Keto diet?
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I am thinking of trying keto, but the increased intake of fats is kind of scary for me. Is there anyone who has done keto available to give me any tips or advice on this? Is the increased intake of fats really more satisfying? Just trying to make sure I'm prepared for what I'm going to get myself into.
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I started around 5 weeks ago. I'm rarely hungry except right before a meal, and when I am I snack on cheese cubes.
I've only lost 15 lbs but then, I'm in this for the long haul so I'm not worried, I'm upping my exercise and know that I will slowly lose more fat and gain fitness.
The first week there were days I did not feel great but I knew my body was switching over, got through that and now I feel good with lots of energy.
I got rid of the stuff in my fridge and freezer that was high carb, it is helpful not to have it around for now.0 -
There's nothing wrong with fat, it's just a dense form of food energy. You're probably scared of fat because of the anti-fat propaganda left over from the 80s. I've done Keto. It works for some people. It's no more or less effective than any type of eating, you still have to eat at a caloric deficit to lose, same as anything else.
Some people will eat their keto meal of protein and fat and feel full a lot longer. I agree with this, because if I eat a bowl of cereal in the morning, I'm starving by 10am. If I eat two strips of bacon and an egg, I feel full longer.
It didn't work for me because I love pizza and I'm not willing to do some weird cauliflower crust and call it pizza. It might work for you. Give it a try for 2 or 3 weeks and make an informed decision on whether or not it's a dietary lifestyle you can live with.
Lots of people will tell you that you'll gain back all your weight loss as soon as you go off it. That's not true. When you first go on keto there will be a large amount of water weight loss, as there is with any low carb food lifestyle, and that water weight will go back on if you start eating higher carb again. However, any fat losses you have while on keto won't come back unless you start eating at a caloric surplus.0 -
Lucille4444 wrote: »I started around 5 weeks ago. I'm rarely hungry except right before a meal, and when I am I snack on cheese cubes.
I've only lost 15 lbs but then, I'm in this for the long haul so I'm not worried, I'm upping my exercise and know that I will slowly lose more fat and gain fitness.
The first week there were days I did not feel great but I knew my body was switching over, got through that and now I feel good with lots of energy.
I got rid of the stuff in my fridge and freezer that was high carb, it is helpful not to have it around for now.
I think 15lbs in 5 weeks is awesome. As far as exercise goes are you doing a mix of cardio and weights, or just one or the other?0 -
TheopolisAmbroiseIII wrote: »There's nothing wrong with fat, it's just a dense form of food energy. You're probably scared of fat because of the anti-fat propaganda left over from the 80s. I've done Keto. It works for some people. It's no more or less effective than any type of eating, you still have to eat at a caloric deficit to lose, same as anything else.
Some people will eat their keto meal of protein and fat and feel full a lot longer. I agree with this, because if I eat a bowl of cereal in the morning, I'm starving by 10am. If I eat two strips of bacon and an egg, I feel full longer.
It didn't work for me because I love pizza and I'm not willing to do some weird cauliflower crust and call it pizza. It might work for you. Give it a try for 2 or 3 weeks and make an informed decision on whether or not it's a dietary lifestyle you can live with.
Lots of people will tell you that you'll gain back all your weight loss as soon as you go off it. That's not true. When you first go on keto there will be a large amount of water weight loss, as there is with any low carb food lifestyle, and that water weight will go back on if you start eating higher carb again. However, any fat losses you have while on keto won't come back unless you start eating at a caloric surplus.
I think you're right and coming from WW I think has also helped fuel this fear of fat too. Thank you for the informative desponse, I think I'll give it a shot.0 -
I think 15lbs in 5 weeks is awesome. As far as exercise goes are you doing a mix of cardio and weights, or just one or the other?
To be fair, part of the loss when one goes low carb is water, so I am not expecting to lose 15 every 5 weeks. Hoping for 5-10.
I do a mix, have a little home gym I put together which works for me because for me it is more usable and accessible than going to a commercial gym.
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I am thinking of trying keto, but the increased intake of fats is kind of scary for me. Is there anyone who has done keto available to give me any tips or advice on this? Is the increased intake of fats really more satisfying? Just trying to make sure I'm prepared for what I'm going to get myself into.
I'm on it, I'm getting great results. I actually did it before for a year and I got the leanest I've ever been in my life. Fats aren't as bad for you as you think, the whole notion of low fat high carb is based on bad science, why do you think obesity is an epidemic now. That wasn't the case before the west switched to low fat. I've done both low fat and low carb and there is way less rebound when you do low carb. It took me a month of sugar withdrawal to break through and stop craving sugar so get ready for a bumpy ride. Few benefits are you get leaner and more muscular with way less exercise. Also you'll be using mfp to make sure you eat enough instead of making sure you don't over eat. After your body fully adjusts you won't have any cravings for rice, bread, or sugar which makes losing weight even easier. Good luck1 -
creyes4182 wrote: »I am thinking of trying keto, but the increased intake of fats is kind of scary for me. Is there anyone who has done keto available to give me any tips or advice on this? Is the increased intake of fats really more satisfying? Just trying to make sure I'm prepared for what I'm going to get myself into.
