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having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….0 -
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
Ok, so you feel that you are cheating yourself, by eating foods that you are normally restricting.
See, I sort of get that. I'm just not sure the word "cheat" is correct.0 -
thebrandnewdiva wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »thebrandnewdiva wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Why the false equation between a cheat day and binging (disordered behavior)?
Most ppl go all out on cheat days and binge to make up for the restriction. I'm simply saying that I don't feel comfortable doing that and look at cheat days as more of a break from counting
So, according to your posts in this thread "most" people engage in disordered behaviors ... i.e binges ... to have a cheat day. The examples provided by others in this tread counter your assertion.
Go away
Quit linking cheat days to binging. Words mean things. Perhaps you've noticed that there is no "cheat day eating disorder" but there is such a thing as binge eating disorder.
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Cheat days are just to tempt us to eat more and gain weight again which we tried to lose over the past couple of weeks or so. I usually have days like this once a month..But I walk or run in order to cut down all d calories I had that day and to be within my goal always... No matter what day it is!
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I like the idea that the use of the word 'cheat' isn't really a good way to frame it. I wouldn't want to call it a 'fun' day either though, because I find looking at food as entertainment is a terrible idea for me. What would it be called if not a cheat meal or cheat day?0
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I don't "cheat." I eat what I love, and I maintain a caloric deficit. I enjoy all the same foods and when I go over my calories, I log it and enjoy it. Eating over calories or eating foods that some people seem unhealthy does not have a direct correlation with bingeing.0
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I have semantics and ideas about this that are important to me:
I call it a Treat, not a Cheat, and it's a meal, and I try to log it and get it within, if not a daily, a weekly deficit.
The reason I differentiate it from my standard diet is that, nutritionally speaking, it may not be something that would be brilliant to have every day, but looking forward to a couple of pieces of pizza and a couple of beers on a Friday night, for example, is what keeps me going some days!
I know there's a school of thought that food should be fuel, not reward (and geez did my Attack instructor bang on about that this week...), but I use it as a reward fairly often. I like it, it motivates me, and it's an indulgence I always enjoy. It's not my only reward/indulgence, of course, but, by having limitations on it, from small daily treats to larger weekly treats, I'm able to enjoy using food as a reward and maintain a healthy weight. It's the only thing that's ever worked for me.0 -
I like the idea that the use of the word 'cheat' isn't really a good way to frame it. I wouldn't want to call it a 'fun' day either though, because I find looking at food as entertainment is a terrible idea for me. What would it be called if not a cheat meal or cheat day?
Nothing, it doesn't need to be named, as it's not a thing.
How about a "Today I ate a dietary intake that resulted in a calorie surplus because I chose to eat foods that resulted in that surplus"
Or a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day.
Obviously a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day, can be a TDIAADITRIACDBICTEFTRITS day, if a deficit is achieved.
Or a TDIAADITRIACMLBICTEFTRITS, if a maintenance level of calories is achieved.0 -
I like the idea that the use of the word 'cheat' isn't really a good way to frame it. I wouldn't want to call it a 'fun' day either though, because I find looking at food as entertainment is a terrible idea for me. What would it be called if not a cheat meal or cheat day?
Nothing, it doesn't need to be named, as it's not a thing.
How about a "Today I ate a dietary intake that resulted in a calorie surplus because I chose to eat foods that resulted in that surplus"
Or a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day.
Obviously a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day, can be a TDIAADITRIACDBICTEFTRITS day, if a deficit is achieved.
Or a TDIAADITRIACMLBICTEFTRITS, if a maintenance level of calories is achieved.
Hahaha brilliant!0 -
I like the idea that the use of the word 'cheat' isn't really a good way to frame it. I wouldn't want to call it a 'fun' day either though, because I find looking at food as entertainment is a terrible idea for me. What would it be called if not a cheat meal or cheat day?
Nothing, it doesn't need to be named, as it's not a thing.
How about a "Today I ate a dietary intake that resulted in a calorie surplus because I chose to eat foods that resulted in that surplus"
Or a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day.
Obviously a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day, can be a TDIAADITRIACDBICTEFTRITS day, if a deficit is achieved.
Or a TDIAADITRIACMLBICTEFTRITS, if a maintenance level of calories is achieved.
