What is "woo"

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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    A little history lesson here.

    The term "woo" (if I recall correctly ) was originally coined by James Randi as woo-woo.
    "James Randi is the founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF). Randi began his career as a magician, but when he retired at age 60, he switched to investigating paranormal, occult, and supernatural claims, which he collectively calls "woo-woo." Although often referred to as a "debunker," Randi rejects that title owing to its perceived bias, instead describing himself as an "investigator". He has written about the paranormal, skepticism, and the history of magic. He was a frequent guest on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and is occasionally featured on the television program Penn & Teller: *kitten*!."

    Randi just recently retired from the organization which bares his name "The James Randi Educational Foundation." A big component of the JREF was to test paranormal claims by offering a million dollars to prove if you indeed possess any supernatural powers. Many tried, all failed.

    His busting of the fraud Yuri Gellar and exposing cold reading for what is classic skepticism in action.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo

    Randi is personal hero of mine, right up there with Carl Sagan.
    I watched parts of this just to see Johnny. He certainly gave the guy every opportunity to prove he was for real and remained polite while showcasing the fraud. It was pretty funny, too. Well done, Mr. Carson! :)

    Is that Robert Loggia next to Mr. Psychic Liar guy? So hard to tell because it's fuzzy.

    Johnny was the best. I miss him. Thanks for sharing that. :)
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Before I changed the channel (I was watching the previous show and didn't change fast enough before his whow started), Dr. Oz said he has a new way to cook rice so that it has only HALF THE CALORIES!

    that's a solid example of woo.

    Wasn't there a recent study that discussed the effects of coconut oil when mixed with rice?

    Yes - adding coconut oil right before cooking the rice, then cooling the rice for 12 hours after. In studies, they've reduced the calories by 10-12% in the current type of rice studied. They estimate it's possible that they could reduce the calories in one kind of rice by 50%, but not saying yet what kind of rice that is.... and everyone will have to cook their rice and then cool it for 12 hours.... and the study doesn't say what happens when you reheat it to eat it.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    "Woo", "derp" and "broscience" are terms that some people use to say that they believe others to be wrong. They base this on their idea of "science", sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

    I have an 8 year old daughter. When I read "derp" I automatically think of MLP.

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    Derpy hooves is my favorite pony.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    "Woo", "derp" and "broscience" are terms that some people use to say that they believe others to be wrong. They base this on their idea of "science", sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

    I have an 8 year old daughter. When I read "derp" I automatically think of MLP.

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    LOL yes! My 8 and 10 year olds, and MFP, are the only places I've ever heard "derp" used.
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    "Woo", "derp" and "broscience" are terms that some people use to say that they believe others to be wrong. They base this on their idea of "science", sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

    I have an 8 year old daughter. When I read "derp" I automatically think of MLP.

    130232443562.gif?1305073704

    LOL yes! My 8 and 10 year olds, and MFP, are the only places I've ever heard "derp" used.

    As a former World of Warcraft player, and Ventrilo user, it would not be uncommon to hear someone used the term "derp" when killing yourself by standing in fire, lol

    Also referred to as "facepalming", and "head desking".

    And one more completely off topic but for any Warcraft players, known as a 50 DKP minus!
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    "Woo", "derp" and "broscience" are terms that some people use to say that they believe others to be wrong. They base this on their idea of "science", sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

    I have an 8 year old daughter. When I read "derp" I automatically think of MLP.

    130232443562.gif?1305073704

    LOL yes! My 8 and 10 year olds, and MFP, are the only places I've ever heard "derp" used.

    As a former World of Warcraft player, and Ventrilo user, it would not be uncommon to hear someone used the term "derp" when killing yourself by standing in fire, lol

    Also referred to as "facepalming", and "head desking".

    And one more completely off topic but for any Warcraft players, known as a 50 DKP minus!

    Why former?? Can't wait for Legion!!
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    "Woo", "derp" and "broscience" are terms that some people use to say that they believe others to be wrong. They base this on their idea of "science", sometimes correctly, sometimes not.

    I have an 8 year old daughter. When I read "derp" I automatically think of MLP.

    130232443562.gif?1305073704

    LOL yes! My 8 and 10 year olds, and MFP, are the only places I've ever heard "derp" used.

    As a former World of Warcraft player, and Ventrilo user, it would not be uncommon to hear someone used the term "derp" when killing yourself by standing in fire, lol

    Also referred to as "facepalming", and "head desking".

    And one more completely off topic but for any Warcraft players, known as a 50 DKP minus!

    Moar dots!
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Before I changed the channel (I was watching the previous show and didn't change fast enough before his whow started), Dr. Oz said he has a new way to cook rice so that it has only HALF THE CALORIES!

    that's a solid example of woo.

    Wasn't there a recent study that discussed the effects of coconut oil when mixed with rice?

    Yes. Cooking it a certain way with coconut oil can result in more of the rice cooking into resistant starch that acts like fiber. Since, like most fibers, gut bacteria have to ferment it into MCT's before a human can use the energy, fewer calories are humanly digestible.
    http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2015/03/low-calorie-healthy-rice-resistant-starch
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    I'll actually say that saying everything Dr. Oz sells on his show is getting close to woo one's self.

    Claims aren't wrong or right because who makes them, they are right or wrong on the actual evidence for them. That said, as heuristic, I don't waste time relying on anything Dr. Oz presents - I'll make a slight exception if I ever find myself in need of performing thoracic surgery, in which case I'll listen to him just long enough to get someone stitched shut and then kindly ask him to not start saying one word about raspberry ketones.
  • shrcpr
    shrcpr Posts: 885 Member
    Alternately, it's often seen in the company of "hoo".

    I'll get my coat.