I'm on it, I'm getting great results. I actually did it before for a year and I got the leanest I've ever been in my life. Fats aren't as bad for you as you think, the whole notion of low fat high carb is based on bad science, why do you think obesity is an epidemic now. That wasn't the case before the west switched to low fat. I've done both low fat and low carb and there is way less rebound when you do low carb. It took me a month of sugar withdrawal to break through and stop craving sugar so get ready for a bumpy ride. Few benefits are you get leaner and more muscular with way less exercise. Also you'll be using mfp to make sure you eat enough instead of making sure you don't over eat. After your body fully adjusts you won't have any cravings for rice, bread, or sugar which makes losing weight even easier. Good luck
Im not looking forward to the sugar withdrawal, that's really going to be my struggle. What you say really makes sense in regards to low fat diets. I had little progress doing so, often losing and gaining the same weight over and over again. Looking forward to this! Thanks!0 -
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You could also consider leaning in - depends on the sort of person you are - but you might try doubling your protein and halving your carbs - while staying within calories. I have done a few experiments and although I do not avoid carbs, I cannot deny that I am less hungry on the days where I have lot of protein and less than 100g of carbs, so I can see the appeal in low carb from that point of view.
For me - I have stuck to this for more than six months by allowing carbs whenever I want them, hunger be damned as too much restriction leads me to obsess about a food. I eat a lot of rubbish but still lose weight - in return though, I am hungry A LOT. Somehow.. I am ok with that because I feel as though I can eat anything (in moderation). Not something that would work for everyone.
It is true that there are no free lunches - the road to weight-loss is challenging no matter how you approach it, but what all plans have in common is keeping to a deficit - no matter what you crave or how you fill your calories.1 -
I've done keto for the past month as it improves my arthritis symptoms. I find I eat less naturally and I'm rarely hungry. I don't have any trouble with cravings either. I'm not afraid of the fat as I've always eaten full fat milk and butter and so far my labs have always looked great. My grandma lived to 93 cooking everything in lard so that's further reassurance for me. lol1
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In no way am I bashing low carb high fat. I felt very satisfied and lost weight. Unfortunately my blood work got worse after a year (even though I lost weight and started running again that same year). So I always recommend people make sure to track their numbers (which, really, is simply good advice for everyone keto or no) and make sure their body is responding well. Simply my experience, and many people find the exact opposite happens. So, ymmv.1
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Have lost 42lbs on keto. There are a couple of groups on mfp that might help you. The low carber daily forum and the keto groups. Lots of friendly knowledgeable people where you would be very welcome. PS Google fathead pizza for the tastiest low carb pizza.1
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Here is a link to the main low carb (keto) group on MFP. There are lost of knowledgeable members who would be more than happy to give you tips and pointers so perhaps re-post your question there:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
Thank you everyone for the valuable I puHere is a link to the main low carb (keto) group on MFP. There are lost of knowledgeable members who would be more than happy to give you tips and pointers so perhaps re-post your question there:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Awesome!! Thank youso much.
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What might be beneficial is to start with low carb (see how your body responses) and then transition to keto if you do well with it. Not everyone does well with restrictive diets or even low carb diets. I certainly don't do well with either. But the low carb group has some good post to get you started with either path.
Fats can satiate a lot of people, but for me (calorie vs calorie), starches do a much better job.0 -
Couldn't agree with the above poster more.
This is a great piece of advice. When I first wanted to go keto (I didn't know it was called that at the time) I started lightly restricting carb intake down to 80g per day. Then I slowly wormed my way down to keto levels over the next couple of weeks until I was really comfortable cooking and operating sub-30g of carbs per day.
I think keto is great, I will always be a huge advocate for the lifestyle. But remembering back to when I first started, I didn't know what I could and could not eat. So higher carb restrictions gave me more room to make mistakes and fine-tune my meal plans. Most of the knowledge gained will be through experiential learning. Start simple and don't overcomplicate things too quickly. I see a lot of people wanting to do things like make their first "keto pizza" in the first week and they then express how difficult it is to stay within their macros, etc.
