To Those Who Said I Couldn't
joshuakcaron
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Two months ago I started making baby steps towards making a permanent lifestyle change. I had been having medical problems and while running some tests the doctor recommended I lose some weight as my liver was beginning to look fatty. I lost 8lbs the first month off of minor changes to my life. I quit drinking energy drinks, started packing a lunch to work. Walked more often. After a month I went hard at the gym, I pushed myself to my limit and lost 16lbs in 2 weeks. I quickly discovered that going to the gym everyday was not realistic and so I adjusted. I was told I was eating too little and my body felt like I was too so I started eating a little more. A bunch of people said I would crash and burn come this point, but this has become the easiest thing in the world for me to do. Yes, exercising is a pain in my *kitten* and yes I hate that I can't pig out whenever I want just because I'm bored. But I've managed to adjust my lifestyle to a point where I'm still consistently losing 2-5 lbs a week while not feeling any stress from lack of nutrition or over exercising.
To those of you who said I'd crash and burn, I bid you adieu.
To those of you who said I'd crash and burn, I bid you adieu.
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Careful dude! You're only two months in! Come back in ten more months with washboard abs - then you can really put it to the trolls.
You're picking a rough row to hoe. Stay healthy. Good Luck.0 -
Good for you mate. Sometimes being told you can't do something is actually the best motivation tool you can get!0
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lol 8 weeks?
Thats nothing.
Remember you have to be in this for life!!!!
When you want to maintain later that is only a couple hundred calories more.
Your weight loss will slow down ...a lot!
The more you lose the less calories you have to work with ( you weigh less so you use less calories daily)
And lack of nutrition's can show up after a year...months weeks. Nobody knows...to recover from them is most of the time a long long process too.
People here try to help and depriving yourself and eating way under the recommended calorie allowance is NOT healthy. So dont cheer to quickly.
And yes for sure you can do it. Believing in your self is always good. But dont shout to hard or off the roofs..the road is long....very long like i said a life time long to get your right weight ...but above all to keep it there.
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BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »lol 8 weeks?
Thats nothing.
Remember you have to be in this for life!!!!
When you want to maintain later that is only a couple hundred calories more.
Your weight loss will slow down ...a lot!
The more you lose the less calories you have to work with ( you weigh less so you use less calories daily)
And lack of nutrition's can show up after a year...months weeks. Nobody knows...to recover from them is most of the time a long long process too.
People here try to help and depriving yourself and eating way under the recommended calorie allowance is NOT healthy. So dont cheer to quickly.
And yes for sure you can do it. Believing in your self is always good. But dont shout to hard or off the roofs..the road is long....very long like i said a life time long to get your right weight ...but above all to keep it there.
I lost and maintained for a long time before I fell off the deep end and gained again. I know the journey, I know how hard it was the first time around but this time around just felt so easy. I just hope I don't let outside influences dictate the lifestyle I live. Times will get hard again at some point and I can't let that be an excuse to fall into bad habits.0 -
joshuakcaron wrote: »BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »lol 8 weeks?
Thats nothing.
Remember you have to be in this for life!!!!
When you want to maintain later that is only a couple hundred calories more.
Your weight loss will slow down ...a lot!
The more you lose the less calories you have to work with ( you weigh less so you use less calories daily)
And lack of nutrition's can show up after a year...months weeks. Nobody knows...to recover from them is most of the time a long long process too.
People here try to help and depriving yourself and eating way under the recommended calorie allowance is NOT healthy. So dont cheer to quickly.
And yes for sure you can do it. Believing in your self is always good. But dont shout to hard or off the roofs..the road is long....very long like i said a life time long to get your right weight ...but above all to keep it there.
I lost and maintained for a long time before I fell off the deep end and gained again. I know the journey, I know how hard it was the first time around but this time around just felt so easy. I just hope I don't let outside influences dictate the lifestyle I live. Times will get hard again at some point and I can't let that be an excuse to fall into bad habits.
