Does high calorie food you used to eat disgust you?
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What is your definition of "demonize" as it applies to food? What is food demonization?For those that are disgusted, what sort of things are you disgusted about, give everyone an insight?
I can honestly say I have never been disgusted by what ive eaten, even if it was just chcolate and chips all day or fast food. I would laugh at how unbalanced it was, but this idea of disgust doesnt compute unless it was some vile combination of food or youd resorted to licking out bins?
This idea of demonising food, guilt and generally beating yourself up is all a bit counter productive. Lots of those calorie dense, nutritionallt low foods still taste as good as they ever did.
As for insight, I think the disgust has been well-described. After your tastes change, you eat something you used to like a lot, like KFC, and realize that it doesn't taste good and is kinda gross. I used to think it tasted like chicken. Maybe a little greasy, but good. Then I tasted it again and it tasted like salt. The chicken is slimy. I'm like, "How could I have liked this?! It's gross!" I don't know if that qualifies as disgust, but I'm kind of disgusted by that stuff.
But, for me, it wasn't something I created. It was something that just happened.
Been in the gym and just going back so not fully on this.
Demonization would be the approach that somehow food is good or bad, where for me its just food. Nutritious or less nutritious would be okish if we arent discussing the exact make up. Along with that goes feelings of guilt and that people have done something wrong, which is quite common. I can go with your version of disgust (changing taste), but its all a bit emo for me, its just food and not something i can get worked up about. As ive reintroduced things back into my diet I havent managed to find any of them disgusting, but maybe not the best use of calories. Things I enjoyed then I can still enjoy.
Btw funny you and tomatoey should mention KFC. I quite fancied a bargain bucket but have held off. If it does prove to be underwhelming, then I guess I will just move to making my own. I definitely eat a lot less deep fried food these days.0 -
Some people who decide that certain foods they used to eat are now disgusting are like some born-agains and ex-smokers. Waaaaaay too self-righteous for me!
I love all the foods I always have. Just not so much of them.
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I still eat all the same things I did, just not as often. The only thing I wont touch is non-diet soda, because its just tooooo easy to get a tots of calories that do nothing to fill my belly...As far as food? How could anyone find this Blonde beer, bacon cheese burger, and tons with a side of ranch disgusting??? BTW You're all welcome :]
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I was just clarifying since you asked. Not asking you believe it or agree with it. Can't believe everything you read! Thanks for answering on the "demonization" thing.
What is your definition of "demonize" as it applies to food? What is food demonization?For those that are disgusted, what sort of things are you disgusted about, give everyone an insight?
I can honestly say I have never been disgusted by what ive eaten, even if it was just chcolate and chips all day or fast food. I would laugh at how unbalanced it was, but this idea of disgust doesnt compute unless it was some vile combination of food or youd resorted to licking out bins?
This idea of demonising food, guilt and generally beating yourself up is all a bit counter productive. Lots of those calorie dense, nutritionallt low foods still taste as good as they ever did.
As for insight, I think the disgust has been well-described. After your tastes change, you eat something you used to like a lot, like KFC, and realize that it doesn't taste good and is kinda gross. I used to think it tasted like chicken. Maybe a little greasy, but good. Then I tasted it again and it tasted like salt. The chicken is slimy. I'm like, "How could I have liked this?! It's gross!" I don't know if that qualifies as disgust, but I'm kind of disgusted by that stuff.
But, for me, it wasn't something I created. It was something that just happened.
Been in the gym and just going back so not fully on this.
Demonization would be the approach that somehow food is good or bad, where for me its just food. Nutritious or less nutritious would be okish if we arent discussing the exact make up. Along with that goes feelings of guilt and that people have done something wrong, which is quite common. I can go with your version of disgust (changing taste), but its all a bit emo for me, its just food and not something i can get worked up about. As ive reintroduced things back into my diet I havent managed to find any of them disgusting, but maybe not the best use of calories. Things I enjoyed then I can still enjoy.
I've heard people use "emo" before, but generally in conjunction with teens who wear black clothes and pale makeup and have a faux-jaded thing going on. Not sure what it means.
I'm not really "worked up" over KFC. I was just surprised by how much I didn't like it when I used to like it so much.
