Strength vs ISO

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  • Samm471
    Samm471 Posts: 432 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Samm471 wrote: »
    _Bropollo_ wrote: »
    Samm471 wrote: »
    _Bropollo_ wrote: »
    Strength = number of muscle fibers x control signal being pumped to them.

    So you can get pretty big and have ppl somewhat smaller than you outlifting you if they have a better trained CNS. But at the same time, your CNS can only pump out so much juice and make so many connections; at some point, you just have to add more muscle fiber to get stronger, aka hypertrophy.

    So do some strength work, and some hypertrophy work. I rotate days; It keeps it interesting and busts up plateaus before they happen.

    Ahh okay I understand now I will give that a go make it a 2016 plan lol I just want to see how much strength I can gain doing 5x5 just a little longer I'm going to be going up to maintenace I'm
    Not sure if eating at maintenance instead of a deficit would give me more strength? That's not why I'm going into maintenace btw it's simply because I don't want to drop anymore weight

    erm....not entirely sure how to answer. If you aren't in a calorie surplus, the vast majority of the strength increases you experience will be from improved CNS connection since your body doesn't really have any extra energy left over to synthesize new muscle fiber. Eating more calories won't make you stronger, per se, progressive overload and a strong drive to hit an extra rep on every set will.

    Okay well I'm gonna sit at maintenance and see if I can drop some body fat I think I only need to drop 2/3% to be totally happy and then maybe bulk this time next year. I would do it sooner but as mentioned someone had advised to wait at least a year before bulking as I'm not advanced enough as a lifter to be bulking .. Well I make sure to add weight when I can which seems to be okay just now but if I start to struggle what would I do? Thanks for answering btw

    Who told you this? I mean, I don't think you should bulk right away when just starting to lift but I don't think you'd have to wait a year either. I was only lifting maybe 4 months before I started my bulk (mind you, not really by choice I was too small to recomp)

    A personal trainer I follow her on Facebook I asked for a little advice and that's what she told me .. She actually said I could also stay in a deficit ... Nah I won't be doing that I feel like I've lost too much weight already and don't have enough muscle so I will end up looking like a rake ... The complete opposite of the goals I want to achieve tbh
  • piperdown44
    piperdown44 Posts: 958 Member
    Samm471 wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Samm471 wrote: »
    _Bropollo_ wrote: »
    Samm471 wrote: »
    _Bropollo_ wrote: »
    Strength = number of muscle fibers x control signal being pumped to them.

    So you can get pretty big and have ppl somewhat smaller than you outlifting you if they have a better trained CNS. But at the same time, your CNS can only pump out so much juice and make so many connections; at some point, you just have to add more muscle fiber to get stronger, aka hypertrophy.

    So do some strength work, and some hypertrophy work. I rotate days; It keeps it interesting and busts up plateaus before they happen.

    Ahh okay I understand now I will give that a go make it a 2016 plan lol I just want to see how much strength I can gain doing 5x5 just a little longer I'm going to be going up to maintenace I'm
    Not sure if eating at maintenance instead of a deficit would give me more strength? That's not why I'm going into maintenace btw it's simply because I don't want to drop anymore weight

    erm....not entirely sure how to answer. If you aren't in a calorie surplus, the vast majority of the strength increases you experience will be from improved CNS connection since your body doesn't really have any extra energy left over to synthesize new muscle fiber. Eating more calories won't make you stronger, per se, progressive overload and a strong drive to hit an extra rep on every set will.

    Okay well I'm gonna sit at maintenance and see if I can drop some body fat I think I only need to drop 2/3% to be totally happy and then maybe bulk this time next year. I would do it sooner but as mentioned someone had advised to wait at least a year before bulking as I'm not advanced enough as a lifter to be bulking .. Well I make sure to add weight when I can which seems to be okay just now but if I start to struggle what would I do? Thanks for answering btw

    Who told you this? I mean, I don't think you should bulk right away when just starting to lift but I don't think you'd have to wait a year either. I was only lifting maybe 4 months before I started my bulk (mind you, not really by choice I was too small to recomp)

    A personal trainer I follow her on Facebook I asked for a little advice and that's what she told me .. She actually said I could also stay in a deficit ... Nah I won't be doing that I feel like I've lost too much weight already and don't have enough muscle so I will end up looking like a rake ... The complete opposite of the goals I want to achieve tbh

    Already told you what I thought of that advice..... :)

  • Samm471
    Samm471 Posts: 432 Member
    Yeah I know Eric I was just mentioning it to others as I found it strange aswell
  • Kimo159
    Kimo159 Posts: 508 Member
    Yeah, the whole stay in a deficit advice...glad you aren't listening to that. I'm lifting at maintenance calories for the first time (I was always undereating/at a deficit) and I'm freaking LOVING the strength/muscle gains. If I ever do a bulk I'll probably be on cloud nine.
  • Samm471
    Samm471 Posts: 432 Member
    Kimo159 wrote: »
    Yeah, the whole stay in a deficit advice...glad you aren't listening to that. I'm lifting at maintenance calories for the first time (I was always undereating/at a deficit) and I'm freaking LOVING the strength/muscle gains. If I ever do a bulk I'll probably be on cloud nine.

    I think I'm just tired being in a deficit tbh I mean I could maybe do it for a little longer but I know I will move to maintenace eventually and see how that goes :) that's what I'm looking forward to most strength/muscle gains :D
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