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I realize the overall message is that you don't have to cut out all of the high calorie foods in life to lose weight, but these types of threads are annoying in their own way. Every time someone asks for cauliflower rice recipes, at least 2 people chime in "just eat regular rice!" Sometimes I want regular rice or regular pizza, and other times I want to eat a larger volume of something with a random lower calorie substitute. Both have their merits when losing weight.
Some people prefer to eat smaller portions of their regular foods. Others prefer to find substitutions. I like the mix of the two. Who cares how someone else does it??
This is the problem with posts that provide little or no context and are only a line or two long. I tend to want to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and assume they were trying to make an overly-broad statement about how we should allow room for what we enjoy, but without context, who knows? And the OP hasn't elaborated, so it's kind of pointless to try and interpret it (or get upset about said interpretations).
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I like the mix of the two. Who cares how someone else does it??
I'm guessing a lot of people have really struggled with weight issues and weight in general. Then, when they are successful, and see others falling into the traps they once fell into they genuinely want to help. I think it is great that most people I am guessing do really care about others and want to minimise their struggle. That's how it should be. Sometimes though it can be about showing off or being "part of the club" but I think that is less common really.
That said I do take your point about how irritating it can be when certain threads get derailed by constant interruptions of "just eat real rice yo!" and so on.0 -
I like the mix of the two. Who cares how someone else does it??
I'm guessing a lot of people have really struggled with weight issues and weight in general. Then, when they are successful, and see others falling into the traps they once fell into they genuinely want to help. I think it is great that most people I am guessing do really care about others and want to minimise their struggle. That's how it should be. Sometimes though it can be about showing off or being "part of the club" but I think that is less common really.
That said I do take your point about how irritating it can be when certain threads get derailed by constant interruptions of "just eat real rice yo!" and so on.
In general yes, this would make sense. But according to OP's profile, she has never fallen out of the morbidly obese category so far. So, starting a thread to judge others about their eating choices, it sounds at least ironic0 -
I like the mix of the two. Who cares how someone else does it??
I'm guessing a lot of people have really struggled with weight issues and weight in general. Then, when they are successful, and see others falling into the traps they once fell into they genuinely want to help. I think it is great that most people I am guessing do really care about others and want to minimise their struggle. That's how it should be. Sometimes though it can be about showing off or being "part of the club" but I think that is less common really.
That said I do take your point about how irritating it can be when certain threads get derailed by constant interruptions of "just eat real rice yo!" and so on.
In general yes, this would make sense. But according to OP's profile, she has never fallen out of the morbidly obese category so far. So, starting a thread to judge others about their eating choices, it sounds at least ironic
The newly converted tend to be the most zealous
It wasn't the best worded OP I have ever seen admittedly.
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ManiacalLaugh wrote: »I realize the overall message is that you don't have to cut out all of the high calorie foods in life to lose weight, but these types of threads are annoying in their own way. Every time someone asks for cauliflower rice recipes, at least 2 people chime in "just eat regular rice!" Sometimes I want regular rice or regular pizza, and other times I want to eat a larger volume of something with a random lower calorie substitute. Both have their merits when losing weight.
Some people prefer to eat smaller portions of their regular foods. Others prefer to find substitutions. I like the mix of the two. Who cares how someone else does it??
This is the problem with posts that provide little or no context and are only a line or two long. I tend to want to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and assume they were trying to make an overly-broad statement about how we should allow room for what we enjoy, but without context, who knows? And the OP hasn't elaborated, so it's kind of pointless to try and interpret it (or get upset about said interpretations).
I don't know about anyone else, but I read the line about cauliflower and vegetables being ok but not a pizza substitute as saying to just eat the real thing. Which is fine, if you find it worthwhile to do so. Others may want to have pizza more frequently, or have a larger volume of food, or just have something that fits into their diet more easily, in which case ingredient substitutions can be a valuable tool.0 -
If the OP means:
"I have struggled with binge eating and found that I struggled harder when I tried to eliminate certain foods. Due to my problem, I would just go back to my binging habits. It's been much easier for me to work in some junk food on occasion. I find that I don't binge if I eat a little bit here and there. It worked well for me emotionally, mentally and physically and I hope that by sharing this, maybe it will help someone who has had the same struggle," then that's what they should say.
"You're doing it wrong!" is not the same thing. It may or may not have the same motive behind it, but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been. It comes across as confrontational, condescending and woefully ignorant of the many, various issues other may be facing.
It's also incorrect, as skipping pizza does not mean that someone is dieting "the wrong way."0 -
but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
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but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
That's a good point.
On the other hand, I don't know what a bun fight is, so that might be interesting. Off to Google I go. 
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As with my understanding of Spanish, I get the gist of this, though I can't quite translate it to English.but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
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Google "what is a bun fight" and you get:
bun·fight
ˈbənˌfīt/
noun BRITISH informal humorous
noun: bun-fight
a tea party or other function, typically of a grand or official kind.
a heated argument or exchange.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »
As with my understanding of Spanish, I get the gist of this, though I can't quite translate it to English.but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
I was having a Vera And Phil* when I heard the dog and bone** go. It's bound to be the trouble*** I thought. She's having a bubble**** if she thinks I am going to answer I thought.
(* Vera Lynn & The Philharmonic = gin & tonic)
(** dog and bone = telephone)
(*** trouble and strife = wife)
(**** bubble bath = laugh)0 -
Google "what is a bun fight" and you get:
bun·fight
ˈbənˌfīt/
noun BRITISH informal humorous
noun: bun-fight
a tea party or other function, typically of a grand or official kind.
a heated argument or exchange.