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What is your definition of "demonize" as it applies to food? What is food demonization?For those that are disgusted, what sort of things are you disgusted about, give everyone an insight?
I can honestly say I have never been disgusted by what ive eaten, even if it was just chcolate and chips all day or fast food. I would laugh at how unbalanced it was, but this idea of disgust doesnt compute unless it was some vile combination of food or youd resorted to licking out bins?
This idea of demonising food, guilt and generally beating yourself up is all a bit counter productive. Lots of those calorie dense, nutritionallt low foods still taste as good as they ever did.
As for insight, I think the disgust has been well-described. After your tastes change, you eat something you used to like a lot, like KFC, and realize that it doesn't taste good and is kinda gross. I used to think it tasted like chicken. Maybe a little greasy, but good. Then I tasted it again and it tasted like salt. The chicken is slimy. I'm like, "How could I have liked this?! It's gross!" I don't know if that qualifies as disgust, but I'm kind of disgusted by that stuff.
But, for me, it wasn't something I created. It was something that just happened.
Been in the gym and just going back so not fully on this.
Demonization would be the approach that somehow food is good or bad, where for me its just food. Nutritious or less nutritious would be okish if we arent discussing the exact make up. Along with that goes feelings of guilt and that people have done something wrong, which is quite common. I can go with your version of disgust (changing taste), but its all a bit emo for me, its just food and not something i can get worked up about. As ive reintroduced things back into my diet I havent managed to find any of them disgusting, but maybe not the best use of calories. Things I enjoyed then I can still enjoy.
Btw funny you and tomatoey should mention KFC. I quite fancied a bargain bucket but have held off. If it does prove to be underwhelming, then I guess I will just move to making my own. I definitely eat a lot less deep fried food these days.
Hmm, do report back!
Somebody in that Reddit thread I linked to earlier suggested the coated feeling might be an effect related to the use of partially hydrogenated oil. Maybe that's part of it, some people are tasting that. And/or of course too much sugar or salt for taste. Taste buds become deadened over time if you load them up all the time (for spicy foods too), and pretty much most food manufacturers (and lots of restaurants) do use a lot of sugar and salt.
I don't experience guilt with food (ever) - for me any disgust isn't so much about anything "emo" as it is a sensory experience. It's like that with KFC in the same way it was when I was disgusted by a tilapia I ordered (at a supposedly great restaurant) that turned out to be cold and mushy and sad, with an equally sad and cold white sauce. That led to disgust, along with the more emo-ey feelings of disappointment and betrayal (bc of the many many good reviews this place got), and irritation (bc I spent good money on that lump of ew). I really wanted it to be good
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I'm sincerely trying to understand where you're coming from here. Just on the "You think you love a food, but you don't." I'm not arguing with the "You can't be disgusted by something you used to love" - if you don't believe it, you don't and that's cool.What is the difference between thinking you love a food and actually loving it?
I think there are certain foods we become conditioned to think we love. Donuts are an example for me. They're sweet and indulgent and feel like a treat so the idea of a donut always sounds appealing but for me at least, the reality of a donut is not as satisfying as a plate of cheese fries (a food I actually love). It's also about which foods are worth the calories. But in either scenario, donuts don't disgust me and my body doesn't shut down when I eat something junky just because I mostly eat healthy.
I guess I just find it hard to believe that people are disgusted by foods they used to love just because they've thrown a couple salads into their meal plan. Maybe some people just have weak digestive systems?
Did you think you loved donuts because you'd been conditioned to love them, but found out later that you'd been mistaken and never really loved them, after all?
I just don't get it. It would seem to me like if you think you love a food, you do, KWIM? I'm trying to figure out how thinking you love something is different than actually loving it. What am I missing?
Why do you think people are disgusted by foods they used to love?
I think there are a few theories, of which multiple ones may be true in different situations:
(1) Tastes change. I do think this happens -- there are foods or ways of eating food that I enjoyed as a child (like grocery store hot dogs, fish sticks, raw bacon (ugh!), I'm sure there are more) that I currently find rather unpleasant, and there are lots of foods I love now that I would have found off-putting as a child (I was an adventurous eater for a child, but there were many more limits than now). I don't tend to connect this with eating lower cal or healthier foods, but to growing up, being exposed to more tastes, having a more educated palate, older people tending to be more likely to enjoy spicy and bitter tastes and children being more into the sweet and (soon) salty. But I'm sure it can be affected by changing what you eat, just as being exposed to food from a different culture can be initially met with disgust (although I'd hope it wouldn't be for me) and then people get used to it.
