Counting Carbs to loose 70 lbs.
walker1world
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I am trying to loose 70 more pounds counting carbs. I am new to this my Fitness pal so I am trying to learn how to use this to help me get there.
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Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs0
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Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
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Hi, walker1world. I hear you. My body seems to over react to carbs as well. You can adjust the proportion of the macronutrients to help tracking. I lowered my carbs and increased protein. I like looking at the graph in the app to see how I'm doing. Sounds like you're on the right track. Good luck on your weight loss journey.
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walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
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walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
I am sure you know there is a large segment of the medical community that disagree that it is as simple as calories in and calories out.
That concept totally disregards the role of insulin in fat storage. If our bodies were a simple flame that burns everything it uses the same way that concept would hold true. The way my doctor put it, once your body has the 9 tsp of sugar required in the blood insulin stores the rest. Your body has a set number of calories that it needs to supply energy to suport the demad you put on it, so every calorie that your body stores it sends a message yo the brain saying you need to replace that calorie with more food.
If you replace it with more sugar then it becomes a viscous cycle. My doctor says this is why people tend to eat high carb food to the point of exhuastion.
It also would imply that the millions of people, actually the majority of people in america, who are over weight are just to lazy to do more. People should really ask them selves how does your body store fat.
That doesn't mean total calorie intake should be ignored and I am using my fitness to accomplish that goal. The pholosophy that I have come believe says there are good calories that your body needs and uses to build muscle and converts into energy and the there are bad calories that start a chain reaction that leads to a lot of bad things.0 -
walker1world wrote: »walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
I am sure you know there is a large segment of the medical community that disagree that it is as simple as calories in and calories out.
That concept totally disregards the role of insulin in fat storage. If our bodies were a simple flame that burns everything it uses the same way that concept would hold true. The way my doctor put it, once your body has the 9 tsp of sugar required in the blood insulin stores the rest. Your body has a set number of calories that it needs to supply energy to suport the demad you put on it, so every calorie that your body stores it sends a message yo the brain saying you need to replace that calorie with more food.
If you replace it with more sugar then it becomes a viscous cycle. My doctor says this is why people tend to eat high carb food to the point of exhuastion.
It also would imply that the millions of people, actually the majority of people in america, who are over weight are just to lazy to do more. People should really ask them selves how does your body store fat.
That doesn't mean total calorie intake should be ignored and I am using my fitness to accomplish that goal. The pholosophy that I have come believe says there are good calories that your body needs and uses to build muscle and converts into energy and the there are bad calories that start a chain reaction that leads to a lot of bad things.
That 'large segment' of the medical community that don't agree with CICO are wrong, I'm afraid. It really is just down to calories. Protein spikes insulin too, you know. Yes, some people have trouble controlling carbs, but that's not the fault of carbs.
And yes, actually, millions of people who are overweight ARE just too lazy. If you're overweight then you're consuming more calories than you burn and you need to either burn more or eat less. A calorie is a calorie, just like an inch is an inch. There are no 'good' calories or 'bad' calories, it's a unit of measurement. Of course, you need adequate macros and micros in order to get proper nutrition.0 -
walker1world wrote: »walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
I am sure you know there is a large segment of the medical community that disagree that it is as simple as calories in and calories out.
That concept totally disregards the role of insulin in fat storage. If our bodies were a simple flame that burns everything it uses the same way that concept would hold true. The way my doctor put it, once your body has the 9 tsp of sugar required in the blood insulin stores the rest. Your body has a set number of calories that it needs to supply energy to suport the demad you put on it, so every calorie that your body stores it sends a message yo the brain saying you need to replace that calorie with more food.
If you replace it with more sugar then it becomes a viscous cycle. My doctor says this is why people tend to eat high carb food to the point of exhuastion.
It also would imply that the millions of people, actually the majority of people in america, who are over weight are just to lazy to do more. People should really ask them selves how does your body store fat.