You, I like.0 -
I like the idea that the use of the word 'cheat' isn't really a good way to frame it. I wouldn't want to call it a 'fun' day either though, because I find looking at food as entertainment is a terrible idea for me. What would it be called if not a cheat meal or cheat day?
Nothing, it doesn't need to be named, as it's not a thing.
How about a "Today I ate a dietary intake that resulted in a calorie surplus because I chose to eat foods that resulted in that surplus"
Or a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day.
Obviously a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS day, can be a TDIAADITRIACDBICTEFTRITS day, if a deficit is achieved.
Or a TDIAADITRIACMLBICTEFTRITS, if a maintenance level of calories is achieved.
I'm just going to have to call it a sabotage day now, because that's what it is for me. I guess there are a few things I miss about being obese.
Warm in all weather.
Never needed to pad a chair because I had my own on me.
Burned more than double the calories I do now for the same workout.
And I could have a TDIAADITRIACSBICTEFTRITS once in awhile and not have to pay for it for weeks.0 -
I do "no tracking days" a few times a year. Vacation and special holidays (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc) and my birthday.
I might be eating over maintenance on those days, I might not. It's just a chance for me to relax and enjoy the day. These are pre-planned and few.
Other than that, I work my treats into my calorie allowance.0 -
My "cheat" AKA don't count calories days: Birthday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter.0
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SingRunTing wrote: »I do "no tracking days" a few times a year. Vacation and special holidays (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc) and my birthday.
I might be eating over maintenance on those days, I might not. It's just a chance for me to relax and enjoy the day. These are pre-planned and few.
Other than that, I work my treats into my calorie allowance.
This. I do the very occasional 'no tracking day'. I refer to it as that too. I don't go overboard, I just... eat as a normal human being would without logging. Doesn't usually make a difference in the weight loss at the end of the week so I can't be going wrong!
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When I was obese I could have a cheat day. Now it takes blood sweat, tears, whining, sobbing, and sweating to lose anything because my BMR is less than 1500 cal a day. No way can I have a cheat meal, much less a day, because my idea of a cheat is a stupid amount of food anyway. One cheat meal equals bye bye all my hard work for at least a week. A cheat day and I'd knock out a month.
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thebrandnewdiva wrote: »
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….
Maybe the type of pizza or chicken doesn't work with their calorie limits on a regular day. Or the amount they want to eat is higher than usual
again that does not make them "bad" or "cheats"....
food = food, assigning moral values to it is useless and counterproductive0 -
thebrandnewdiva wrote: »
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….
Maybe the type of pizza or chicken doesn't work with their calorie limits on a regular day. Or the amount they want to eat is higher than usual
again that does not make them "bad" or "cheats"....
food = food, assigning moral values to it is useless and counterproductive
^^ that.
food is food. it fits in your calories or it doesn't. going over your calories isn't the end of the world. i do it all the time and have managed to lose 70 pounds and am still losing. i eat what i want.0 -
thebrandnewdiva wrote: »
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….
Maybe the type of pizza or chicken doesn't work with their calorie limits on a regular day. Or the amount they want to eat is higher than usual
again that does not make them "bad" or "cheats"....
food = food, assigning moral values to it is useless and counterproductive
Co-signed.0 -
thebrandnewdiva wrote: »
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….
Maybe the type of pizza or chicken doesn't work with their calorie limits on a regular day. Or the amount they want to eat is higher than usual
again that does not make them "bad" or "cheats"....
food = food, assigning moral values to it is useless and counterproductivecallsitlikeiseeit wrote: »thebrandnewdiva wrote: »
having somthing i wouldnt usually have like chilli or a chicken dinner or pizza
why would those foods be cheating? They can be part of an overall healthy diet….
Maybe the type of pizza or chicken doesn't work with their calorie limits on a regular day. Or the amount they want to eat is higher than usual
again that does not make them "bad" or "cheats"....
food = food, assigning moral values to it is useless and counterproductive
^^ that.
food is food. it fits in your calories or it doesn't. going over your calories isn't the end of the world. i do it all the time and have managed to lose 70 pounds and am still losing. i eat what i want.
yh maybe it shouldn't be called a cheat more like a reward it may be within my goals but its not the food that i should be eating all week.
also food = food no. on that bases i could eat sweets and chocolate all day and keep within my goals. if you want to tone up then you need to reduce carbs and increase protein its not all in the calories.0
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