily be at 1800 instead of 1400 calories based on your entries.
I agree, especially with solid foods. Cereal is usually measured in "cups" along with a mass in parenthesis. Always go by the mass of everything solid, because there is so much variability with how solid foods arrange themselves. Ever try measuring a cup of broccoli? Throw some cloves in a measuring cup and tell me what it looks like. Only use cups and spoons with liquids, such as oils or drinks.
Weight loss is Calories in, Calories out. After two weeks, you should see results. None of that other nonsense applies. Your body does not need "time to adjust" to a workout before you lose weight, if you are drinking enough water. When I drink enough water, I lose weight. When I don't, I tend to gain a few. So, I would conclude that you are underestimating your food content, or not drinking enough water for your activity level and environment.0 -
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Hi - Good luck as you embark on this journey. People here have given great points about accurate food measures, which is essential to know your calorie intake. They also suggest why the scale may not have budged.
I would like to share something else. Do not use the scale as your only measure of progress. Get out the measuring tape, take photos and pull out a few pieces of clothing that are snug and follow your progress with those metrics, too.
I have been on MFP since Christmas and have managed to loose nearly 30 lbs (trying to keep them off, now). However, I am terribly sorry that I never took photos or body measurements. As a result, there have been times when I have just let myself get totally freaked out by the scale - even though I intellectually understand that weight loss is not consistently linear from day to day or even week to week.
Another thing - the first month or so was the toughest for me. I had to become accustomed to not feeling "really full" and understand that this is not a reason to eat more. Someone posted that using a "satiety scale" from 1-10, their nutritionist advised them never to be hungrier than a 3 and never more full than a 7. That is a tool that is especially helpful when adjusting our eating habits.
Good luck and learn from those here who have succeeded!0 -
Are you logging fats? For the scrambled eggs, are you cooking them in butter or oil? And the two pieces of bread in the morning - putting butter or jam on them? It all adds up!0
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tincanonastring wrote: »What in the unholy f*** is going on in this thread? I see nonsense about cleanses, starvation mode, webwoo...
Nobody wants the straightforward answer...0 -
IsaackGMOON wrote: »Same thing happens to me. When I'm working out hard, I lose zero weight. When I do no excercise, I lose weight. This is with keeping to 1200 calories the whole time. I've been told it has to do with water retention from sweating and muscle repair. It's super frustrating. I feel your pain!
No way that you're building muscle at 1200 calories. It could very well be water retention... but I reckon you were eating more than you thought you were.
Caloric deficit = weight loss
Exercise = fitness
It helps to actually read comments before disputing them. She said water retention and muscle repair, which DEFINITELY happens when working out even if you're eating at a deficit.0
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