That doesn't mean total calorie intake should be ignored and I am using my fitness to accomplish that goal. The pholosophy that I have come believe says there are good calories that your body needs and uses to build muscle and converts into energy and the there are bad calories that start a chain reaction that leads to a lot of bad things.
If a doctor tells you that CICO does not work, then you need to find a new doctor. Being lazy has nothing to do with being obese, as you do not need exercise to lose weight. Exercise is good for overall health and can help you burn more calories. However, if you sit on the couch all day and are in a calorie deficit then you will lose weight.
Fat storage only occurs in a caloric surplus, sugar intake has nothing to do with it; again, unless you have a medical condition and then you need medication to regulate your insulin levels, but the basic principles of CICO still apply.
If you don't believe me then just take a normal person and feed them a diet of 10% carbs but put them in a caloric surplus and see if they gain weight. My money is on them gaining weight....
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I'm trying to lower carbs too! Add me if you'd like. There is a group for people wanting no/less carbs too. 0
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Speaking from my own experience, I don't handle carbs well and when eating a 1200/kcal diet that includes <20g carbs my fat loss has been much greater than when doing the exact same thing (1200/kcal and same exercise) but eating normal carb intake. My scale measures weight and body composition, so I can see it's not just water weight that's lost, but fat. I do weigh my food and keep track of all of my macros. Only once I lowered the carbs did the weight start melting off. I needed to replace that energy source with something so decided to up my healthy fats and keep my protein at a moderate level. I eat clean and nothing is processed.
Not everybody is built the same and we don't all process foods the same. While CICO may work perfectly for some, it didn't work for me. My BMR was too low and I'd have needed to exercise hours every day to increase my burn enough to make a difference and have a bigger deficit. I was not going to restrict calories less than 1200 and I'm not exercising 3 hours a day.
The best way we can all support each other is to offer encouragement and share our stories. What doesn't help at all is telling someone they they should fit into the same CICO mold. If weight loss were as simple as that, there would only be one way to lose weight and nobody would be overweight.2 -
Similar situation. My doctor told me to eat low-carb and have not had potatoes, pasta, rice and bread in 6 weeks. Still haven't lost much. Kind of bummed.0
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Similar situation. My doctor told me to eat low-carb and have not had potatoes, pasta, rice and bread in 6 weeks. Still haven't lost much. Kind of bummed.
I see on your profile it says you have lost 16 lbs that's good news. I can only wait to get that point. It's not a quick fix so I try not to get wrapped around every one's huge weight loss stories. Yes it would be nice to shed 50 pounds in 2 weeks and then eat what ever I want but that is not healthy and its not the way the body works. I am astonished by the weight you have lossed I am sure it will come.
I am surprised what I have learned listening to Jimmy Moore's podcast show called living lavida low carb. It has over 900 episodes that cover all kinds of health food topics. When I here a guest that resonates with me I then go study what they have to offer. I have really grown my knowledge about how to keep my body in ketosis from that podcast series. You may want to give that a shot .
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Loving the discussion about low carbs, healthy fats, etc. I too am a believer that it is not just a case of Calories IN, Calories Out, and that calories react differently in the body.
Yes, I am finding the macros on this site confusing...but as I don't have a smartphone, therefore able to get an App to do the calculations, just have to work with what is here.
Education and support is the key here...Thanks all0 -
Loving the discussion about low carbs, healthy fats, etc. I too am a believer that it is not just a case of Calories IN, Calories Out, and that calories react differently in the body.
Yes, I am finding the macros on this site confusing...but as I don't have a smartphone, therefore able to get an App to do the calculations, just have to work with what is here.
Education and support is the key here...Thanks all
if it is not just calories in vs calories out then please explain to me how people gain weight….0 -
I think calories in vs. calories out is relevant to any diet, including low carb and keto. The one thing that I actually hate about the Atkin's diet is that he virtually puts no restriction on how many calories you consume as long as you stay below a certain carbohydrate threshold. A low-carb diet is anything less than 100g of carbs; keto is really considered anything sub-30g of carbs (although you can get into ketosis on a <100g diet).
