To Those Who Said I Couldn't

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  • fiddletime
    fiddletime Posts: 1,868 Member
    Joshua I don't know of your previous posts. Congratulations on your weight loss! A few years ago, before I discovered MFP I wanted to lose 20#. And I didn't want to plateau. I was probably eating 800-900 calories a day since I'm now on 1200/day and am eating a lot more. I lost it in a few months without plateauing and got to target weight.

    I did pick up a ton of colds that winter and felt like my immune system wasn't up to its usual job. I gained the weight back, lost it again with MFP, gained it back, and am losing it yet again. This time my focus is long term maintenance. So, good job on your weight loss and focus on the Maintenance boards if you haven't already. Losing it can be easier to some compared to others. Keeping it off over years and years, that's the super hard part!
  • Wizeman22
    Wizeman22 Posts: 552 Member
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  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    fiddletime wrote: »
    Joshua I don't know of your previous posts. Congratulations on your weight loss! A few years ago, before I discovered MFP I wanted to lose 20#. And I didn't want to plateau. I was probably eating 800-900 calories a day since I'm now on 1200/day and am eating a lot more. I lost it in a few months without plateauing and got to target weight.

    I did pick up a ton of colds that winter and felt like my immune system wasn't up to its usual job. I gained the weight back, lost it again with MFP, gained it back, and am losing it yet again. This time my focus is long term maintenance. So, good job on your weight loss and focus on the Maintenance boards if you haven't already. Losing it can be easier to some compared to others. Keeping it off over years and years, that's the super hard part!

    Absolutely! I let myself go when I was in college. Basically said screw the healthy lifestyle I made and did a lot of binge eating. I've learned now that a busy life doesn't mean you can't have a healthy lifestyle it takes a lot of planning. By planning ahead I think I made it so much easier this time around. I never actually got to my goal weight, I maintained a weight I was okay with for a long time though and was hoping to reach my goal once I finished school. Alas, the opposite happened :anguished:
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.

    What's a good ratio to lose? Fat to lbm?

    If I keep tracking how much fat I'm losing I can make adjustments so that I'm not losing as much lbm.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.

    What's a good ratio to lose? Fat to lbm?

    If I keep tracking how much fat I'm losing I can make adjustments so that I'm not losing as much lbm.

    How do you plan on tracking fat loss versus lean mass loss? You can't use calipers on yourself. Tape measure and hand held/scale body fat devices are all inaccurate. Do you plan on getting dunked frequently?
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.

    What's a good ratio to lose? Fat to lbm?

    If I keep tracking how much fat I'm losing I can make adjustments so that I'm not losing as much lbm.

    How do you plan on tracking fat loss versus lean mass loss? You can't use calipers on yourself. Tape measure and hand held/scale body fat devices are all inaccurate. Do you plan on getting dunked frequently?

    I have someone doing measurements at the gym and I know they aren't accurate I was already told they are usually off by some degree. I don't think I can afford to get dunked frequently but would measurements not at least give me a better idea and I could make adjustments then?
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.

    What's a good ratio to lose? Fat to lbm?

    If I keep tracking how much fat I'm losing I can make adjustments so that I'm not losing as much lbm.

    How do you plan on tracking fat loss versus lean mass loss? You can't use calipers on yourself. Tape measure and hand held/scale body fat devices are all inaccurate. Do you plan on getting dunked frequently?

    I have someone doing measurements at the gym and I know they aren't accurate I was already told they are usually off by some degree. I don't think I can afford to get dunked frequently but would measurements not at least give me a better idea and I could make adjustments then?

    Not necessarily. If they were using calipers combined with a tape measure it could give you a decent idea of how much fat versus lean mass you are losing, but only if they have lots of experience using calipers. You also need a trainer who interprets the information correctly. I've seen many claim that someone lost 12 pounds of fat and gained 8 pounds of muscle in a month based off calipers alone.
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you did amend your eating and exercise, though not enough to protect yourself from unneccessary wastage of LBM

    Well that's something I suppose

    You seem a little petulant here, but that's fine ...maturity comes to us in stages

    Good luck to you ...hope to see you in a couple of years on the way to getting the body you want as you rebuild your health and musculature

    I'm wondering how much of the 22lbs I lost was water weight and how much was lbm?

