“food can be the most powerful form of medicine or the slowest form of poison”

umayster
umayster Posts: 651 Member
edited November 23 in Food and Nutrition
Very interesting article in the British Medical Journal regarding diet composition in regards to cardiovascular risk, metabolic syndrome and diabetes.

A critical review in Nutrition also concluded that dietary carbohydrate restriction is the “single most effective intervention for reducing all of the features of the metabolic syndrome” and should be the first approach in diabetes management with the very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet (<10% carbs) revealing the greatest falls in glycated hemoglobin and reduction in the use of medications with benefits occurring even without weight loss.

Shifting focus away from calories and emphasising a dietary pattern that focuses on food quality rather than quantity will help to rapidly reduce obesity, related diseases and cardiovascular risk.
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    umayster wrote: »
    Very interesting article in the British Medical Journal regarding diet composition in regards to cardiovascular risk, metabolic syndrome and diabetes.

    A critical review in Nutrition also concluded that dietary carbohydrate restriction is the “single most effective intervention for reducing all of the features of the metabolic syndrome” and should be the first approach in diabetes management with the very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet (<10% carbs) revealing the greatest falls in glycated hemoglobin and reduction in the use of medications with benefits occurring even without weight loss.

    Shifting focus away from calories and emphasising a dietary pattern that focuses on food quality rather than quantity will help to rapidly reduce obesity, related diseases and cardiovascular risk.

    Link?
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    But....oh never mind. I'll just grab the popcorn & watch this go up in flames.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    But....oh never mind. I'll just grab the popcorn & watch this go up in flames.

    Best be low carb popcorn, son, or you're gonna die.

    Have some of mine. The smothered coating of butter-flavored coconut oil will protect you from the evil, evil carbs.
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    But....oh never mind. I'll just grab the popcorn & watch this go up in flames.

    Best be low carb popcorn, son, or you're gonna die.

    Have some of mine. The smothered coating of butter-flavored coconut oil will protect you from the evil, evil carbs.
    _DSC0244.JPG

    Whoa!
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  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    edited August 2015
    Link?

    It's usually a good idea to cite your sources if you are going to copy and paste..
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited August 2015
    Not to mention the plagiarized thread title, which is a quote by Ann Wigmore ("Lithuanian holistic health practitioner, nutritionist, whole foods advocate, and health educator"...thank you Google) and seemingly has nothing to do with the content posted.

    ETA - well I guess by putting the title in "quotes" calling it plagiarized might be a bit of a stretch...still always good to give credit to original authors though.
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  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    But....oh never mind. I'll just grab the popcorn & watch this go up in flames.

    Best be low carb popcorn, son, or you're gonna die.

    Have some of mine. The smothered coating of butter-flavored coconut oil will protect you from the evil, evil carbs.
    _DSC0244.JPG

    Toss in some peanut butter m&m's and I'm in.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Posts a thread about an article, but doesn't post said article...Sense that makes....none. I think you need some glucose in your life.
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  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Very interesting article in the British Medical Journal regarding diet composition in regards to cardiovascular risk, metabolic syndrome and diabetes.

    A critical review in Nutrition also concluded that dietary carbohydrate restriction is the “single most effective intervention for reducing all of the features of the metabolic syndrome” and should be the first approach in diabetes management with the very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet (<10% carbs) revealing the greatest falls in glycated hemoglobin and reduction in the use of medications with benefits occurring even without weight loss.

    Shifting focus away from calories and emphasising a dietary pattern that focuses on food quality rather than quantity will help to rapidly reduce obesity, related diseases and cardiovascular risk.

    Link?

    BMJ link
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2015
    msf74 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Very interesting article in the British Medical Journal regarding diet composition in regards to cardiovascular risk, metabolic syndrome and diabetes.

    A critical review in Nutrition also concluded that dietary carbohydrate restriction is the “single most effective intervention for reducing all of the features of the metabolic syndrome” and should be the first approach in diabetes management with the very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet (<10% carbs) revealing the greatest falls in glycated hemoglobin and reduction in the use of medications with benefits occurring even without weight loss.

    Shifting focus away from calories and emphasising a dietary pattern that focuses on food quality rather than quantity will help to rapidly reduce obesity, related diseases and cardiovascular risk.

    Link?

    BMJ link

    Thank you, @msf74.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    fruits and vegetables and legumes and oats and other whole grains are packed with nutrition...and they are carbs.

    fecking devil oatmeal...and I knew these black beans would be the death of me...
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    But....oh never mind. I'll just grab the popcorn & watch this go up in flames.

    but I eat (insert diet of the month) and now I'm not an a**hole...
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    The article is essentially an argument against current recommendations. Given the existence of the current recommendations, it is obviously disagreed with by many.