I also read earlier that someone had mentioned that protein causes an increase in the insulin response. That isn't necessarily true. That will happen when you supplement protein with glucose of some sort, and on most variants of low-carb diets glucose intake should be minimal. With the ketogenic diet, if your insulin is spiked you completely fall out of ketosis ultimately means that you aren't following the diet's restrictions. Sugar intake has a strong influence over fat retention. It's true that while even consuming sugar in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight and even fat, no doubt. But the amount of sugar you consume while in that caloric deficit will directly effect the rate at which your fat cells shrink.
I will agree with point that it is important to keep track of macronutrients: carbohydrates, protein, fat. If you're cutting down one category of macros, you really need to be compensating by consuming more of the other two. You do not want to be starving yourself. With keto, I do find it incredibly challenging to meet my caloric goals but I do try hard (and still never meet them head-on).
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CommandaPanda wrote: »I think calories in vs. calories out is relevant to any diet, including low carb and keto. The one thing that I actually hate about the Atkin's diet is that he virtually puts no restriction on how many calories you consume as long as you stay below a certain carbohydrate threshold. A low-carb diet is anything less than 100g of carbs; keto is really considered anything sub-30g of carbs (although you can get into ketosis on a <100g diet).
I also read earlier that someone had mentioned that protein causes an increase in the insulin response. That isn't necessarily true. That will happen when you supplement protein with glucose of some sort, and on most variants of low-carb diets glucose intake should be minimal. With the ketogenic diet, if your insulin is spiked you completely fall out of ketosis ultimately means that you aren't following the diet's restrictions. Sugar intake has a strong influence over fat retention. It's true that while even consuming sugar in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight and even fat, no doubt. But the amount of sugar you consume while in that caloric deficit will directly effect the rate at which your fat cells shrink.
I will agree with point that it is important to keep track of macronutrients: carbohydrates, protein, fat. If you're cutting down one category of macros, you really need to be compensating by consuming more of the other two. You do not want to be starving yourself. With keto, I do find it incredibly challenging to meet my caloric goals but I do try hard (and still never meet them head-on).
please provide peer reviewed sources to back up your claims in the bolded part.
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CommandaPanda wrote: »I think calories in vs. calories out is relevant to any diet, including low carb and keto. The one thing that I actually hate about the Atkin's diet is that he virtually puts no restriction on how many calories you consume as long as you stay below a certain carbohydrate threshold. A low-carb diet is anything less than 100g of carbs; keto is really considered anything sub-30g of carbs (although you can get into ketosis on a <100g diet).
I also read earlier that someone had mentioned that protein causes an increase in the insulin response. That isn't necessarily true. That will happen when you supplement protein with glucose of some sort, and on most variants of low-carb diets glucose intake should be minimal. With the ketogenic diet, if your insulin is spiked you completely fall out of ketosis ultimately means that you aren't following the diet's restrictions. Sugar intake has a strong influence over fat retention. It's true that while even consuming sugar in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight and even fat, no doubt. But the amount of sugar you consume while in that caloric deficit will directly effect the rate at which your fat cells shrink.
I will agree with point that it is important to keep track of macronutrients: carbohydrates, protein, fat. If you're cutting down one category of macros, you really need to be compensating by consuming more of the other two. You do not want to be starving yourself. With keto, I do find it incredibly challenging to meet my caloric goals but I do try hard (and still never meet them head-on).
please provide peer reviewed sources to back up your claims in the bolded part.
protein spikes your insulin levels, that is a fact.
After thorough searching, you are correct. I was wrong in stating that protein has no effect on insulin response. It absolutely does. Apparently it has a little bit of a different response from how Carbohydrates effect insulin which explains why low-carb diets seem to have accelerated weight loss effects over high-fat, high-protein diets.