    I know I lost roughly 14lbs of fat give or take 1-3% (so I was told.)

    My arms stayed the same size so I'm thinking that's a good sign? And I'm seeing progress when I'm lifting as well.

    Is it impossible to not lose lbm while dieting? And I wouldn't mind losing muscle in my legs they're too big and a reason why that is was I was a goalie for competitive hockey before I graduated high school.
    Yeah, pretty much impossible. But, you can minimize it by eating adequate protein and working on a progressive resistance program. And as you've been told before, overly aggressive deficits can lead to a higher chance of muscle loss as well, which is why we keep mentioning adjusting your deficit level as you get closer to goal.

    What's a good ratio to lose? Fat to lbm?

    If I keep tracking how much fat I'm losing I can make adjustments so that I'm not losing as much lbm.

    How do you plan on tracking fat loss versus lean mass loss? You can't use calipers on yourself. Tape measure and hand held/scale body fat devices are all inaccurate. Do you plan on getting dunked frequently?

    I have someone doing measurements at the gym and I know they aren't accurate I was already told they are usually off by some degree. I don't think I can afford to get dunked frequently but would measurements not at least give me a better idea and I could make adjustments then?

    Not necessarily. If they were using calipers combined with a tape measure it could give you a decent idea of how much fat versus lean mass you are losing, but only if they have lots of experience using calipers. You also need a trainer who interprets the information correctly. I've seen many claim that someone lost 12 pounds of fat and gained 8 pounds of muscle in a month based off calipers alone.

    Sounds expensive haha, I'll look into finding someone who can track that stuff.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Also, if you are interested in trends, having the same person read your bf could show you an overall trend if you keep in mind the absolute number could be rather off. Of course, that assumes the person is consistent... I mostly aim to lift heavy and hit my protein goal and just know that I'm doing what I can to maintain my muscle. I'm vaguely curious what a dexa scan would put me at, but I'm ok with going off trends from online calculators and me measuring myself.
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    Also, if you are interested in trends, having the same person read your bf could show you an overall trend if you keep in mind the absolute number could be rather off. Of course, that assumes the person is consistent... I mostly aim to lift heavy and hit my protein goal and just know that I'm doing what I can to maintain my muscle. I'm vaguely curious what a dexa scan would put me at, but I'm ok with going off trends from online calculators and me measuring myself.
    So far it's been the same person measuring me and I will be measured again in a month, I guess I can use he trend to make adjustments then.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Couldn't? Or shouldn't?
  • Blackdawn_70631
    Blackdawn_70631 Posts: 283 Member
    edited October 2015
    My one tip is to lose slow. Even if it does take a year.
    Everyone says it's not healthy for the body, which it isn't (not healthy). But lots of people choose to ignore that.
    So let me push that to the side and say this. Losing 5 pounds weekly can cause SAGGY SKIN. And nasty stretch marks all over your body. And it takes a long time to get rid of them.
    So go slow so your skin can slowly stretch back into your smaller form. In the meantime, use moisturizing lotion with vitamin E and the front that says provides elasticity. Like Jergens skin firming. Then use a moisturizing body wash with vitamin e. Keep doing this until you reach your goal weight.
  • joshuakcaron
    joshuakcaron Posts: 343 Member
    edited October 2015
    My one tip is to lose slow. Even if it does take a year.
    Everyone says it's not healthy for the body, which it isn't (not healthy). But lots of people choose to ignore that.
    So let me push that to the side and say this. Losing 5 pounds weekly can cause SAGGY SKIN. And nasty stretch marks all over your body. And it takes a long time to get rid of them.
    So go slow so your skin can slowly stretch back into your smaller form. In the meantime, use moisturizing lotion with vitamin E and the front that says provides elasticity. Like Jergens skin firming. Then use a moisturizing body wash with vitamin e. Keep doing this until you reach your goal weight.

    My abs are starting to show again and the skin ain't sagging. Also I got stretch marks before I gained weight from lifting, they don't bug me that much. It'll take a long time for my lower abdominals to show and to lose the love handles but I don't think I have enough fat to lose to make my skin sag. Thanks for the concerns though :)
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