Anyone here over 50, eating more than 50% carbohydrates?
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Just curious how us middle aged folk are eating now that we're old and wise? 
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Not me. I think. I'd bet I average under 100 grams most days. Probably eat around 1400. I'm in menopause and definitely find that lowering my carbs a bit (and eating SLOWER carbs) makes it all more manageable. Fewer menopausal symptoms. Easier to control cravings and hunger. Just better. I eat tons of veg. Just limit the heavily refined junk carbs. The rest takes care of itself
My labs are spectacular. I've been at my goal weight for 14 years. I run. I lift. I do Pilates.
ETA: yep. At about 1400 today with under 100 grams of carbs.0 -
oyChihuahua wrote: »Yep. Lower blood serum levels than my doc - three years running. I'm 53. He's half my age. Killing my bootcamp workouts every week. The 20 somethings try it and quit half way through; or if they survive, don't return. The HIIT component has given me a resting heart rate of around 52 bpm; VO2MAX around 48 ml/kg/min. (per this calculator: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/articles/vo2-and-vo2max.aspx#whatarenormalVO2maxvalues)
I usually come in around 60% carbs or so last time I checked. I don't really pay much attention to it...
You sound very fit, how about health?
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I'm 60. I've been at my goal weight for nearly 3 years. I have no health problems and still have the energy and stamina to teach seventh grade. I don't take medications for anything. All is, fortunately well. I eat a lot of carbs, around 55% of my diet.0
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My macros are 35% carbs and protein and 30% fat. Most of the time I am below 100 grams carbs or just barely above. I feel and perform better that way since protein and fat keep me full and satisfied longer. I have excellent lab results and the only meds that I am on are for a hypo thyroid. Maybe that is why I do better with lower carbs. I am 71 years old.0
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How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
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How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
I would imagine very few of us are Okinawan and eat an authentic Okinawan diet, their stats might be of limited use here in the USA with our very different diet and genetics.
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How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
I would imagine very few of us are Okinawan and eat an authentic Okinawan diet, their stats might be of limited use here in the USA with our very different diet and genetics.
What on that chart is exclusively Okinawan?0 -
oyChihuahua wrote: »Yep. Lower blood serum levels than my doc - three years running. I'm 53. He's half my age. Killing my bootcamp workouts every week. The 20 somethings try it and quit half way through; or if they survive, don't return. The HIIT component has given me a resting heart rate of around 52 bpm; VO2MAX around 48 ml/kg/min. (per this calculator: http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/articles/vo2-and-vo2max.aspx#whatarenormalVO2maxvalues)
I usually come in around 60% carbs or so last time I checked. I don't really pay much attention to it...
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Because you're awesome.
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I don't think humans are that genetically diverse. There certainly is no evolutionary pressure to live to be 100 years old.How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
I would imagine very few of us are Okinawan and eat an authentic Okinawan diet, their stats might be of limited use here in the USA with our very different diet and genetics.0 -
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I don't think humans are that genetically diverse. There certainly is no evolutionary pressure to live to be 100 years old.How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
I would imagine very few of us are Okinawan and eat an authentic Okinawan diet, their stats might be of limited use here in the USA with our very different diet and genetics.
Don't be ridiculous - there has to be a huge evolutionary advantage to pooping in your pants and eating blended meatloaf while watching Matlock.0 -
I eat around 50% carbs because I am mostly eating vegetarian -- lots beans.0
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How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span0 -
Cut your carbs. 35 percent good. 0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
I don't think humans are that genetically diverse. There certainly is no evolutionary pressure to live to be 100 years old.How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
I would imagine very few of us are Okinawan and eat an authentic Okinawan diet, their stats might be of limited use here in the USA with our very different diet and genetics.
Don't be ridiculous - there has to be a huge evolutionary advantage to pooping in your pants and eating blended meatloaf while watching Matlock.