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Speaking as someone who is sensitive to sugar (I have reactive hypoglycemia), low carb is absolutely the only thing that works for me. It just makes sense for my body, and I feel so much better when I do it. Weight loss isn't one size fits all, have to find what works for you, and what you can maintain. Low carb for me is higher protein, more veggies, more fruit, less simple sugars. Def not an atkins diet in my case.1
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christina135 wrote: »Speaking as someone who is sensitive to sugar (I have reactive hypoglycemia), low carb is absolutely the only thing that works for me. It just makes sense for my body, and I feel so much better when I do it. Weight loss isn't one size fits all, have to find what works for you, and what you can maintain. Low carb for me is higher protein, more veggies, more fruit, less simple sugars. Def not an atkins diet in my case.
yes, you have a medical condition that makes you sensitive to sugar, hence you need to avoid sugar, makes total sense. However, that does invalidate the principle of calories in vs calories out.
CICO applies to everyone, even those with a medical condition.0 -
CommandaPanda wrote: »CommandaPanda wrote: »I think calories in vs. calories out is relevant to any diet, including low carb and keto. The one thing that I actually hate about the Atkin's diet is that he virtually puts no restriction on how many calories you consume as long as you stay below a certain carbohydrate threshold. A low-carb diet is anything less than 100g of carbs; keto is really considered anything sub-30g of carbs (although you can get into ketosis on a <100g diet).
I also read earlier that someone had mentioned that protein causes an increase in the insulin response. That isn't necessarily true. That will happen when you supplement protein with glucose of some sort, and on most variants of low-carb diets glucose intake should be minimal. With the ketogenic diet, if your insulin is spiked you completely fall out of ketosis ultimately means that you aren't following the diet's restrictions. Sugar intake has a strong influence over fat retention. It's true that while even consuming sugar in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight and even fat, no doubt. But the amount of sugar you consume while in that caloric deficit will directly effect the rate at which your fat cells shrink.
I will agree with point that it is important to keep track of macronutrients: carbohydrates, protein, fat. If you're cutting down one category of macros, you really need to be compensating by consuming more of the other two. You do not want to be starving yourself. With keto, I do find it incredibly challenging to meet my caloric goals but I do try hard (and still never meet them head-on).
please provide peer reviewed sources to back up your claims in the bolded part.
protein spikes your insulin levels, that is a fact.
After thorough searching, you are correct. I was wrong in stating that protein has no effect on insulin response. It absolutely does. Apparently it has a little bit of a different response from how Carbohydrates effect insulin which explains why low-carb diets seem to have accelerated weight loss effects over high-fat, high-protein diets.
low carb diets appear to have accelerated weight loss because initially you lose more water weight then you would if you were on a high protein/moderate carb diet. However, over the long run - six to 12 months out - weight loss will the be the same in low carb/high protein and moderate carb/moderate protein diets.
also, a lot of studies about low carb diets tend to not control for protein intake, which then skews said studies toward showing more weight loss for low carb diets.0 -
Join one of the low carb groups here.0
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Low carb is a dietary preference and if that's yours and you can stick with it then good luck to you...it's not magic though (although the initial water weight reduction does give a good emotional boost)
Weight loss is a result of calorie control ..CI<CO. That is the overriding banner of any weight loss.
Personally I found I always lost scale weight quickly going low carb and gained just as quickly when I fell off it, because it actually in the long run didn't suit me. But a CICO approach allowing me to eat everything worked.
There is no magic to low carb ..it's a matter of preference
Good luck to you
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@walker1world clearly you are on the right track in your case. Counting carbs is mission critical for many of us. I just wish I had not taken 63 years to learn that simple fact. Like @rabbitjb states there is no magic to low carb. We tend to think magic is involved just because we do not understand the science behind the results. Lunar eclipses are one example.
