What do you think about juicing?
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It can be beneficial for those with digestive disorders, ibs and ibd. It removes the fiber which can be difficult to digest for those people and provides some rest for their intestines while still providing nutrients. For a normal healthy individual it's unnecessary for weight loss. If you like fresh juice it can be a great addition to your diet but be careful as it can be difficult to know the calorie content and cause you to go over your goals.0
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Tried to find peer reviewed research on absorption of micronutrients from "juicing." Pretty much everything I found you have to pay to read.
This summary of the issue seems legit: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/nobody-can-prove-cold-pressed-juice-better/0 -
pollypocket1021 wrote: »Just putting this out there for all the people who don't understand juicing.
Why would someone juice?
I don't know about you, but I would never want to eat in one sitting, 3 cups of kale, 3 cups of spinach, 3 carrots, and an apple, or 1/4 lemon, 1 whole beet, 2-3 carrots, 1/4 cabbage head, and 2 celery stalks. These are all raw too. When you cook down fruit and vegetables you lose valuable nutrients and break down enzymes. Juicing is in fact an easy way to bring raw nutrients into your body quickly and in a high dose. This is especially good for people who don't eat enough vegetables. Juicing is not a weight loss gimmick but rather a tool to help those who do not have enough vegetables/fruit in their diet. One of the best things you can do for your body is juice wheatgrass. And before you say "you'd rather just eat it", you have never attempted to eat wheatgrass lol. Feel free to google the benefits of this superfood.
This all said-no, no, no for weight loss and replacing actual food with juicing. As an addition to your complete diet, yes definitely.
But you don't need to eat all of those things in one sitting. And a huge benefit of eating veggies is the fiber, which you are removing.
Is there any evidence that your body can absorb the vitamins and minerals in juice? Most multivitamins are nearly completely excreted.
Your thoughts are not inherently bad, but sometimes things that seem like common sense don't bear out in real life once we factor in biology.
I think your missing my point. A juicer is helpful for those who would otherwise not eat enough vegetables (mainly dark leafy chlorophyll heavy)/fruits on a day to day or weekly basis. I'm simply stating that it is an excellent way to incorporate more veggies etc into your already complete diet. My kids for example-super picky, this is a very easy way to ensure they are getting what they need in raw form, because let's face it. If they don't like it (or even the way it looks for that matter), they will not eat it. For myself and my husband, we both prefer cooked veggies over raw, so here is another example in why a juicer (masticating) is of benefit to the both of us. I can bet that many grown adults do not eat enough veggies in their diet, but give them a great tasting juice, and hey, their getting vital raw nutrients in their body. As far as your claim about getting "too much" of a good thing, their have been many studies on super doses of vitamins/minerals and curing or stopping growth in many diseases and disorders-I'll leave that up to you to research. The reason you don't hear about these studies etc. is because the pharmaceutical companies do not make money on vitamins etc, and "curing" disease is not in the best interest of the medical and pharmaceutical community, as they are in the business to make money. Take it for what it's worth, but I think I'll keep juicing, in addition to my already complete diet.
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I did it for awhile, but my main goal was to get in nutrients from vegetables that I hate. Picky eater here. But... I couldn't deal with the clean up. So now in the mornings, I make myself a green smoothie. That way I get good leafy vegetables in my body without having to taste them.
3c spinach
1c frozen fruit
1 cup water or liquid of your choice
And it's a low calorie (depending on your liquid), nutritious breakfast and I still get the fiber from the spinach and fruit. It fills me up for about 2-3 hours and then I have a mid morning snack.
You can add a healthy fat, like avocado or coconut oil, or protein powder to a smoothie to make it a more complete "meal."0 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »I think that it's a good way to concentrate nutrients, but you end up sacrificing valuable fiber and it makes a damn mess. Plus, it's really expensive. You would be surprised at how little juice you get out of a bag of oranges.
Also, I find it much more personally satisfying to eat an orange over the course of 10 minutes than it is to drink a cup of orange juice over the course of 2 minutes.
Plus you spent more than 10 minutes juicing and cleaning up, and if you actually juiced you lost 100% of the fiber (pulp).
My ex was a fanatical juicer who insisted I down absolutely foul concoctions "for my health". But while I was with him I got sicker and sicker! Do I blame the juicing? Absolutely not. It (and his vitamin obsession, and his Chinese traditional medicine obsession) was a distraction. "If you only eat this/take these supplements / etc you will have all of your health problems disappear!" What poppycock!
I also managed to gain 50 lbs while under his control, all while hiking and "eating clean". His rationale for that was "well it won't work if you don't believe in it". Magic and rainbows and fairy dust and unicorn poop.
As proud as I am of my current weight and fitness level, best 200 lbs I ever lost was him
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I'd rather eat all the veggies.0
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Interesting what some dentists are saying.......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2912353/Is-juicing-making-fat-Not-mention-rotting-teeth-starving-body-nutrients-new-fad-not-healthy-all.html0 -
I don't think you should ever replace all of your meals with juice.
I think that juices in general should be had in moderation or in proper portion sizes.
All calories in juice (and otherwise) should be accounted for.
Other than that, go for it. I enjoy drinking juice and my personal favorite is a blend of apple, carrot, and ginger.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I don't think you should ever replace all of your meals with juice.
I think that juices in general should be had in moderation or in proper portion sizes.
All calories in juice (and otherwise) should be accounted for.
Other than that, go for it. I enjoy drinking juice and my personal favorite is a blend of apple, carrot, and ginger.
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pollypocket1021 wrote: »Just putting this out there for all the people who don't understand juicing.
Why would someone juice?