And I think that now wins for the strangest set of definitions. But it's causing a great image of the mods sitting around a table having proper tea and then suddenly throwing cakes and biscuits at each other...0 -
Google "what is a bun fight" and you get:
bun·fight
ˈbənˌfīt/
noun BRITISH informal humorous
noun: bun-fight
a tea party or other function, typically of a grand or official kind.
a heated argument or exchange.
And I think that now wins for the strangest set of definitions. But it's causing a great image of the mods sitting around a table having proper tea and then suddenly throwing cakes and biscuits at each other...
Agreed! Two very different things! I envisioned the Queen throwing her scones and crumpets.
I didn't pop open the American Heritage, but Internet has brought a lot of new info into my world. Some of it is wrong, but some is quite helpful, like, "What are these Brits (or Aussies) talking about?" If only the Brits would speak English, we would all be able to understand them. 0 -
To be fair to the OP I think the message that they were attempting to convey was if your diet set up means that you want a slice of pizza yet cannot fit it into your allowance that would tend to suggest the set up is unnecessarily restrictive.
This is in turn puts will power in a straight fight against deprivation and over time deprivation is a much stronger force meaning more likelihood of failure.
Let's give people the benefit of the doubt here...
That's the rub. I eat a ketogenic diet for improved health. It has helped my autoimmune issues and fixed my prediabetes. I feel a great deal happier, healthier and more energetic. A slice of pizza would derail my WOE for at least a few days, it would affect my blood glucose, and would set off a flare-up of symptoms.
I don't feel deprived. I strongly prefer feeling good to having a pizza crust. I'm not doing it wrong. Even if I give the benefit of the doubt, the original statement is far to broad of a generalization.
Perhaps if the OP set up their WOE so they couldn't have the pizza it would be wrong for them. It is the best choice for me. What is true for one is not true for another.0 -
Pizza Veddy bad....Veddy bad indeed
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
As with my understanding of Spanish, I get the gist of this, though I can't quite translate it to English.but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
I was having a Vera And Phil* when I heard the dog and bone** go. It's bound to be the trouble*** I thought. She's having a bubble**** if she thinks I am going to answer I thought.
(* Vera Lynn & The Philharmonic = gin & tonic)
(** dog and bone = telephone)
(*** trouble and strife = wife)
(**** bubble bath = laugh)
I approve of this post
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Matt200goal wrote: »One slice, sure. Me, on the other hand (see below):
#thestruggleisreal
but I can't stop laughing every time I see this.0 -
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
As with my understanding of Spanish, I get the gist of this, though I can't quite translate it to English.but it's impossible to tell what the motive may have been.
Right and in the absence of evidence either way we have two compelling options:- to frame the discussion in a positive way so that as many people are possible reading get the benefit of a reasoned debate
- to frame the discussion negatively so it ultimately becomes a bun fight, the Mods get a headache and everyone skulks off in a strop
I know which one I prefer.
I was having a Vera And Phil* when I heard the dog and bone** go. It's bound to be the trouble*** I thought. She's having a bubble**** if she thinks I am going to answer I thought.
(* Vera Lynn & The Philharmonic = gin & tonic)
(** dog and bone = telephone)
(*** trouble and strife = wife)
(**** bubble bath = laugh)
I laugh every time I see cockney; I feel like slang is the derpiest thing ever. Slang in England? It's the highest level thing I've ever seen. England's "uneducated" make me feel dumb... :sad:0 -
I didn't hijack someone else's post. I started my own.
I had just finished reading two posts. One was someone really wanting pizza, and asking for a "healthy" substitute. The suggestions were cauliflower crust or a tortilla.
The other was about overnight oats, yogurt, milk, oats, and berries. And because it added up to be a larger number of calories than they expected they referred to it as being bad.
It was reactionary. I didn't make fun of the cauliflower crust, but pizza is not inherently unhealthy. And 350 calories for breakfast isn't "bad".
I've never made it out of being morbidly obese because in previous attempts I had been overly restrictive and then fall off and would binge. Using MFP I've gotten to my lowest weight in years, and I'm thankful for it.0 -
Speaking for myself... I have NEVER had just one slice of pizza. If I'm going to have a pizza, then 3 or 4 slices is what I'm having. One little piece would just be a tease
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Agreed. But I still want the entire pizza or close to it. But I can fit that in every weekend.0
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I think everyone can work pizza into their diet. Some people just choose not to do that. It's not wrong. It's just different.
I'd rather have healthier food that tastes better. I get my lovely and important vitamins and minerals and I get to eat something that tastes better than pizza, so it's all win there for me. Different strokes!
Blasphemy! Nothing tastes better than pizza. Well maybe bacon. lol0 -
I didn't hijack someone else's post. I started my own.
I had just finished reading two posts. One was someone really wanting pizza, and asking for a "healthy" substitute. The suggestions were cauliflower crust or a tortilla.
The other was about overnight oats, yogurt, milk, oats, and berries. And because it added up to be a larger number of calories than they expected they referred to it as being bad.
It was reactionary. I didn't make fun of the cauliflower crust, but pizza is not inherently unhealthy. And 350 calories for breakfast isn't "bad".
I've never made it out of being morbidly obese because in previous attempts I had been overly restrictive and then fall off and would binge. Using MFP I've gotten to my lowest weight in years, and I'm thankful for it.
I think you have the right attitude and it was a good post! Pizza crust made with cauliflower, it's just wrong!!
You've got this!!0
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