Best of success. Welcome to MFP forums.0 -
walker1world wrote: »I am trying to loose 70 more pounds counting carbs. I am new to this my Fitness pal so I am trying to learn how to use this to help me get there.
Hi! I am a type 2 diabetic and counting carbs has helped me lower my fasting blood sugar readings from over 200 to under 100. I keep my carbs under 100g per day and avoid as much processed sugar and wheat as possible. Most of my carbs come from fruits and vegetables.
You can set your macros in MFP to help keep you at a certain percentage of a certain type of food. For instance I have my macros set at 15% carbs, 25% protein and 60% fat. You have to really consider the food before eating it. I pre-log every item before eating it to make sure that it doesn't mess up my macro balance.
My diary is open so you can look to see what types of foods I eat to get a better idea of what a lower carb diet looks like. Or friend me if you want - I'm always glad to try to help others out.0 -
walker1world wrote: »walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
I am sure you know there is a large segment of the medical community that disagree that it is as simple as calories in and calories out.
That concept totally disregards the role of insulin in fat storage. If our bodies were a simple flame that burns everything it uses the same way that concept would hold true. The way my doctor put it, once your body has the 9 tsp of sugar required in the blood insulin stores the rest. Your body has a set number of calories that it needs to supply energy to suport the demad you put on it, so every calorie that your body stores it sends a message yo the brain saying you need to replace that calorie with more food.
If you replace it with more sugar then it becomes a viscous cycle. My doctor says this is why people tend to eat high carb food to the point of exhuastion.
It also would imply that the millions of people, actually the majority of people in america, who are over weight are just to lazy to do more. People should really ask them selves how does your body store fat.
That doesn't mean total calorie intake should be ignored and I am using my fitness to accomplish that goal. The pholosophy that I have come believe says there are good calories that your body needs and uses to build muscle and converts into energy and the there are bad calories that start a chain reaction that leads to a lot of bad things.
Try the Low Carber Daily group. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Everyone there is following one form or another of low carb. The majority over there think there is just a bit of magic in LCHF eating for weight loss and improved health. It just works really well for some. 0 -
walker1world wrote: »walker1world wrote: »Just eat at a calorie deficit, you should really be counting all your macronutrients, protein and fat, as well as carbs
Thank you for your support. Your suggestion would imply that weight loss is a one size fit all issue. That would imply that the reason we gain weight is all the same, that we all react to fat, sugar,and protein the same.
I believe we all react to carbs differently, carbs happen to be something that stimulates insulin at a factor 6 for me versus the normal level. Therefore if I don't pay a closer attention to my carbs my liver will produce insulin and store more triglycerides.
I wish I could just monitor everything I eat and just do the energy balance thing but given my family history and the damage I have already done to my body by being reckless in my eating. I am now pretty sure I need to count my carbs as my main focus. I also am paying attention to my over all calorie intake but I am focusing on my carbs.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing, the bottom line is people may want to think about what is driving their weight gain before prescribing to any plan.
unless you have a medical condition that you did not identify in your OP then there is no reason to avoid carbs. Weight gain and loss boils down to the same basic concept for all of us, which is CICO = Calories In VS Calories Out.
Even if you do have a medical condition it still boils down to CICO; however, you may need medication to regulate the CI side.
I am sure you know there is a large segment of the medical community that disagree that it is as simple as calories in and calories out.
That concept totally disregards the role of insulin in fat storage. If our bodies were a simple flame that burns everything it uses the same way that concept would hold true. The way my doctor put it, once your body has the 9 tsp of sugar required in the blood insulin stores the rest. Your body has a set number of calories that it needs to supply energy to suport the demad you put on it, so every calorie that your body stores it sends a message yo the brain saying you need to replace that calorie with more food.
If you replace it with more sugar then it becomes a viscous cycle. My doctor says this is why people tend to eat high carb food to the point of exhuastion.
It also would imply that the millions of people, actually the majority of people in america, who are over weight are just to lazy to do more. People should really ask them selves how does your body store fat.