(2) People try to use disgust as an way of talking themselves out of eating foods they shouldn't (in other words, in some of these cases I suspect they are not really disgusted but enjoy claiming so). IMO this fits the "I changed my diet from all fast food 2 weeks ago and now just looking at a Big Mac grosses me out" kind of post. (I'm not saying people can't find fast food kind of icky. I stopped eating it years ago because I discovered that although I'd enjoyed it as a special treat as a child it was no longer something I enjoyed.)
(3) People were kind of indiscriminate eaters/not mindful about food and realized that lots of foods they'd eaten before aren't foods they really liked. Possibly including foods they'd considered special treats and would have said they'd loved? I can relate to the first part of this, not the second, but it's certainly possible.
(4) People were picky, rather sheltered eaters who hadn't really tried much in the way of new things since they were kids and once they did realized that there were other foods that were far tastier than their prior diet which affected their feelings toward foods they would have said they loved. This is like a fast-paced, delayed version of (1).
Probably other possibilities too, these are just the ones that occur to me in the moment.
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Also in the nothing disgusts me camp.
I have some texture issues, which is one of the reasons I stopped eating meat, but nothing new. I've actually started eating more things, like cherry tomatoes and larger tomatoes as long as they're diced.
I've personally found tastes changing with age, as opposed to anything else, and I see it mirrored in my mom as well. I've stopped caring so much for super sweet things and now prefer things that are both sweet and salty. If it is something that is going to be super sweet, I'll want something salty to go with it. I'm still not into super salty things unless it is part of another flavor, like BBQ chips or Doritos. This lack of liking salt is a little unfortunate as I need to eat it a little more than I would naturally go for.0 -
Part of what I'm doing is trying to eat more healthy food I cook at home, using a planner (I am using PepperPlate right now, it's not perfect but it's better than the other things I've tried), and the main reason for that is that fast food and its ilk has more and more gotten disgusting over time - mostly because when I consider eating it, I am thinking about my stomach not feeling good after, so it colors my feeling about the food to begin with.
Someone mentioned hydrogenated oil, and I do think you can taste that when you haven't eaten it for a while. My mother was an early adopter of the no hydrogenated oil thing in the late 80s and on when it was really hard to eat that way, so I grew up pretty much without it, and I can to this day taste it when I get it by accident. It's definitely nasty stuff.
I had a boyfriend for 4 years who didn't want any of his food salted (he was worried about blood pressure and heart disease, though he ate prepared foods like ramen noodles and restaurant foods with lots of sodium and never worried about fat or cholesterol...eyeroll) so I learned to cook meat without salt, and I found that my tastes changed. Overly salty food wasn't disgusting necessarily, but it didn't taste good anymore.
And I've found that in cutting way back on soda which was my major addiction it's not as good when I do drink it. I still have some a few days a week, but that's cutting back from 3-5 20 oz a day so it's a huge change. It's still not disgusting, but it is...definitely a lessening of love. Again it's because the overload of sugar and the carbonation make my stomach unhappy after getting used to a lot of water and a little unsweetened tea.0 -
I love my e.l. fudge.
But fast food literally makes me sick on the regular when i eat it where it didn't before. I think that has more to do with my age and general eating habits now....although my eating habits greatly improved in about 2009, and this is a much more recent occurrence.
So high-cal foods don't disgust me unless they literally make me ill...seems to be random, though. Grease? Who knows, lol0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods0 -
I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods
Man, i used to like taco bell, but now it makes me sick. I still like it, but you know....frustrating. So i guess i would rather pretend it disgusts me (fake it til you make it?) than eat it and feel like crap, lol0 -
Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods
Man, i used to like taco bell, but now it makes me sick. I still like it, but you know....frustrating. So i guess i would rather pretend it disgusts me (fake it til you make it?) than eat it and feel like crap, lol
see i wish it WOULD make me sick. haha. its probably the one place i go thinking " im going to order 42 items!!!!" i all of sudden have never ate food before when im in the drive thru.0 -
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Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods
Man, i used to like taco bell, but now it makes me sick. I still like it, but you know....frustrating. So i guess i would rather pretend it disgusts me (fake it til you make it?) than eat it and feel like crap, lol
see i wish it WOULD make me sick. haha. its probably the one place i go thinking " im going to order 42 items!!!!" i all of sudden have never ate food before when im in the drive thru.