I don't like your version of evolution.0 -
I can't quite parse that. Are you asking who was omitted from the study, or what was omitted from the study, or which of those were dropped in titling the graph?Gianfranco_R wrote: »How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span
Beyond the genetics of Okinawans, there is evidence that all mammalian aging is partially controlled by mTOR pathways, and that reduced protein consumption, and replacing it with either calorie restriction, or even substitution with carbohydrates appears to involve lowered mTOR activation.
It is something that actually worries me to an extent - it would seem that for all the health benefits, weight lifting, as one of the drivers of protein synthesis, might actually be burning through cellular life span faster to accomplish the creation of muscle. I'd sure hate it if it turns out that we really do live in a world of the candle that burns hottest burns out fastest.0 -
Can not be overlooked...Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
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I can't quite parse that. Are you asking who was omitted from the study, or what was omitted from the study, or which of those were dropped in titling the graph?Gianfranco_R wrote: »How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span
Beyond the genetics of Okinawans, there is evidence that all mammalian aging is partially controlled by mTOR pathways, and that reduced protein consumption, and replacing it with either calorie restriction, or even substitution with carbohydrates appears to involve lowered mTOR activation.
It is something that actually worries me to an extent - it would seem that for all the health benefits, weight lifting, as one of the drivers of protein synthesis, might actually be burning through cellular life span faster to accomplish the creation of muscle. I'd sure hate it if it turns out that we really do live in a world of the candle that burns hottest burns out fastest.
Language barrier, I suppose. I'm not asking anything.
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I see now. It got turned into a sentence fragment by capitalizing it. I still fail to see how the study itself looking at calorie restriction removes the fact that the longest live people on this planet do eat a high carbohydrate diet.Gianfranco_R wrote: »
I can't quite parse that. Are you asking who was omitted from the study, or what was omitted from the study, or which of those were dropped in titling the graph?Gianfranco_R wrote: »How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span
Beyond the genetics of Okinawans, there is evidence that all mammalian aging is partially controlled by mTOR pathways, and that reduced protein consumption, and replacing it with either calorie restriction, or even substitution with carbohydrates appears to involve lowered mTOR activation.
It is something that actually worries me to an extent - it would seem that for all the health benefits, weight lifting, as one of the drivers of protein synthesis, might actually be burning through cellular life span faster to accomplish the creation of muscle. I'd sure hate it if it turns out that we really do live in a world of the candle that burns hottest burns out fastest.
Language barrier, I suppose. I'm not asking anything.
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When I lived on Okinawa, I noted that Okinawans were not overweight and were active. For example:
- Many of them used bicycles or walked.
- As I bicycled to work in the AM, I noticed groups of people exercising together - it looked to me like Thai Chi, but was probably an Okinawan version thereof. It seemed like something coworkers were doing together before their work day started.0 -
I see now. It got turned into a sentence fragment by capitalizing it. I still fail to see how the study itself looking at calorie restriction removes the fact that the longest live people on this planet do eat a high carbohydrate diet.Gianfranco_R wrote: »
I can't quite parse that. Are you asking who was omitted from the study, or what was omitted from the study, or which of those were dropped in titling the graph?Gianfranco_R wrote: »How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span
Beyond the genetics of Okinawans, there is evidence that all mammalian aging is partially controlled by mTOR pathways, and that reduced protein consumption, and replacing it with either calorie restriction, or even substitution with carbohydrates appears to involve lowered mTOR activation.
It is something that actually worries me to an extent - it would seem that for all the health benefits, weight lifting, as one of the drivers of protein synthesis, might actually be burning through cellular life span faster to accomplish the creation of muscle. I'd sure hate it if it turns out that we really do live in a world of the candle that burns hottest burns out fastest.
Language barrier, I suppose. I'm not asking anything.
Go for it, I am really neutral on this crazy carb war. But please don't forget to eat sweet potato, maybe that's the real secret for longevity
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
When the point of the OP is that carbs are the problem for bad health in older people, then yes, very interesting.
