Weight loss advice (i realise juicing is hated here)

blitz2011
blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
edited October 2015 in Health and Weight Loss
So there was a large response to my last post (not in the way i was expecting) so i thought i would post again this time asking for recommendation on what i should do instead of juicing, i am open minded and this site was the the inspiration for me wanting to start losing weight back in 2011. If someone has some good suggestions i will try it for a month and see if i get results and if so continue (if not probably do some more juicing)

I am a 30 year old male, 6'1, about 275lb and looking to get down to about 200lb, i have gym/swim access, not sure what else you would need to know?

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  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    The only thing you need to do to lose weight is eat in a calorie deficit
  • LadyLallybroch
    LadyLallybroch Posts: 36 Member
    Put your stats into MFP. Eat whatever you normally eat, or change it, whichever you prefer. Weigh and log every single thing you eat. Don't go over what MFP recommends. Exercise or eat less calorie dense foods if you find yourself hungry throughout the day.

    That's it. There's no special plan, no secret you haven't found. Just eat within your calories and you'll lose weight.
  • MsJulesRenee
    MsJulesRenee Posts: 1,180 Member
    edited October 2015
    Set up your MFP settings so it gives your calories allowed for your height, weight, and activity. Eat under those calories consistently (get a food scale and weigh everything) and boom! You will lose weight, it's really that simple. :) If you are not losing quickly enough lower your calories manually, about 100 per week, until you are. Don't even need to go to the gym unless you want to.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    1. Estimate how many calories would put you in a daily calorie deficit of about 750-1,000 per day (based on your size, age, and activity level).

    2. Eat that many calories per day, ensuring you get a variety of foods so that you're getting sufficent fat, protein, and micro nutrients.

    3. Exercise a bit

    4. Do this for a prolonged period of time.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Having only juice for 30 days doesn't sound healthy and safe, no. (yes, I know the guy on the movie did it).

    Why not use MFP?
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited October 2015
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    Well...not to be harsh...but those are all nothing but excuses.

    How badly do you want to lose the weight?

    As to the comment about "probably eating less than half of a male daily calorie count"...no you're not...or you'd be losing weight now.
  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    There's a food database on MFP that will give you nutritional information even for fresh food. :|

  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    What, specifically, do you find hard about logging? Most of what I eat doesn't have labels, so I usually use the recipe builder to calculate the calories for what I'm making. It's specifically BECAUSE I'm behind a computer all day that makes logging easier. Those of us with a baseline of computer literacy have a leg-up when it comes to logging, I think. We're more comfortable navigating the website/app and double-checking calorie counts.

    I usually spend 5-10 minutes a day logging what I plan to eat the next day, including adding stuff into recipe builder. Once you log for a few days, you have a baseline of frequently eaten foods in the program, so it gets even quicker.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    The reason people don't like juicing is that it's not necessary for weight loss, you're missing out on some nutrients and fiber from the produce you're juicing, and getting hangry from being on juice for a long period of time just isn't worth it. Also, if you're consuming a very low calorie content you could be doing more harm than good to your body by losing more lean muscle mass than you would otherwise.

    If you really like juicing then juice, just don't come into the general forums here looking for help with it, you're unlikely to find it. If you're truly open to losing weight in a better way:
    1. Input your data into MFP and plan to lose a reasonable amount each week (1.5 to 2 pounds)
    2. Follow MFP's calorie guidelines
    3. Log what you're eating honestly and accurately to verify you're eating as much as you think you are
    4. Strength train to minimize lean muscle loss
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    What, specifically, do you find hard about logging? Most of what I eat doesn't have labels, so I usually use the recipe builder to calculate the calories for what I'm making. It's specifically BECAUSE I'm behind a computer all day that makes logging easier. Those of us with a baseline of computer literacy have a leg-up when it comes to logging, I think. We're more comfortable navigating the website/app and double-checking calorie counts.

    I usually spend 5-10 minutes a day logging what I plan to eat the next day, including adding stuff into recipe builder. Once you log for a few days, you have a baseline of frequently eaten foods in the program, so it gets even quicker.

    I have not used that part since 2011, back then i used to just scan tins and boxes, maybe i just need to have another go at it.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited October 2015
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    What, specifically, do you find hard about logging? Most of what I eat doesn't have labels, so I usually use the recipe builder to calculate the calories for what I'm making. It's specifically BECAUSE I'm behind a computer all day that makes logging easier. Those of us with a baseline of computer literacy have a leg-up when it comes to logging, I think. We're more comfortable navigating the website/app and double-checking calorie counts.

    I usually spend 5-10 minutes a day logging what I plan to eat the next day, including adding stuff into recipe builder. Once you log for a few days, you have a baseline of frequently eaten foods in the program, so it gets even quicker.