I can also cut the calories and lose really fast. But. I've gained it back (and lost it again) for literally a decade. This time I'm going slowly, so I can master a lifestyle change for the rest of my life, and can master the art of maintenance like you mentioned above. It might be easy this time for you but if there's a next time that might not be so easy. Your above quote seems like it was written by a seasoned weight loss person as opposed to your initial post that pushed some buttons0 -
8 weeks. Wait till you're in a healthy weight range and trying to run a deficit like that.0
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Don't get me wrong i hope you succeed.
The point is...
You said i dont let others dictate my life style anymore and calling people out here about they said you will burn out.
That is already letting people dictate you. you try to prove something.
The other thing is people tried to help you...you had several posts with all kinds of questions ( which dont really give the impression you did this before but i wont argue over it). And from a lot of people here with a lot of experience you got the advice dont under eat.... And other support which you dont see that way apparently.
Yes i can live on nothing for days and also on a couple of hundred for days maybe even weeks...but what good does it do?
The less you weigh the less your deficit will be....so the less you will lose weight. That is a normal process. The more successful you will be by losing the weight, the smaller your calorie need will be. So to maintain that huge loss you want you have to cut back from that 1000-1500 calorie intake again.
it is not that people here dont want you to succeed you know, they try to help and calling them out at this point ( only 8 weeks) is in my eyes a bit childish like nanananana see i can do it!
Now you said i have done this before ...still you are here...again!
If you done it right you wouldn't be here....again you would have known that eating to much would lead to gaining weight.
Like you said yourself you fell off the wagon.
Why?
Why did you fall off. Ask your self those questions. And dont get me wrong happy for you you lost a lot. But for sure come back when you lost 100 pounds or more and maintain it.....month after month and years, than say to the people you are calling out now...see i did it.
For now...just do what you want/have to do. Lose your weight or not. But when you do do it in a healthy way...and a bit of humbleness suits everybody!
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I was told that I couldn't lose weight without eating junk food. I was told I'd fail over and over again. Sometimes in those very words, lol, "You will fail." Also that I was doing it wrong, that I was destined to binge ("It's unavoidable"), that I'd develop (or already had) an eating disorder, etc. I knew they were wrong. I never even second-guessed myself - I just knew they were wrong.
I continued to lose. I'm down 96 pounds and still going. My diet is healthier now than ever before.
You have to have faith in yourself. If you try to diet the way others suggest, you'll never be able to do it! There are just too many ideas out there and they all insist that they have the One, True Way To Lose Weight. You have to pick the thing that works for you and go with it. If it ends up not working out, go with something else. But trust yourself. You know you best.
As long as your doctor approves and it works for you, the heck with other people's opinions.0 -
Losing 3-5 a week still is playing Russian roulette with your health.
You are pushing yourself at the gym while probably cannibalising your body with a low food intake.
I was one that posted to you a couple of times.
No more.
Wishing you common sense and health.
Cheers, h.0 -
I don't think it's so much about whether you could, as much as whether you should. The trick isn't whether it takes you six months or sixteen months to reach your goal weight, the trick is whether or not you're still at your goal weight in six years. How quickly you get there is almost irrelevant in the long term. What you do after you get there matters most.
And it's about what type of weight you're losing. It's very easy to lose pounds very quickly when you're losing muscle, because muscle weighs a lot for the amount of calories your body can gain by breaking it down. And at the rate you're going, it's not possible to not lose muscle - fat cells actually only give up their fat pretty slowly, which is why the rule of thumb of losing no more than 1% body weight per week exists. It's not because you can't lose more, but because when you do lose more, you lose a much worse ratio of lean to fat mass.0 -
rankinsect wrote: »I don't think it's so much about whether you could, as much as whether you should. The trick isn't whether it takes you six months or sixteen months to reach your goal weight, the trick is whether or not you're still at your goal weight in six years. How quickly you get there is almost irrelevant in the long term. What you do after you get there matters most.
And it's about what type of weight you're losing. It's very easy to lose pounds very quickly when you're losing muscle, because muscle weighs a lot for the amount of calories your body can gain by breaking it down. And at the rate you're going, it's not possible to not lose muscle - fat cells actually only give up their fat pretty slowly, which is why the rule of thumb of losing no more than 1% body weight per week exists. It's not because you can't lose more, but because when you do lose more, you lose a much worse ratio of lean to fat mass.
