Food Guilt?

Venus_Red

Kalikel wrote: »

Food shouldn't make you feel ashamed.

Try to remind yourself that you DO want to eat the pizza and ice cream. That's why you eat it. It isn't really that you don't want it, but have no control over yourself. You're 100% in control. When you eat this stuff, remind yourself that you've chosen to eat it.

Once you're accustomed to choosing and knowing you're in charge of what you eat, it might get easier to chose not to eat things that will stall your diet or not contribute to your overall health. But, IMO, there is no way to choose anything so long as you tell yourself that you cannot help it.

Good luck.

Um, can you explain how anything you just said is helpful? Or are you just doing the neg thing?

victoria_1024

I used to until I realized that I can still lose weight and be healthy even while eating the occasional pizza, and I literally eat chocolate every day. 65 pounds lost! Today I ate fried cake batter at the fair and don't feel guilty at all. In the past I had the same "all or nothing" mentality as you with dieting and all it did was cause me to be so restrictive that I would just end up binging and give up dieting all together. I've been much more successful this time around including treats in my life.

arditarose

I feel a little guilty if I go over my goal. I feel very happy if I eat pizza or ice cream and stay within a deficit.

kshama2001

withaflourish wrote: »

Kalikel wrote: »

Food shouldn't make you feel ashamed.

Try to remind yourself that you DO want to eat the pizza and ice cream. That's why you eat it. It isn't really that you don't want it, but have no control over yourself. You're 100% in control. When you eat this stuff, remind yourself that you've chosen to eat it.

Once you're accustomed to choosing and knowing you're in charge of what you eat, it might get easier to chose not to eat things that will stall your diet or not contribute to your overall health. But, IMO, there is no way to choose anything so long as you tell yourself that you cannot help it.

Good luck.

Um, can you explain how anything you just said is helpful? Or are you just doing the neg thing?

I've seen this sort of tip often as a way to work with binge eating disorder. It's a way to bring mindfulness back.

kshama2001

jemhh wrote: »

What is awful or unhealthy about pizza? It's tomato sauce and cheese and bread, not arsenic and crack.

If you are seriously crying and hating yourself (rather than exaggerating for effect) you need to see a counselor. It's not healthy to think that way.

Best of luck to you.

Since she's lactose and gluten intolerant, she probably pays for it afterwards.

Venus_Red

kshama2001 wrote: »

withaflourish wrote: »

Kalikel wrote: »

Food shouldn't make you feel ashamed.

Try to remind yourself that you DO want to eat the pizza and ice cream. That's why you eat it. It isn't really that you don't want it, but have no control over yourself. You're 100% in control. When you eat this stuff, remind yourself that you've chosen to eat it.

Once you're accustomed to choosing and knowing you're in charge of what you eat, it might get easier to chose not to eat things that will stall your diet or not contribute to your overall health. But, IMO, there is no way to choose anything so long as you tell yourself that you cannot help it.

Good luck.

Um, can you explain how anything you just said is helpful? Or are you just doing the neg thing?

I've seen this sort of tip often as a way to work with binge eating disorder. It's a way to bring mindfulness back.

So, not helpful at all then.

EquestrianLark135

Wow. I just want to thank everyone for all the supportive replies!

I am working on changing my unhealthy mindset with food but it's a way of thinking I've had for years... So it's pretty hard.

I am in therapy for depression and anxiety as well as more recently - eating disorders. I do have Binge eating disorder which causes my food guilt (should have put that in the original post). I went through a few months of trying to control it by extreme calorie deficiency and fasting. I was eating less than 500 cals a day and losing around a pound a day. As hungry as I was, I loved seeing the progress so fast. Unfortunately, the inevitable happened... I binged. I binged a lot. I got depressed and cut (not a new thing). This is when my therapist stepped in and I told her what I had been doing.

So yeah... I have issues.
I do like the idea of pre logging my days. I'll definitely try that!

And I think a lot of you are right in that when I actually see the progress - while still allowing myself treats - will change my "bad food” mindset.

kiela64

EquestrianLark135 wrote: »

Wow. I just want to thank everyone for all the supportive replies!

I am working on changing my unhealthy mindset with food but it's a way of thinking I've had for years... So it's pretty hard.

I am in therapy for depression and anxiety as well as more recently - eating disorders. I do have Binge eating disorder which causes my food guilt (should have put that in the original post). I went through a few months of trying to control it by extreme calorie deficiency and fasting. I was eating less than 500 cals a day and losing around a pound a day. As hungry as I was, I loved seeing the progress so fast. Unfortunately, the inevitable happened... I binged. I binged a lot. I got depressed and cut (not a new thing). This is when my therapist stepped in and I told her what I had been doing.

So yeah... I have issues.
I do like the idea of pre logging my days. I'll definitely try that!

And I think a lot of you are right in that when I actually see the progress - while still allowing myself treats - will change my "bad food” mindset.

*hugs*

I think depression and anxiety and food can interact in some messed up ways, in my experience. Having a "perfection or failure" mindset is definitely something I'm working against, and it can be very stop-go. I'm glad to hear you're working with a therapist! I really do think progress will help the "bad food" feeling, and even if the weight isn't showing it - things like not binging and feeling better are still wins I wish you all the best!

daniwilford

I am not sure how to express it, maybe if we say, some foods or some foods in some quantities aggravate my health condition or are less helpful in reaching my health goals. Face it, sometimes it is just easier to use the adjective "bad". The temptation for me, with anxiety and depression, it that I often think in terms of all or nothing. Something that has helped me is to think of this "lifestyle change" as a process that takes practice. I relate it to playing a musical instrument when you have an average amount of talent. You will not go from performing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" to "Bach" without a many years of practice. I think of everyday as a practice, not performance. When you practice, you can mess up, stop in the middle and start over again. When you practice you can work on one bit, over and over again until you feel comfortable with that and move on. The key to becoming performance ready is to keep practicing. When it comes to health lifestyle I am no child prodigy, is "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star", music? Sure it is, but I want more, the way to get more is to just keep on practicing. Be gentle with yourself, if you aren't perfect, by reminding yourself it is just practice. Be tough on yourself when you are tempted to stop practicing, because that will not get you where you want to be.

jemhh

kshama2001 wrote: »

jemhh wrote: »

What is awful or unhealthy about pizza? It's tomato sauce and cheese and bread, not arsenic and crack.

If you are seriously crying and hating yourself (rather than exaggerating for effect) you need to see a counselor. It's not healthy to think that way.

Best of luck to you.

Since she's lactose and gluten intolerant, she probably pays for it afterwards.

I'm assuming she's smart enough to eat pizza or ice cream that doesn't cause gastrointestinal problems.