Even just focusing on the US, vegetarians and especially vegans tend to eat higher carb diets and on average (certainly not the case for all, though) have better health results. People who eat lots of highly processed carbs (and lots of sat fat) tend to have worse health results on average. You can get into causation vs. correlation, of course.0 -
The choice of language doesn't well convey neutrality.Gianfranco_R wrote: »
I see now. It got turned into a sentence fragment by capitalizing it. I still fail to see how the study itself looking at calorie restriction removes the fact that the longest live people on this planet do eat a high carbohydrate diet.Gianfranco_R wrote: »
I can't quite parse that. Are you asking who was omitted from the study, or what was omitted from the study, or which of those were dropped in titling the graph?Gianfranco_R wrote: »How about people over 100 eating more than 50% carbs? I wonder if there were enough of them to fill a small south eastern island?
Interesting, the chart references a study entitled
The diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
while the real title is:
Caloric restriction, the traditional Okinawan diet, and healthy aging: the diet of the world's longest-lived people and its potential impact on morbidity and life span
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17986602
So who did the chart could manage to omit an important piece of information.
Here is the whole study:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/5859391_Caloric_Restriction_the_Traditional_Okinawan_Diet_and_Healthy_Aging_The_Diet_of_the_World's_Longest-Lived_People_and_Its_Potential_Impact_on_Morbidity_and_Life_Span
Beyond the genetics of Okinawans, there is evidence that all mammalian aging is partially controlled by mTOR pathways, and that reduced protein consumption, and replacing it with either calorie restriction, or even substitution with carbohydrates appears to involve lowered mTOR activation.
It is something that actually worries me to an extent - it would seem that for all the health benefits, weight lifting, as one of the drivers of protein synthesis, might actually be burning through cellular life span faster to accomplish the creation of muscle. I'd sure hate it if it turns out that we really do live in a world of the candle that burns hottest burns out fastest.
Language barrier, I suppose. I'm not asking anything.
Go for it, I am really neutral on this crazy carb war. But please don't forget to eat sweet potato, maybe that's the real secret for longevity
I'm not sure where I claimed I was planning on trying to use it as a blueprint for my own life. As I already implied, I'm hoping it isn't totally correct - I'd like to live long and increase muscle mass without those goals being antagonistic.0 -
Morning calisthenics are rather common across all of Japan. A number of companies start their work day that way. I don't think it burns that many calories though.kshama2001 wrote: »When I lived on Okinawa, I noted that Okinawans were not overweight and were active. For example:
- Many of them used bicycles or walked.
- As I bicycled to work in the AM, I noticed groups of people exercising together - it looked to me like Thai Chi, but was probably an Okinawan version thereof. It seemed like something coworkers were doing together before their work day started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_calisthenics0 -
As I've aged, I've found I have reduced ability to digest proteins. Add the fact that I love me some sweet potatoes and I'm good. Im at a good 50 % carbs, losing on schedule and healthy. My only conundrum is that I really don't want to live to 100. No meatloaf shakes and Matlock for me, thanks.0
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not 50...turning 41 in a couple of weeks...roughly 50-60% of my diet is carbohydrates. I eat a lot of legumes and lentils, oats, rice, potatoes, veggies, and fruit and I'm very active.0
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I'm 63, don't particularly like meat, don't eat many beans because they upset my stomach, love carbs and fruit and veggies (some of them). I get enough protein. My weight is low normal, my blood pressure low, all my blood work fine, I run a couple of miles a day, I'm perfectly healthy and I do not plan to stop eating a diet of at least 60% carbs, probably more but I don't bother to count. My mother lived to age 92 and ate boxes and boxes of lemon cookies for years, and when asked about her diet said she was GD old and would eat anything she wanted. Hardly anyone argued with her about that. I do not understand why not eating carbs is associated with wisdom unless they make you ill or you just don't like them. Not everyone values 'health' as the highest good. You're going to die no matter what you eat and all the healthy food in the world will not guarantee when that will happen. Enjoy the lemon cookies.0
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