Low carbs or low fats?

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stevencloser

m13a wrote: »

A new study just came out and is being reported on that low fat is actually better than low carb in terms of shedding more body fat. I'm not sure about the validity of all of this and would be interested in seeing these results duplicated elsewhere but it might be worth looking into.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-33905745

If true, it seems that the low carb craze is not the most effective in accomplishing what most of us want - a healthier body mainly through the loss of body fat.

In the article they do highlight that any sort of strict diet can be difficult to maintain and, of course, losing weight through a moderate calorie deficit is a great thing to do, regardless. But if your goal is to get more fat off - low carb may not be the way to go.

The study actually doesn't say that.

First rule: never trust what a news article says about any "new study". Ever.

Riz72

LolaKarwowski wrote: »

slaite1 wrote: »

Macros have zero effect on fat loss. Competitors tweak macros before a show to manipulate their water levels. Hence, dropping carbs during "peak week" and carbing up before a show. Also some are just making it unnecessarily complicated-just like people do for weightloss.

15% body fat is pretty low. Keep lifting, and keep at your recomp. Eat enough protein and the rest is preference. Give it time.

Looks like I'll be keeping everything the same. I had no idea how much effort + dedication went into getting your body fat % that low. Thank you all for your informative answers. I've learned so much!

like everyone else here, I think you're doing a pretty good job with your macros. I kind of had the same initial success when I dropped 20 pounds.

Now I'm focusing on lifting more which will add strength and thus help burn more fat.

But look how much you've already lost! Stay patient, if you're see the results (albeit slower), I say stick with it.

m13a

stevencloser wrote: »

m13a wrote: »

A new study just came out and is being reported on that low fat is actually better than low carb in terms of shedding more body fat. I'm not sure about the validity of all of this and would be interested in seeing these results duplicated elsewhere but it might be worth looking into.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-33905745

If true, it seems that the low carb craze is not the most effective in accomplishing what most of us want - a healthier body mainly through the loss of body fat.

In the article they do highlight that any sort of strict diet can be difficult to maintain and, of course, losing weight through a moderate calorie deficit is a great thing to do, regardless. But if your goal is to get more fat off - low carb may not be the way to go.

The study actually doesn't say that.

First rule: never trust what a news article says about any "new study". Ever.

Then what does the study say? I'm trying to understand but what is your understanding of it?

And if you could, please link me to the study itself? I tried searching for it but could only find all the reports from different sources saying this.

Lilyeana

It takes a lot of effort for women to see abs. That being said, I'm going the low carb route. I do Keto, 20 grams of carbs or less daily. Im in a similar boat as you...roughly 135 - prob around 23% body fat, the last 10lbs just don't want to come off...or I don't want to hit the gym that hard.

stevencloser

m13a wrote: »

stevencloser wrote: »

m13a wrote: »

A new study just came out and is being reported on that low fat is actually better than low carb in terms of shedding more body fat. I'm not sure about the validity of all of this and would be interested in seeing these results duplicated elsewhere but it might be worth looking into.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-33905745

If true, it seems that the low carb craze is not the most effective in accomplishing what most of us want - a healthier body mainly through the loss of body fat.

In the article they do highlight that any sort of strict diet can be difficult to maintain and, of course, losing weight through a moderate calorie deficit is a great thing to do, regardless. But if your goal is to get more fat off - low carb may not be the way to go.

The study actually doesn't say that.

First rule: never trust what a news article says about any "new study". Ever.

Then what does the study say? I'm trying to understand but what is your understanding of it?

And if you could, please link me to the study itself? I tried searching for it but could only find all the reports from different sources saying this.

In short, it showed that you can lose fat without touching your carb macro (which some people claim is necessary). The low fat diet did indeed lose more fat, but that was within expected differences, and they said that over the long term, they should even out.
I can't link the study because I'm not at my PC right now, but there's at least two threads about it somewhere here.

m13a

stevencloser wrote: »

m13a wrote: »

stevencloser wrote: »

m13a wrote: »

A new study just came out and is being reported on that low fat is actually better than low carb in terms of shedding more body fat. I'm not sure about the validity of all of this and would be interested in seeing these results duplicated elsewhere but it might be worth looking into.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-33905745

If true, it seems that the low carb craze is not the most effective in accomplishing what most of us want - a healthier body mainly through the loss of body fat.

In the article they do highlight that any sort of strict diet can be difficult to maintain and, of course, losing weight through a moderate calorie deficit is a great thing to do, regardless. But if your goal is to get more fat off - low carb may not be the way to go.

The study actually doesn't say that.

First rule: never trust what a news article says about any "new study". Ever.

Then what does the study say? I'm trying to understand but what is your understanding of it?

And if you could, please link me to the study itself? I tried searching for it but could only find all the reports from different sources saying this.

In short, it showed that you can lose fat without touching your carb macro (which some people claim is necessary). The low fat diet did indeed lose more fat, but that was within expected differences, and they said that over the long term, they should even out.
I can't link the study because I'm not at my PC right now, but there's at least two threads about it somewhere here.

Right. Well then that is in line with a good portion of what I said. So it may not be that low fat is better for you but that, at the very least, low carb is not something that is particularly beneficial.

ScreeField

great job! Looks like you have had a lot of success already.

I wouldn't worry too much about ratios as long as your energy levels are good. There's a whole lot more to food than macros. Just recently I did a quick survey of research on this topic (causes of increased waist circumference/methods of decreasing waist circumference) and found that some of the best results reported were from: 1) consistent weight training, 2) increasing activity in general, 3) reducing/eliminating consumption of fatty meats, soft drinks, cigarettes, and alcohol. Sorry--I didn't write down the articles and I didn't spend a lot of time on them either--I recall a couple were from Spain, but that's about it.

and, just from experience (since I'm a woman, my body likes to be about 120 lbs and I have been below 18% bf a number of times) the times in my life that I saw the most "ab" (and least muffin top) were 1) when I was lifting heavy and consistently (all weight training, no cardio), 2) when I was training for a half marathon (all cardio, no weight training), and 3) during the summers when I was riding my bike 20+ miles per day, 5 days a week. I was pretty much eating whatever when doing the half training and biking, and ate a bit more protein during the weight lifting--but nothing excessive. When I tried to up protein intake to more than .8 grams / kg of body weight I felt awful.

goldthistime

Study itself:
http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(15)00350-2

Thread discussing the study:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10234055/low-carb-diet-has-been-debunked/p1