+1 to the bold. It's a bit rich for you to neenner-neener at people who simply expressed (well founded) concerns for your health given your methods.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Don't get me wrong i hope you succeed.
The point is...
You said i dont let others dictate my life style anymore and calling people out here about they said you will burn out.
That is already letting people dictate you. you try to prove something.
The other thing is people tried to help you...you had several posts with all kinds of questions ( which dont really give the impression you did this before but i wont argue over it). And from a lot of people here with a lot of experience you got the advice dont under eat.... And other support which you dont see that way apparently.
Yes i can live on nothing for days and also on a couple of hundred for days maybe even weeks...but what good does it do?
The less you weigh the less your deficit will be....so the less you will lose weight. That is a normal process. The more successful you will be by losing the weight, the smaller your calorie need will be. So to maintain that huge loss you want you have to cut back from that 1000-1500 calorie intake again.
it is not that people here dont want you to succeed you know, they try to help and calling them out at this point ( only 8 weeks) is in my eyes a bit childish like nanananana see i can do it!
Now you said i have done this before ...still you are here...again!
If you done it right you wouldn't be here....again you would have known that eating to much would lead to gaining weight.
Like you said yourself you fell off the wagon.
Why?
Why did you fall off. Ask your self those questions. And dont get me wrong happy for you you lost a lot. But for sure come back when you lost 100 pounds or more and maintain it.....month after month and years, than say to the people you are calling out now...see i did it.
For now...just do what you want/have to do. Lose your weight or not. But when you do do it in a healthy way...and a bit of humbleness suits everybody!
I didn't even read what you said because I said I hope I don't let outside influences dictate the lifestyle I live - that was a reference to how I used school as an excuse to binge eat and drink (energy drinks and alcohol.) I was essentially busting my *kitten* in college (graduated with honours and awards) but I sacrificed the healthy lifestyle I worked so hard to get. Once I let myself go as far as I did I basically said what's the point. Then I got motivated to lose weight when my doctor raised concerns for my health. It wasn't a reference to other people, sorry for the misunderstanding.0 -
That you make a new thread and dont read responses, well oke. Not going to waist my time explaining things then.
Good luck OP, i hope you find what you are looking for and succeed.
Everybody their own way, and i am happy my way worked too. 0 -
If you guys are interested I'll share my measurements tomorrow (before and after) on average I'm losing 3lbs a week (a little over) there was a lot at the start but it's starting to be normal like mfp plan says it should be0
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BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »That you make a new thread and dont read responses, well oke. Not going to waist my time explaining things then.
Good luck OP, i hope you find what you are looking for and succeed.
Everybody their own way, and i am happy my way worked too.
I eventually will get to it but I didn't get to reading it because it was super long and I assumed your premise was on a misinterpretation of what I meant in an earlier post. No worries I'll get to reading it eventually.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Don't get me wrong i hope you succeed.
The point is...
You said i dont let others dictate my life style anymore and calling people out here about they said you will burn out.
That is already letting people dictate you. you try to prove something.
The other thing is people tried to help you...you had several posts with all kinds of questions ( which dont really give the impression you did this before but i wont argue over it). And from a lot of people here with a lot of experience you got the advice dont under eat.... And other support which you dont see that way apparently.
Yes i can live on nothing for days and also on a couple of hundred for days maybe even weeks...but what good does it do?
The less you weigh the less your deficit will be....so the less you will lose weight. That is a normal process. The more successful you will be by losing the weight, the smaller your calorie need will be. So to maintain that huge loss you want you have to cut back from that 1000-1500 calorie intake again.
it is not that people here dont want you to succeed you know, they try to help and calling them out at this point ( only 8 weeks) is in my eyes a bit childish like nanananana see i can do it!
Now you said i have done this before ...still you are here...again!
If you done it right you wouldn't be here....again you would have known that eating to much would lead to gaining weight.
Like you said yourself you fell off the wagon.
Why?
Why did you fall off. Ask your self those questions. And dont get me wrong happy for you you lost a lot. But for sure come back when you lost 100 pounds or more and maintain it.....month after month and years, than say to the people you are calling out now...see i did it.