    It's about people with diabetes (and contrary to the apparent opinion of some, not everyone has diabetes).

    It assumes that people with diabetes can't (or are unlikely to) lose weight.

    It assumes (and this is one of the more controversial parts that I think demonstrates bias given the variety of studies I know of) that low carb is a more effective way to lose weight. (The main evidence relied on for this are studies that have been discussed here before, in which the successes with the low carb diet lost substantially less than I or many others at MFP did without going low carb.)

    But, hey, there's never enough low carb evangelism on MFP, so why not.

    I prefer my popcorn without butter, though -- butter makes it soggy.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    msf74 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    umayster wrote: »
    Very interesting article in the British Medical Journal regarding diet composition in regards to cardiovascular risk, metabolic syndrome and diabetes.

    A critical review in Nutrition also concluded that dietary carbohydrate restriction is the “single most effective intervention for reducing all of the features of the metabolic syndrome” and should be the first approach in diabetes management with the very low carbohydrate ketogenic diet (<10% carbs) revealing the greatest falls in glycated hemoglobin and reduction in the use of medications with benefits occurring even without weight loss.

    Shifting focus away from calories and emphasising a dietary pattern that focuses on food quality rather than quantity will help to rapidly reduce obesity, related diseases and cardiovascular risk.

    Link?

    BMJ link

    Thank you, @msf74.

    No probs.

    It's being reported on today in the UK.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    fruits and vegetables and legumes and oats and other whole grains are packed with nutrition...and they are carbs.

    fecking devil oatmeal...and I knew these black beans would be the death of me...

    All of this.
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  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I think a big problem is putting food on this sort of pedestal. It's neither medicine or poison. It's nutrition and it is a chief source of pleasure. The article is drama. I dismiss it with a wave of my wand. *pouf
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Thread fail
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    The article is essentially an argument against current recommendations. Given the existence of the current recommendations, it is obviously disagreed with by many.

    It's about people with diabetes (and contrary to the apparent opinion of some, not everyone has diabetes).

    It assumes that people with diabetes can't (or are unlikely to) lose weight.

    It assumes (and this is one of the more controversial parts that I think demonstrates bias given the variety of studies I know of) that low carb is a more effective way to lose weight. (The main evidence relied on for this are studies that have been discussed here before, in which the successes with the low carb diet lost substantially less than I or many others at MFP did without going low carb.)

    But, hey, there's never enough low carb evangelism on MFP, so why not.

    I prefer my popcorn without butter, though -- butter makes it soggy.

    Spot on.

    Plus, it's common knowledge that people with diabetes need to moderate their carb intake. However, extremes are never good.

    I like my popcorn without butter as well, but I cook it in the Orville Redenbaucher Popping Topping because it's so darned good. This is an example:

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    I think a big problem is putting food on this sort of pedestal. It's neither medicine or poison. It's nutrition and it is a chief source of pleasure. The article is drama. I dismiss it with a wave of my wand. *pouf

    Very well said.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2015
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    fruits and vegetables and legumes and oats and other whole grains are packed with nutrition...and they are carbs.

    fecking devil oatmeal...and I knew these black beans would be the death of me...

    I have oatmeal with fruit every single weekday morning, except today I replaced it with French toast just because I'm on my last week of vacation and just felt like it. That French toast made out of my homemade bread had a banana and raspberries on it, and it was so good!
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    I like my popcorn without butter as well, but I cook it in the Orville Redenbaucher Popping Topping because it's so darned good. This is an example:

    25285_285.jpg

    Hmm. I may have to look into that.

    I really want popcorn right now.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I had oatmeal with raspberries this morning. Yum.

    I usually have a lower carb breakfast of eggs and vegetables (and sometimes smoked salmon or cottage cheese), but I needed to use up the raspberries and was in the mood for oatmeal. And I like carbs.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Caitwn wrote: »

    The editorial isn't pushing any one way of eating, but is arguing that in order to prevent and intervene with specific disease types, simply reducing calorie intake is insufficient. I do think we'll be seeing similar conclusions once the 2015 Dietary Guidelines for Americans are finalized.

    Yes, I think you are right.

    It's not a particularly new message either in this regard - not only quantity is important but also quality.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    @lemurcat12, I love my popcorn popper, and it's pretty old too. Maybe I'll have some for an evening snack. :)
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Thread fail

    'nuff said
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