That doesn't mean total calorie intake should be ignored and I am using my fitness to accomplish that goal. The pholosophy that I have come believe says there are good calories that your body needs and uses to build muscle and converts into energy and the there are bad calories that start a chain reaction that leads to a lot of bad things.
Try the Low Carber Daily group. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Everyone there is following one form or another of low carb. The majority over there think there is just a bit of magic in LCHF eating for weight loss and improved health. It just works really well for some.
Thanks for your remarks.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@walker1world clearly you are on the right track in your case. Counting carbs is mission critical for many of us. I just wish I had not taken 63 years to learn that simple fact. Like @rabbitjb states there is no magic to low carb. We tend to think magic is involved just because we do not understand the science behind the results. Lunar eclipses are one example.
Best of success. Welcome to MFP forums.
@galehawkins, thanks for the encouraging words. I agree it's not magic to you and i, but it is vodo to people that believe in the calories in calories out approach to weight loss.0 -
walker1world wrote: »I am trying to loose 70 more pounds counting carbs. I am new to this my Fitness pal so I am trying to learn how to use this to help me get there.
Hi! I am a type 2 diabetic and counting carbs has helped me lower my fasting blood sugar readings from over 200 to under 100. I keep my carbs under 100g per day and avoid as much processed sugar and wheat as possible. Most of my carbs come from fruits and vegetables.
You can set your macros in MFP to help keep you at a certain percentage of a certain type of food. For instance I have my macros set at 15% carbs, 25% protein and 60% fat. You have to really consider the food before eating it. I pre-log every item before eating it to make sure that it doesn't mess up my macro balance.
My diary is open so you can look to see what types of foods I eat to get a better idea of what a lower carb diet looks like. Or friend me if you want - I'm always glad to try to help others out.
How are you doing on your journey?0 -
Low carb is a dietary preference and if that's yours and you can stick with it then good luck to you...it's not magic though (although the initial water weight reduction does give a good emotional boost)
Weight loss is a result of calorie control ..CI<CO. That is the overriding banner of any weight loss.
Personally I found I always lost scale weight quickly going low carb and gained just as quickly when I fell off it, because it actually in the long run didn't suit me. But a CICO approach allowing me to eat everything worked.
There is no magic to low carb ..it's a matter of preference
Good luck to you
Thanks for your response,
Your premise that CICO is the only factor in weight loss is interesting. So if a person never got enough sleep had an extremely stressful job and ate 1200 calories of ice cream and cake every day you think the should lose weight? Given that the average person burns 1500 calories everday?
I have never seen any study that would support that concept.
What about under weight? If calories in and calories out is the only factor to weight control. No other hormomes have any say in the matter then why are there more under weight people?
Calories in calories out is based on the law of thermo dynamics. Ok what about the law of averages? If there are no other factors to weight control then there should be as many extremely under weight people as there are over weight people it is the law of averages.
Excuse me if I don't fall for using physics to explain micro-biology. Biology has rules that compliment physics but physics can't be used to eplain why biological things happen.1 -
What's up my dude? Carb avoider here too. My body loves carbs, it is highly efficient at using carbs to keep me at points not where the scale doesn't move if I'm careful, and will move way up if I'm not careful. I'll join you on your meat and fat quest!1
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What's up my dude? Carb avoider here too. My body loves carbs, it is highly efficient at using carbs to keep me at points not where the scale doesn't move if I'm careful, and will move way up if I'm not careful. I'll join you on your meat and fat quest!
Thanks I am trying to lose 100 pounds by March 2017. I am at 47 now. With out low carb high fat I wouldn't be here. No cravings ability to fast at will.
I am in the middle of a 24 hour fast right now but I am grilling food for the family and I am not even tempted to eat any. I am truly not hungry. My body is Keto adapted so I am fueling off body fat it feels great.
I hope you are enjoying success as well.
Good looking out.1
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