I don't know about you, but I would never want to eat in one sitting, 3 cups of kale, 3 cups of spinach, 3 carrots, and an apple, or 1/4 lemon, 1 whole beet, 2-3 carrots, 1/4 cabbage head, and 2 celery stalks. These are all raw too. When you cook down fruit and vegetables you lose valuable nutrients and break down enzymes. Juicing is in fact an easy way to bring raw nutrients into your body quickly and in a high dose. This is especially good for people who don't eat enough vegetables. Juicing is not a weight loss gimmick but rather a tool to help those who do not have enough vegetables/fruit in their diet. One of the best things you can do for your body is juice wheatgrass. And before you say "you'd rather just eat it", you have never attempted to eat wheatgrass lol. Feel free to google the benefits of this superfood.
This all said-no, no, no for weight loss and replacing actual food with juicing. As an addition to your complete diet, yes definitely.
But you don't need to eat all of those things in one sitting. And a huge benefit of eating veggies is the fiber, which you are removing.
Is there any evidence that your body can absorb the vitamins and minerals in juice? Most multivitamins are nearly completely excreted.
Your thoughts are not inherently bad, but sometimes things that seem like common sense don't bear out in real life once we factor in biology.
I think your missing my point. A juicer is helpful for those who would otherwise not eat enough vegetables (mainly dark leafy chlorophyll heavy)/fruits on a day to day or weekly basis. I'm simply stating that it is an excellent way to incorporate more veggies etc into your already complete diet. My kids for example-super picky, this is a very easy way to ensure they are getting what they need in raw form, because let's face it. If they don't like it (or even the way it looks for that matter), they will not eat it. For myself and my husband, we both prefer cooked veggies over raw, so here is another example in why a juicer (masticating) is of benefit to the both of us. I can bet that many grown adults do not eat enough veggies in their diet, but give them a great tasting juice, and hey, their getting vital raw nutrients in their body. As far as your claim about getting "too much" of a good thing, their have been many studies on super doses of vitamins/minerals and curing or stopping growth in many diseases and disorders-I'll leave that up to you to research. The reason you don't hear about these studies etc. is because the pharmaceutical companies do not make money on vitamins etc, and "curing" disease is not in the best interest of the medical and pharmaceutical community, as they are in the business to make money. Take it for what it's worth, but I think I'll keep juicing, in addition to my already complete diet.
I never said anything about "too much of a good thing." I think you imagined that.
Rather, I suggested that by altering the form of the food, you make it harder for you body to absorb micronutrients, just like with multivitamins, which are largely excreted. Not absorbed.0 -
pollypocket1021 wrote: »Rather, I suggested that by altering the form of the food, you make it harder for you body to absorb micronutrients, just like with multivitamins, which are largely excreted. Not absorbed.
Multivitamins are chemical concoctions that may or may not be the same form as the natural thing. That's a different issue to whether you have subcontracted the chewing and mastication out to an electrical device. If you don't absorbe the nutrients in veg or fruit juice then I can't see how you would absorb them from the parent vegetable or fruit.
Juicers do not remove soluble fibre (for example the pectin in an apple) nor do they remove 100% of the insoluble fibre.0 -
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I think that it is idiotic...unless getting half of your days calories and all of your day's carbs in one go is the goal.
Taking out the good fiber makes no sense.0 -
that's precisely to be picky, but I don't disagree.
The chemicals used to formulate a supplement may not be the same as those present in natural foods.0 -
pollypocket1021 wrote: »Rather, I suggested that by altering the form of the food, you make it harder for you body to absorb micronutrients, just like with multivitamins, which are largely excreted. Not absorbed.
If you don't absorbe the nutrients in veg or fruit juice then I can't see how you would absorb them from the parent vegetable or fruit.
Well, in order to absorb b vitamins (specifically b12), it must bind with gastric intrinsic factor in the stomach. The gastric motility of liquids is faster than for solids, which could theoretically cause less GIF to bind to b vitamins and lead to deficiency.
Lots of things have been linked to vitamin b deficiency (ie tea drinking), and I don't know if juicing has been studied with regard to this particular vitamin, but the gastric environment created by the kinds of foods you eat together or the parts of foods you eat absolutely plays a role in absorption.0 -
I am sharing with you my favorite juicing recipe
1 cucumber
1 beet
4-5 kale stalks
1 orange
1 lemon/lime
1-2 carrots
Tastes great and is full of healthy vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.
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Just putting this out there for all the people who don't understand juicing.
Why would someone juice?
I don't know about you, but I would never want to eat in one sitting, 3 cups of kale, 3 cups of spinach, 3 carrots, and an apple, or 1/4 lemon, 1 whole beet, 2-3 carrots, 1/4 cabbage head, and 2 celery stalks. These are all raw too. When you cook down fruit and vegetables you lose valuable nutrients and break down enzymes. Juicing is in fact an easy way to bring raw nutrients into your body quickly and in a high dose. This is especially good for people who don't eat enough vegetables. Juicing is not a weight loss gimmick but rather a tool to help those who do not have enough vegetables/fruit in their diet. One of the best things you can do for your body is juice wheatgrass. And before you say "you'd rather just eat it", you have never attempted to eat wheatgrass lol. Feel free to google the benefits of this superfood.
This all said-no, no, no for weight loss and replacing actual food with juicing. As an addition to your complete diet, yes definitely.
This is a bit black&white thinking. There is a middle ground between not eating any vegetables, and forcing down large amounts. The amounts you are describing here is not enough vegetables for one day, it's completely unneccessary amounts of vegetables for one day. More like enough for a week. More than enough is not better, it is just excessive and has no additional benefits. Maybe not unhealthy, if you get in your meat and grains and dairy too, but unnecessary.0 -
Maybe for breakfast or lunch but there should be real food too0
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