Am I ready to bulk?
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To be clear. I followed the sl 5x5 program to the t from may(when i started maint.) to early august.0
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Packerjohn wrote: »
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Yeah bulk. Just eat 250-500 cals over your TDEE to avoid to much excessive fat gain and lift heavy focusing on Compound movements and any isolation exercises you enjoy. I've been slowly bulking for nearly two years (3000 cals a day) and have liked the results and enjoyed eating. Whenever I do decide to cut, I will do this very slowly too whilst continuing to lift heavy.0
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Packerjohn wrote: »
I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
You say your progress is stalled. What does that mean? I doubt a raw noobie, eating at least maintenance, would stall after 3 months.0 -
You'll look like a cancer patient if you try to trim the rest of the belly fat before bulking. You're stalling cuz you can't add muscle unless you're eating at a surplus. Bulk till April at .75-1 lb gain / week. Waiting 3,6 whatever amount of months, will be time wasted.-1
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Packerjohn wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »
I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
You say your progress is stalled. What does that mean? I doubt a raw noobie, eating at least maintenance, would stall after 3 months.
I mean that I've been unable to add weight. I deload. And have made it back to where I stalled and am unable to add weight.
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MagnumBurrito wrote: »You'll look like a cancer patient if you try to trim the rest of the belly fat before bulking. You're stalling cuz you can't add muscle unless you're eating at a surplus. Bulk till April at .75-1 lb gain / week. Waiting 3,6 whatever amount of months, will be time wasted.
I guess I'm thinking he's still at 20% or so bodyfat. Most of what I read says should be not more that 15% at most to bulk. I'd think more of a recomp until he lowers the BF %.Packerjohn wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »
I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
You say your progress is stalled. What does that mean? I doubt a raw noobie, eating at least maintenance, would stall after 3 months.
I mean that I've been unable to add weight. I deload. And have made it back to where I stalled and am unable to add weight.
You mentioned your doing Stronlifts 5x5. What kind of weight are you using?0 -
I'm using barbell. My squat is @ 150. Dead were 185. BP is 100. Ohp is 70 (I got stuck on this right away) row is 95. Are those impedance BF scales that inaccurate that it would say I'm @ 11% when I'm actually @ 20%?0
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I'm using barbell. My squat is @ 150. Dead were 185. BP is 100. Ohp is 70 (I got stuck on this right away) row is 95. Are those impedance BF scales that inaccurate that it would say I'm @ 11% when I'm actually @ 20%?
They scales can be off quite a bit.
Take a look at this article.
http://rippedbody.jp/12-weeks-on-leangains-what-you-can-expect-to-achieve/
Based on your description, I would say you match up with type 3, skinny fat. The article recommends more of a recomp approach for someone in your situation.0 -
I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
It doesn't matter what his exact BF% is. From the pic you can tell he needs to add muscle and he's got low enough body fat where it'll be very beneficial to bulk. Once you've done a legit bulk and have a good baseline of muscle, then follow the 10-15% bulk/cut repeat protocol.
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MagnumBurrito wrote: »I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
It doesn't matter what his exact BF% is. From the pic you can tell he needs to add muscle and he's got low enough body fat where it'll be very beneficial to bulk. Once you've done a legit bulk and have a good baseline of muscle, then follow the 10-15% bulk/cut repeat protocol.
Agree he needs to add muscle. He's only reached his maintenance weight and started lifting 3-4 months ago (and is fairly weak). IMO, he would be better off doing more of a recomp for 6 months or so, eating enough to cover the calories burned lifting to get the eating and exercise habits ingrained before doing a full blown bulk.
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MagnumBurrito wrote: »I would think that with 3 months total lifting experience in you life. As others have said you do not have a good foundation of muscle and a BF in the 10-15% range. Looking at the pictures I don't think you are there.
It doesn't matter what his exact BF% is. From the pic you can tell he needs to add muscle and he's got low enough body fat where it'll be very beneficial to bulk. Once you've done a legit bulk and have a good baseline of muscle, then follow the 10-15% bulk/cut repeat protocol.
^^^ This ^^^^
OP - I was YOU about 2 years ago! Same weight but 2 inches shorter. Now is the best time to decide on a goal and stick to it! Regardless if you want to build muscle primarly/build strength primarly/or mix the two you need to start eating!
I made some pretty awesome strength and muscle gains using a 5x5 program. You can do the same with any good program that has 'progressive overload' incorporated into it. Here are a few links of programs I've successfully used....
https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout
https://content.tigerfitness.com/juggernaut-fitness-linear-hypertrophy-program/ (most time effecient)
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Slow bulk for two-three years adding between 20-30lbs of muscle (with newbie gains). In that time you might add about 15lbs of fat which will still look fine because of the muscle gains (You will be looking noticeably different/better after a year). Then go on a 12-16 week cut and looked ripped. Enjoy.0
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slideaway1 wrote: »Slow bulk for two-three years adding between 20-30lbs of muscle (with newbie gains). In that time you might add about 15lbs of fat which will still look fine because of the muscle gains (You will be looking noticeably different/better after a year). Then go on a 12-16 week cut and looked ripped. Enjoy.
If I'm reading this right you're saying 35-45 pound total gain over 2-3 years which would be a bit over a pound a month? I could go with this as opposed to someone that was suggesting a pound a week.0 -
I think I'm going to up my calories to 2750 for the next two weeks and retake my measurements and reevaluate0
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