    I have not used that part since 2011, back then i used to just scan tins and boxes, maybe i just need to have another go at it.

    Once you get past the first couple of days of finding your frequently used foods, I found it (the logging itself) was pretty easy. And if you have any questions, there are lots of people here to help you find the answers to your questions.
  • anglyn1
    anglyn1 Posts: 1,802 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    There are tons of entries for fresh foods. The app remembers your most recent and most frequent food items so after a week or two most of the entries will be easy to get to. There is also a recipe builder so you can enter and save the stats on recipes you make from scratch!
  • nm212
    nm212 Posts: 570 Member
    I don't see anything wrong with juicing to get you started on healthier eating and to cleanse out your system. However, 30 days sounds a bit outrageous to me. I've heard of 3 days to 10 days max, for cleansing and detox purposes. The easier way is to try to eat healthier foods and stay away from processed stuff! Log your calories, eat at a deficit, and you are good!!! Drink plenty of water throughout the day too! High fiber, high protein, and healthy carbs are fine. Hey, you can even have a treat if you want! MFP makes it easy. Just be patient and give yourself time to learn about your body. There might need to be some trial and error in the beginning.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    SueInAz wrote: »
    The reason people don't like juicing is that it's not necessary for weight loss, you're missing out on some nutrients and fiber from the produce you're juicing, and getting hangry from being on juice for a long period of time just isn't worth it. Also, if you're consuming a very low calorie content you could be doing more harm than good to your body by losing more lean muscle mass than you would otherwise.

    If you really like juicing then juice, just don't come into the general forums here looking for help with it, you're unlikely to find it. If you're truly open to losing weight in a better way:
    1. Input your data into MFP and plan to lose a reasonable amount each week (1.5 to 2 pounds)
    2. Follow MFP's calorie guidelines
    3. Log what you're eating honestly and accurately to verify you're eating as much as you think you are
    4. Strength train to minimize lean muscle loss

    " Follow MFP's calorie guidelines" where is that? What is the maximum recommended weekly lose?
    Would you say weights are better than cardio or swimming or is that just to mimimise muscle loss?
  • LeanButNotMean44
    LeanButNotMean44 Posts: 852 Member
    nm212 wrote: »
    I don't see anything wrong with juicing to get you started on healthier eating and to cleanse out your system. However, 30 days sounds a bit outrageous to me. I've heard of 3 days to 10 days max, for cleansing and detox purposes. The easier way is to try to eat healthier foods and stay away from processed stuff! Log your calories, eat at a deficit, and you are good!!! Drink plenty of water throughout the day too! High fiber, high protein, and healthy carbs are fine. Hey, you can even have a treat if you want! MFP makes it easy. Just be patient and give yourself time to learn about your body. There might need to be some trial and error in the beginning.

    THERE. IS. NOTHING. TO. CLEANSE OR DETOX.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    nm212 wrote: »
    I don't see anything wrong with juicing to get you started on healthier eating and to cleanse out your system. However, 30 days sounds a bit outrageous to me. I've heard of 3 days to 10 days max, for cleansing and detox purposes. The easier way is to try to eat healthier foods and stay away from processed stuff! Log your calories, eat at a deficit, and you are good!!! Drink plenty of water throughout the day too! High fiber, high protein, and healthy carbs are fine. Hey, you can even have a treat if you want! MFP makes it easy. Just be patient and give yourself time to learn about your body. There might need to be some trial and error in the beginning.

    Thanks, i do find the juicing gets me more prepared for eating healthy.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    I love this simulator to see what would happen if I made little tweaks to my plan

    https://www.supertracker.usda.gov/bwp/index.html

    After you answer some initial questions, you can customize it in "expert mode." It shows a prediction (and they take all kinds of research into account) of what specific changes to your intake or exercise will result in.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    nm212 wrote: »
    I don't see anything wrong with juicing to get you started on healthier eating and to cleanse out your system. However, 30 days sounds a bit outrageous to me. I've heard of 3 days to 10 days max, for cleansing and detox purposes. The easier way is to try to eat healthier foods and stay away from processed stuff! Log your calories, eat at a deficit, and you are good!!! Drink plenty of water throughout the day too! High fiber, high protein, and healthy carbs are fine. Hey, you can even have a treat if you want! MFP makes it easy. Just be patient and give yourself time to learn about your body. There might need to be some trial and error in the beginning.

    THERE. IS. NOTHING. TO. CLEANSE OR DETOX.