Check out the LC group that another poster mentioned above, you'll get a lot of support and ideas from there.0 -
Few things you should watch out for. On keto you urinate a lot and you don't hold on to salt as much. You have to replace it and also get enough magnesium and potassium or you may cramp up. You don't have to go crazy with the salt just put I pinch in if somethings bland. Spinach has a lot of magnesium so a serving should take care of that. Potassium is the tricker one since it's hard to get from low carb sources. I recommend low sodium salt(has potassium in it) and avocados. Don't be afraid of carbs from fiber, eat lots of broccoli and spinach. Coconut oil is really really good for this diet as well. Without getting too technical the type of fat in that oil is really easy to break down into energy and it helps with keto. Nuts are good but they are easy to over eat. Imo almonds are the safest. Macadamia nuts are almost pure fat and really good. I use them if I want to get my macros right. As far as sweeteners go I use erythritol(also called xylitol) our body's can't do anything with it so it just goes through, sometimes I use stevia too. Splenda stalls me out for some reason, for most people it's ok though.1
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Next week marks 3 months keto for me and I can't say enough good things about it. While I haven't experienced the dramatic weight loss that many report (about 14 pounds so far), I can say I've felt better than I have in years. More energy on less sleep, not feeling like a sugar junkie anymore, fitting into clothes I haven't been able to wear in six years, etc. I can't say enough great things about it, but of course everyone is different so I can only encourage you to try it out and see if it works for you. I will say this: you won't get "keto flu" if you manage your electrolytes correctly.0
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I decided to low carb it first to get the hang of things. Keto seemes bit complicated to begin with.Thanks for the helpful advice.What might be beneficial is to start with low carb (see how your body responses) and then transition to keto if you do well with it. Not everyone does well with restrictive diets or even low carb diets. I certainly don't do well with either.
But the low carb group has some good post to get you started with either path.
Fats can satiate a lot of people, but for me (calorie vs calorie), starches do a much better job.0 -
I did keto for 3 months with heavy weight training, I almost died. Very low energy levels and workouts suffered. WIthout keto I lost just as much weight and got more vascular. It is not necessary to lose weight a deficit is. Whatever works for you.0
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Keto working for me, and I have lots of energy and am lifting weights.0
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I've been doing keto for almost 4 months, and lost 35 lbs, although my weight loss has slowed recently due to higher caloric intake.
I started on low carb for about 1-2 weeks, and then made the jump to keto. I feel better on very low carb so I suddenly had more energy and the keto flu was gone. Keto flu is usually low electrolytes (salt, magnesium and potassium) plus a few days of your body adjusting to burning fats instead of carbs for fuel.
I hit a bit of that keto flu when I was low(er) carb (100-200g per day) without the health benefits that I am getting from keto. I dropped to about 20g of carbs per day, upped my salt intake to 3000-5000 mg per day and I feel really good.TheopolisAmbroiseIII wrote: »It didn't work for me because I love pizza and I'm not willing to do some weird cauliflower crust and call it pizza. It might work for you. Give it a try for 2 or 3 weeks and make an informed decision on whether or not it's a dietary lifestyle you can live with.
Ahhh, Grasshopper. You have much to learn.
A keto pizza skips the crust entirely.
On a microwaveable plate, place paper towel. Layer pepperoni so it overlaps over the plate. Spread some tomato sauce and some thinly sliced veggies and sprinkle cheese all over it. Nuke it to melt the cheese.
Keto pizza without cauliflower... I agree that cauliflower and pizza should never be combined.1 -
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Lucille4444 wrote: »
Figure of speech much?
Keto doesn't work for everyone.. neither does low carb. But if you want to test the theory on lifting and the association of carb... one you hit your lifting pletaeus.. come off keto and go moderate carb and see if you can get through all your plateaus.0 -
Could be a figure of speech, could be reality.Lucille4444 wrote: »
Figure of speech much?
Keto doesn't work for everyone.. neither does low carb. But if you want to test the theory on lifting and the association of carb... one you hit your lifting pletaeus.. come off keto and go moderate carb and see if you can get through all your plateaus.
I neither want nor need to test because it is all working for me, I am in keto, lifting, and losing weight, and feeling good. Why would you give me grief for simply reporting my experience? Keto indeed is not for everyone, but it is working for me, I have not said anything about those who choose different paths. Sheesh....
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Lucille4444 wrote: »
Could be a figure of speech, could be reality.Lucille4444 wrote: »
Figure of speech much?
Keto doesn't work for everyone.. neither does low carb. But if you want to test the theory on lifting and the association of carb... one you hit your lifting pletaeus.. come off keto and go moderate carb and see if you can get through all your plateaus.
I neither want nor need to test because it is all working for me, I am in keto, lifting, and losing weight, and feeling good. Why would you give me grief for simply reporting my experience? Keto indeed is not for everyone, but it is working for me, I have not said anything about those who choose different paths. Sheesh....
You are putting too much thought into my post. I am not give you grief by any means. Sorry if it came off that way.0 -
I am sorry back atcha for thinking it.0
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