Using Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) to Track Diet Progress
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Thanks, and you are right. I read the publication Friday.fyoung1111 wrote: »You will probably find this interesting: http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(15)00350-2
It has gotten a lot of media coverage although little analysis. I personally am not willing to conclude anything about a diet that lasts 6 days.
As for methods, I hope they follow-up their pilot study with one that measures fat loss rather than gross weight.
My individual bias is to eat a balanced diet of vegetables, protein, mostly complex carbs and low-moderate healthy fats. In general though, I avoid the circus of 'good' this or 'bad' that.
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sheldonklein wrote: »Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, you misunderstand the relationship between BMR and weight loss. Simply stated, there is no relationship. You lose or gain weight based on whether you are under or over your TDEE. BMR is a factor in calculating TDEE, but otherwise it is irrelevant to weight loss.
If you eat at your BMR, you are guaranteed to lose weight, unless you're in a coma.
That's the connection.
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Just in case your statement is referencing my OP, let me state, again, that I was not recommending that caloric intake equal BMR. Or any specific intake for that matter. Or any diet.If you eat at your BMR, you are guaranteed to lose weight, unless you're in a coma.
ALL I tried to show was that the MFP program will do the arithmetic for you and show net calories if you set the daily calorie goal to the BMR. It is a simple notion, posted for new dieters who may not be familiar with BMR. The OP also includes the disclaimer that this is true for people who are sedentary outside of exercise; people with substantial daily activities (calorie wise) can add that amount to the daily goal for the same useful accounting.
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sheldonklein wrote: »Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, you misunderstand the relationship between BMR and weight loss. Simply stated, there is no relationship. You lose or gain weight based on whether you are under or over your TDEE. BMR is a factor in calculating TDEE, but otherwise it is irrelevant to weight loss.
If you eat at your BMR, you are guaranteed to lose weight, unless you're in a coma.
That's the connection.
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I am an accountant and love to play with numbers. But your calculations remind me of coworkers who spend $150 of time to solve 15 cent problems. Unnecessary and a waste of time.0
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sheldonklein wrote: »Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, you misunderstand the relationship between BMR and weight loss. Simply stated, there is no relationship. You lose or gain weight based on whether you are under or over your TDEE. BMR is a factor in calculating TDEE, but otherwise it is irrelevant to weight loss.
If you eat at your BMR, you are guaranteed to lose weight, unless you're in a coma.
That's the connection.
yup, what he said.0 -
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1. ClickI am an accountant and love to play with numbers. But your calculations remind me of coworkers who spend $150 of time to solve 15 cent problems. Unnecessary and a waste of time.
2. Type in age, weight and height, and pick a sex
3. Copy BMR number that pops up
4. Paste that number into MFP's daily calorie goal.
Done.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is easy -- even for an accountant.
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ericGold15 wrote: »
1. ClickI am an accountant and love to play with numbers. But your calculations remind me of coworkers who spend $150 of time to solve 15 cent problems. Unnecessary and a waste of time.
2. Type in age, weight and height, and pick a sex
3. Copy BMR number that pops up
4. Paste that number into MFP's daily calorie goal.
Done.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is easy -- even for an accountant.ericGold15 wrote: »
Just in case your statement is referencing my OP, let me state, again, that I was not recommending that caloric intake equal BMR. Or any specific intake for that matter. Or any diet.If you eat at your BMR, you are guaranteed to lose weight, unless you're in a coma.
ALL I tried to show was that the MFP program will do the arithmetic for you and show net calories if you set the daily calorie goal to the BMR. It is a simple notion, posted for new dieters who may not be familiar with BMR. The OP also includes the disclaimer that this is true for people who are sedentary outside of exercise; people with substantial daily activities (calorie wise) can add that amount to the daily goal for the same useful accounting.ericGold15 wrote: »
1. ClickI am an accountant and love to play with numbers. But your calculations remind me of coworkers who spend $150 of time to solve 15 cent problems. Unnecessary and a waste of time.
2. Type in age, weight and height, and pick a sex
3. Copy BMR number that pops up
4. Paste that number into MFP's daily calorie goal.
Done.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is easy -- even for an accountant.
You aren't advocating people eat their BMR yet say to copy BMR as the daily caloric goal ... there is a logical disconnect in your posts.0 -
Read the opening post. It is clear if you take a moment to think about it.brianpperkins wrote: »You aren't advocating people eat their BMR yet say to copy BMR as the daily caloric goal ... there is a logical disconnect in your posts.
You are right though, setting the daily goal number to the BMR changes its meaning. Now you follow the NET CALORIES. Which kind of makes sense, wouldn't you say ?
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ericGold15 wrote: »
Read the opening post. It is clear if you take a moment to think about it.brianpperkins wrote: »You aren't advocating people eat their BMR yet say to copy BMR as the daily caloric goal ... there is a logical disconnect in your posts.
You are right though, setting the daily goal number to the BMR changes its meaning. Now you follow the NET CALORIES. Which kind of makes sense, wouldn't you say ?
Your inability to use simple terms as they are defined makes all of your posts in this thread senseless. Your constant self contradiction undermines any point you think you're trying to make ... although you've failed to make one yet.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »ericGold15 wrote: »
Read the opening post. It is clear if you take a moment to think about it.brianpperkins wrote: »You aren't advocating people eat their BMR yet say to copy BMR as the daily caloric goal ... there is a logical disconnect in your posts.
You are right though, setting the daily goal number to the BMR changes its meaning. Now you follow the NET CALORIES. Which kind of makes sense, wouldn't you say ?
Your inability to use simple terms as they are defined makes all of your posts in this thread senseless. Your constant self contradiction undermines any point you think you're trying to make ... although you've failed to make one yet.
Thanks for saving me the trouble of making an accurate and necessary, but harsh, comment.0
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