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/detox
    Believe me i needed to detox from my old "diet" :)
  • nm212
    nm212 Posts: 570 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    You should log your calories hun. It's calories in, calories out. If you either eat less than your daily calories , you will lose weight. OR Burn calories, say 300-500 calories burned a day, then you can eat more that day and still be in deficit! I would just log in my info into MFP and see what they give me . Without logging calories, it won't matter how much you exercise but it's great that you cook fresh!! You probably just need to work on portion control. Less carbs, more veggies.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    Then you would set your activity level to Sedentary and go from there. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided

    Quite a lot of the food I cook doesn't have labels either. But once I've found and entered all my common foods, it's there in Recent.
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,741 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    Well...not to be harsh...but those are all nothing but excuses.

    How badly do you want to lose the weight?

    As to the comment about "probably eating less than half of a male daily calorie count"...no you're not...or you'd be losing weight now.

    Actually, I think he said he "probably" needs less than half of a male daily calorie count, I'm guessing because he thinks he's too sedentary. Still not correct, though. No need to eat that few calories. But, he's not going to know any calorie range until he starts weighing and logging food.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    nm212 wrote: »
    I don't see anything wrong with juicing to get you started on healthier eating and to cleanse out your system. However, 30 days sounds a bit outrageous to me. I've heard of 3 days to 10 days max, for cleansing and detox purposes. The easier way is to try to eat healthier foods and stay away from processed stuff! Log your calories, eat at a deficit, and you are good!!! Drink plenty of water throughout the day too! High fiber, high protein, and healthy carbs are fine. Hey, you can even have a treat if you want! MFP makes it easy. Just be patient and give yourself time to learn about your body. There might need to be some trial and error in the beginning.

    Please tell us all what you're detoxing your body from by juicing for 3-10 days? Just one toxin.

    It'll 'cleanse' out your system all right, but not in a good or healthy way.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    The reason people don't like juicing is that it's not necessary for weight loss, you're missing out on some nutrients and fiber from the produce you're juicing, and getting hangry from being on juice for a long period of time just isn't worth it. Also, if you're consuming a very low calorie content you could be doing more harm than good to your body by losing more lean muscle mass than you would otherwise.

    If you really like juicing then juice, just don't come into the general forums here looking for help with it, you're unlikely to find it. If you're truly open to losing weight in a better way:
    1. Input your data into MFP and plan to lose a reasonable amount each week (1.5 to 2 pounds)
    2. Follow MFP's calorie guidelines
    3. Log what you're eating honestly and accurately to verify you're eating as much as you think you are
    4. Strength train to minimize lean muscle loss

    " Follow MFP's calorie guidelines" where is that? What is the maximum recommended weekly lose?
    Would you say weights are better than cardio or swimming or is that just to mimimise muscle loss?

    When you set up your MFP account, you should have been asked for your stats and activity level. Those determine the appropriate number of calories for you to eat.

    As for activities to do? None is better, both cardio and strength training have benefits. The BEST exercise is the kind you enjoy and will stick with. Exercise is for fitness. It can increase your deficit if you do enough of it, but you shouldn't rely on it for this. Create your deficit with your diet, eat back half your exercise calories. Do exercise to be fit.

    Muscle loss is minimized with resistance training and adequate protein intake.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    There are a number of people here who have desk jobs, do little exercise, and they still lose weight. CICO is what matters. "Detoxing" or "jumpstarting" aren't necessary.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    BZAH10 wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    Well...not to be harsh...but those are all nothing but excuses.

    How badly do you want to lose the weight?

    As to the comment about "probably eating less than half of a male daily calorie count"...no you're not...or you'd be losing weight now.

    Actually, I think he said he "probably" needs less than half of a male daily calorie count, I'm guessing because he thinks he's too sedentary. Still not correct, though. No need to eat that few calories. But, he's not going to know any calorie range until he starts weighing and logging food.

    Ahh true dat...I misread it.

    TY for the correction.
  • nm212
    nm212 Posts: 570 Member
    Losing weight is all about diet. Exercise is all about getting toned and increasing metabolism. Done together, it is great and enhances weight loss! If you don't do the diet and only exercise alone, there is more room for over-eating. So, I recommend both but diet is the most important! That's why you should log your calories and get a food scale! :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Eat 2000 calories

    Weigh your food, use the recipe builder to create your own, be accurate

    if you sit behind a computer all day logging is easier not harder

    And QUIT MAKING DUMB EXCUSES for why not. Find reasons why you can

  • bellaa_x0
    bellaa_x0 Posts: 1,062 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I find it hard to enter everything i'm eating, usually i cook from fresh and not everything has labels.
    I sit behind a computer all day, i'm sure i probably need half (if not less) of a male daily calorie count just to stay the same.

    I do use the app to track my weight, but not much else.

    i "cook from fresh" as well and have no issues logging.. it takes a few minutes each day - barely a commitment.