For now...just do what you want/have to do. Lose your weight or not. But when you do do it in a healthy way...and a bit of humbleness suits everybody!
I do a lot of reading and gather lots of opinions. I know why I gained weight it's because I stopped caring about what I ate because eating became more of a "okay I have 10 minutes scarf down as much of whatever you can get your hands on and get back to work."
I was busting my *kitten* off in college and I stopped caring about my health. Eventually I gained so much weight that it seemed impossible to get back to the lifestyle I worked so hard to get and maintain.
Despite losing weight in the kind of person who believes there's always room for improvement. I am constantly trying to make myself better at whatever I do. So I strive for having a better understanding on how my body works. I first questioned my calories because I had been eating for nearly a month without counting calories and when I finally did it seemed really low and so I asked whether or not it was okay. My body felt okay and so I assumed it was. People suggested I eat more (and I actually took the advice.)
In my opinion there's no right or wrong way to lose weight. I went from fitting in 38s to 34s in a month. My old jeans have been sitting in the closet for ages. Im no longer considered overweight but a normal weight now (I am quite physically fit to begin with so despite being considered morbidly obese with my measurements I barely came up overweight.) The point of he thread is to motivate people to not let anyone tell them hey can't do anything. If you set your mind to it, you can do it.0 -
So for those interested I did my four week measurements today. I lost no inches in my arms, 4 inches in my hips, 4.25 inches in my waist and 1 inch in my thigh. I don't know if that's a better indication of what type of weight in losing (also measurements were done by a professional) but that's some definite progress if I do say so myself.0
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I was told that I couldn't lose weight without eating junk food. I was told I'd fail over and over again. Sometimes in those very words, lol, "You will fail." Also that I was doing it wrong, that I was destined to binge ("It's unavoidable"), that I'd develop (or already had) an eating disorder, etc. I knew they were wrong. I never even second-guessed myself - I just knew they were wrong.
I continued to lose. I'm down 96 pounds and still going. My diet is healthier now than ever before.
You have to have faith in yourself. If you try to diet the way others suggest, you'll never be able to do it! There are just too many ideas out there and they all insist that they have the One, True Way To Lose Weight. You have to pick the thing that works for you and go with it. If it ends up not working out, go with something else. But trust yourself. You know you best.
As long as your doctor approves and it works for you, the heck with other people's opinions.
Really?! Someone told you if you eat whole nutritious foods it will be impossible for you to lose weight even if you are eating them in a calorie deficit?!
OP, congrats on your progress, and I hope you can continue without burnout. If you do start feeling rundown, consider adding some calories. And even if you don't feel rundown, as you lose more and more weight, you just won't be able to sustain a huge deficit and get adequate nutrition. Know that it will come at some point and be prepared mentally to make that adjustment as it comes.0 -
joshuakcaron wrote: »So for those interested I did my four week measurements today. I lost no inches in my arms, 4 inches in my hips, 4.25 inches in my waist and 1 inch in my thigh. I don't know if that's a better indication of what type of weight in losing (also measurements were done by a professional) but that's some definite progress if I do say so myself.
Clothes must be much looser. A good feeling that is. Effort is paying off for you. Congrats!
Yup, I'm starting to fit in my old clothes again
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I was told that I couldn't lose weight without eating junk food. I was told I'd fail over and over again. Sometimes in those very words, lol, "You will fail." Also that I was doing it wrong, that I was destined to binge ("It's unavoidable"), that I'd develop (or already had) an eating disorder, etc. I knew they were wrong. I never even second-guessed myself - I just knew they were wrong.
I continued to lose. I'm down 96 pounds and still going. My diet is healthier now than ever before.
You have to have faith in yourself. If you try to diet the way others suggest, you'll never be able to do it! There are just too many ideas out there and they all insist that they have the One, True Way To Lose Weight. You have to pick the thing that works for you and go with it. If it ends up not working out, go with something else. But trust yourself. You know you best.
As long as your doctor approves and it works for you, the heck with other people's opinions.