Not sure how old you are, but i literally used to have a stomach of iron. I could watch ppl vomit while i was eating (hello, children, lol). But as i got older, it happened even though i didn't want it to.
I'm allergic to sulfur, and i can't eat raw onions or garlic, take certain antibiotics, etc...didn't happen until i was 26. I love onions, so i used cook them and eat them, but my dr has said eventually it will most likely eventually cause an anaphylactic reaction, so i just kind of learned to focus on how horrible they made me feel.
Still sad. Boooo.0 -
Blueseraphchaos wrote: »Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods
Man, i used to like taco bell, but now it makes me sick. I still like it, but you know....frustrating. So i guess i would rather pretend it disgusts me (fake it til you make it?) than eat it and feel like crap, lol
see i wish it WOULD make me sick. haha. its probably the one place i go thinking " im going to order 42 items!!!!" i all of sudden have never ate food before when im in the drive thru.
Not sure how old you are, but i literally used to have a stomach of iron. I could watch ppl vomit while i was eating (hello, children, lol). But as i got older, it happened even though i didn't want it to.
I'm allergic to sulfur, and i can't eat raw onions or garlic, take certain antibiotics, etc...didn't happen until i was 26. I love onions, so i used cook them and eat them, but my dr has said eventually it will most likely eventually cause an anaphylactic reaction, so i just kind of learned to focus on how horrible they made me feel.
Still sad. Boooo.
For what it's worth, I hate onions unless they're blended away. Would probably love anything you cooked lol
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Blueseraphchaos wrote: »Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I_Will_End_You wrote: »Nope. Food I used to eat often (like Taco Bell) that I now only eat occasionally, is still delicious. In fact, I think it's even better now that I don't have it as frequently.
agree totally. i freak'n love me some taco bell and now that i eat it less i swear it tastes even more amazing. i still love all foods
Man, i used to like taco bell, but now it makes me sick. I still like it, but you know....frustrating. So i guess i would rather pretend it disgusts me (fake it til you make it?) than eat it and feel like crap, lol
see i wish it WOULD make me sick. haha. its probably the one place i go thinking " im going to order 42 items!!!!" i all of sudden have never ate food before when im in the drive thru.
Not sure how old you are, but i literally used to have a stomach of iron. I could watch ppl vomit while i was eating (hello, children, lol). But as i got older, it happened even though i didn't want it to.
I'm allergic to sulfur, and i can't eat raw onions or garlic, take certain antibiotics, etc...didn't happen until i was 26. I love onions, so i used cook them and eat them, but my dr has said eventually it will most likely eventually cause an anaphylactic reaction, so i just kind of learned to focus on how horrible they made me feel.
Still sad. Boooo.
For what it's worth, I hate onions unless they're blended away. Would probably love anything you cooked lol
Eh, my husband didn't like onions until i introduced him to them correctly...but i cook a lot of vegetarian stuff that no one else in my house eats, lol! But you might like everything else.
Except the days when i say "**ck it" and just drink vodka for dinner, like today.
I'm horrible.0 -
I've gotten myself to appreciate more whole foods, but with the exception of sodas, I still like what I used to eat. I just try to stick to weighing out my sweets, eating less higher calorie foods I don't want to fit into my day, and going for smaller portions.
I can be satisfied with smaller amounts of food but it's still really easy for me to eat a stupid amount of food in a day. I went nuts this 4th of July weekend.0 -
Some things I used to think were delicious treats aren't that anymore (and not because I demonize them). For example, some sweet things (very sweet baked goods, for example) are just too, too sweet to be delectable. But they aren't really disgusting.
Some things that I ate willingly but didn't loveLove (such as some restaurant foods, maybe plain fettuccine Alfredo, say) are now kind of disgusting, especially if in a low-quality processed-foods form. Whole, fresh foods definitely taste best to me at this point, but I've been evolving that way over a long time, and have been less enthusiastic than most people (I think) about fast food & processed foods for my whole adult life.0
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