Really?! Someone told you if you eat whole nutritious foods it will be impossible for you to lose weight even if you are eating them in a calorie deficit?!
OP, congrats on your progress, and I hope you can continue without burnout. If you do start feeling rundown, consider adding some calories. And even if you don't feel rundown, as you lose more and more weight, you just won't be able to sustain a huge deficit and get adequate nutrition. Know that it will come at some point and be prepared mentally to make that adjustment as it comes.
Yeah, I've noticed I had to make slight adjustments here and there already. From first week to now I'm eating more and exercising less but losing frequently and steady. So happy 0 -
Wow this is on the 'motivation and support' thread but it sure seems like everyone is slamming OP for his choices. From what I read it sounds like his doctor told him to and if he wants to crow about it after two months then he sure should be able to with support from us to keep going. two months may not seem like long when you have done it far longer but it is the beginning and given the fact that most people quit within the first month I say you go a head and crow about it OP! congrats on your weight loss and remember to eat healthy, stick to it, and have fun
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I agree holly_roman.
I understand "tough love" but easy tigers!
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holly_roman wrote: »Wow this is on the 'motivation and support' thread but it sure seems like everyone is slamming OP for his choices. From what I read it sounds like his doctor told him to and if he wants to crow about it after two months then he sure should be able to with support from us to keep going. two months may not seem like long when you have done it far longer but it is the beginning and given the fact that most people quit within the first month I say you go a head and crow about it OP! congrats on your weight loss and remember to eat healthy, stick to it, and have funBig5BigChange wrote: »I agree holly_roman.
I understand "tough love" but easy tigers!
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The OP has had several of his threads closed and/or deleted because he has been on a very low calorie diet - less than a month ago he said "I'm eating less than 1000 calories a day."
Bolded by me - he admits to having inadequate nutrition for the amount he eats and exercises. That's why the people who are familiar with his posts are not congratulating him and thereby encouraging him to keep up this unsafe lifestyle. The double whammy is he is insulting those who have given him advice in all his other posts. Not cool. Not cool at all.joshuakcaron wrote: ». . . I'm still consistently losing 2-5 lbs a week while not feeling any stress from lack of nutrition or over exercising.
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LaceyBirds wrote: »holly_roman wrote: »Wow this is on the 'motivation and support' thread but it sure seems like everyone is slamming OP for his choices. From what I read it sounds like his doctor told him to and if he wants to crow about it after two months then he sure should be able to with support from us to keep going. two months may not seem like long when you have done it far longer but it is the beginning and given the fact that most people quit within the first month I say you go a head and crow about it OP! congrats on your weight loss and remember to eat healthy, stick to it, and have funBig5BigChange wrote: »I agree holly_roman.
I understand "tough love" but easy tigers!
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The OP has had several of his threads closed and/or deleted because he has been on a very low calorie diet - less than a month ago he said "I'm eating less than 1000 calories a day."
Bolded by me - he admits to having inadequate nutrition for the amount he eats and exercises. That's why the people who are familiar with his posts are not congratulating him and thereby encouraging him to keep up this unsafe lifestyle. The double whammy is he is insulting those who have given him advice in all his other posts. Not cool. Not cool at all.joshuakcaron wrote: ». . . I'm still consistently losing 2-5 lbs a week while not feeling any stress from lack of nutrition or over exercising.
I've improved my eating and reduced the amount I've been exercising since then. Also moderation has formally apologized for closing the posts to me via email as after further investigation they realized the reason the thread was closed was a mistake.
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LaceyBirds wrote: »holly_roman wrote: »Wow this is on the 'motivation and support' thread but it sure seems like everyone is slamming OP for his choices. From what I read it sounds like his doctor told him to and if he wants to crow about it after two months then he sure should be able to with support from us to keep going. two months may not seem like long when you have done it far longer but it is the beginning and given the fact that most people quit within the first month I say you go a head and crow about it OP! congrats on your weight loss and remember to eat healthy, stick to it, and have funBig5BigChange wrote: »I agree holly_roman.
I understand "tough love" but easy tigers!
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The OP has had several of his threads closed and/or deleted because he has been on a very low calorie diet - less than a month ago he said "I'm eating less than 1000 calories a day."
Bolded by me - he admits to having inadequate nutrition for the amount he eats and exercises. That's why the people who are familiar with his posts are not congratulating him and thereby encouraging him to keep up this unsafe lifestyle. The double whammy is he is insulting those who have given him advice in all his other posts. Not cool. Not cool at all.joshuakcaron wrote: ». . . I'm still consistently losing 2-5 lbs a week while not feeling any stress from lack of nutrition or over exercising.
Also lack of nutrition and over exercising wasn't meant to be taken in the context in which you're quoting me as. What I meant by what I said was I'm not lacking nutrition and I'm not over exercising. Sorry for the confusion 0 -
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I was told that I couldn't lose weight without eating junk food. I was told I'd fail over and over again. Sometimes in those very words, lol, "You will fail." Also that I was doing it wrong, that I was destined to binge ("It's unavoidable"), that I'd develop (or already had) an eating disorder, etc. I knew they were wrong. I never even second-guessed myself - I just knew they were wrong.
I continued to lose. I'm down 96 pounds and still going. My diet is healthier now than ever before.
You have to have faith in yourself. If you try to diet the way others suggest, you'll never be able to do it! There are just too many ideas out there and they all insist that they have the One, True Way To Lose Weight. You have to pick the thing that works for you and go with it. If it ends up not working out, go with something else. But trust yourself. You know you best.
As long as your doctor approves and it works for you, the heck with other people's opinions.
Just so we're clear here. Someone said to you - your can't lose weight without eating junk food"
I just want to be sure we are clear about that statement before I go on.....but who would've ever said that one must eat junk food to lose weight? Of coarse, what you consider junk is likely different then what I consider junk, but still ...that makes no sense at all.
I've been here for years, heard a lot of really insane stuff. But never once heard anyone say, "you couldn't lose weight without eating junk food" that just doesn't seem right to me.0 -
Congratulations & good luck. Nothing much to say, really.0
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I know it's more entertaining for people to come off as though they struggled uphill in the snow against great opposition, lost weight even though the meanies on MFP didn't believe in them, or got told that weight loss is impossible without junk food. Makes for a good story, I suppose.
The less-exciting reality is that usually our success is thanks, at least in part, to being open to learning from others and being willing to consider whether "success" on the scale is coming at too great of a cost to health and fitness.
Multiple people here spent a lot of time answering your many questions and offering suggestions and support. But I guess it's easy to ignore that part.
Best of luck to you.
Lot's of people did provide me with great tips and I did listen to them. There were many more who said I'd burn and fail without providing me with any kind of feedback as to what I should do. There were a lot of people who responded what I can only assume to be in response to the subject header. My goals were always to lose healthy amount of weight. After calculating my measurements I lost a significant amount of fat (most of my weight loss was fat) despite people telling me I was losing too much. I followed what I was told to do by professionals and what mfp recommended and I lost more than what I should have. Most of the excess I can only assume must have been water but still. It feels great to lose the weight and at the same time realize that it isn't getting harder this is a manageable lifestyle.
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I was told that I couldn't lose weight without eating junk food. I was told I'd fail over and over again. Sometimes in those very words, lol, "You will fail." Also that I was doing it wrong, that I was destined to binge ("It's unavoidable"), that I'd develop (or already had) an eating disorder, etc. I knew they were wrong. I never even second-guessed myself - I just knew they were wrong.
I continued to lose. I'm down 96 pounds and still going. My diet is healthier now than ever before.
You have to have faith in yourself. If you try to diet the way others suggest, you'll never be able to do it! There are just too many ideas out there and they all insist that they have the One, True Way To Lose Weight. You have to pick the thing that works for you and go with it. If it ends up not working out, go with something else. But trust yourself. You know you best.
As long as your doctor approves and it works for you, the heck with other people's opinions.
I am in 100 percent agreement that each of us must find what works best for us.
On the other hand, I would like more clarification on the sentence I have put in bold, because I've never heard this before. I have seen over and over where people say you need to cut out certain foods to lose weight, but never that you can't lose weight unless you eat junk food.
Also, in your perception, what is junk food? 0
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