    LOL! Not quite sure why I found this so funny.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Alternately, it's often seen in the company of "hoo".

    I'll get my coat.

    Oh, Yoo!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    edited November 2015
    yeah and the big deal is your 100 gram of cooked rice (normally around 135ish calories) is now 50% less so about 62ish calories....but dont forget to calculate the tablespoon of coconut oil you added which is 117 calories.

    A win win situation? ....right

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  • cafeaulait7
    cafeaulait7 Posts: 2,459 Member
    Hold up, though. How does it affect blood sugars (like diabetes, I mean); does anyone know? I miss my rice, lol!

    I thought y'all were just kidding, because it's another coconut oil tip :grin:
  • lesliewynn14
    lesliewynn14 Posts: 130 Member
    If I want to eat rice with only have 1/2 of the caloric intake then I eat 1/2 of the recommended portion. Not rocket science.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Hold up, though. How does it affect blood sugars (like diabetes, I mean); does anyone know? I miss my rice, lol!

    I thought y'all were just kidding, because it's another coconut oil tip :grin:

    I am not saying that this is something anyone should do. It's just something that was trialed - and they didn't even reveal which kind of rice they used. To only save 10% of your calories by doing this is hardly worth all of the extra effort, and waiting 12 hours for the rice to cool, as well as not knowing if reheating changes anything in the caloric value.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited November 2015
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    Close, but not quite
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Hold up, though. How does it affect blood sugars (like diabetes, I mean); does anyone know? I miss my rice, lol!

    I thought y'all were just kidding, because it's another coconut oil tip :grin:

    I am not saying that this is something anyone should do. It's just something that was trialed - and they didn't even reveal which kind of rice they used. To only save 10% of your calories by doing this is hardly worth all of the extra effort, and waiting 12 hours for the rice to cool, as well as not knowing if reheating changes anything in the caloric value.

    If you eat it uncooked, it has even less calories. Fact.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    I think of 'woo' as encompassing a lot of non-science based beliefs... Most of this is indeed pure bunk but some 'woo' of the traditional cultural ilk has been eventually scientifically verified. So I keep an open, critical & intuitive mind.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    According to Gallup's Clifton Strength Finder. WOO is an acronym for winning others over.
    http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/721/woo.aspx
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    It's some made up word that people use to try to shame others into their way of thinking. It's basically calling someone stupid but in an attempt to appear less offensive. Don't let people shame your personal decisions with words like woo. It used to be derp but that's become too much of a pejorative. The same will happen with woo. Next people will use the next "clever" in an attempt to disguise thier mean spiritedness.

    Maybe something like sipsy. It sounds harmless enough until people wise up to what others are doing.
  • GBrady43068
    GBrady43068 Posts: 1,256 Member
    edited November 2015
    Alternately, it's often seen in the company of "hoo".

    I'll get my coat.

    @PeachyCarol: *rimshot*

  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    brower47 wrote: »
    It's some made up word that people use to try to shame others into their way of thinking. It's basically calling someone stupid but in an attempt to appear less offensive. Don't let people shame your personal decisions with words like woo. It used to be derp but that's become too much of a pejorative. The same will happen with woo. Next people will use the next "clever" in an attempt to disguise thier mean spiritedness.

    Maybe something like sipsy. It sounds harmless enough until people wise up to what others are doing.

    shoo?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    brower47 wrote: »
    It's some made up word that people use to try to shame others into their way of thinking. It's basically calling someone stupid but in an attempt to appear less offensive. Don't let people shame your personal decisions with words like woo. It used to be derp but that's become too much of a pejorative. The same will happen with woo. Next people will use the next "clever" in an attempt to disguise thier mean spiritedness.

    Maybe something like sipsy. It sounds harmless enough until people wise up to what others are doing.

    It is actually a real word. It isn't supposed to be used to make people feel stupid; if someone does use it that way then they are being rude and shouldn't do so.
    Typically it is used to mean that a particular plan that someone talking about, like the fad cleanse or detox of the moment, is not something that is going to work or should be used. It's not meant to shame but to show that something is another part of the long list of fads that don't work and should be avoided.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    edited November 2015
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    brower47 wrote: »
    It's some made up word that people use to try to shame others into their way of thinking. It's basically calling someone stupid but in an attempt to appear less offensive. Don't let people shame your personal decisions with words like woo. It used to be derp but that's become too much of a pejorative. The same will happen with woo. Next people will use the next "clever" in an attempt to disguise thier mean spiritedness.

    Maybe something like sipsy. It sounds harmless enough until people wise up to what others are doing.

    It is actually a real word. It isn't supposed to be used to make people feel stupid; if someone does use it that way then they are being rude and shouldn't do so.
    Typically it is used to mean that a particular plan that someone talking about, like the fad cleanse or detox of the moment, is not something that is going to work or should be used. It's not meant to shame but to show that something is another part of the long list of fads that don't work and should be avoided.

    If it was meant to inform, they'd use informative words like dangerous, harmful or misleading. They don't use those words. They use this made up word with some ambiguous meaning. If people are constantly having to ask what it means then its intent isn't to inform but to confuse. That's not what we should be doing as a helpful community. There's enough confusing diet and fitness information out there already for people to sift through without introducing an ambiguous word meant to ninja insult those that are simply less informed
  • kk_inprogress
    kk_inprogress Posts: 3,077 Member
    What I say when I'm running down down a hill with my arms in the air! :smiley:
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    kkenseth wrote: »
    What I say when I'm running down down a hill with my arms in the air! :smiley:

    Like you just don't care?
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    brower47 wrote: »
    If it was meant to inform, they'd use informative words like dangerous, harmful or misleading. They don't use those words.

    Personally if I'm going to describe something as woo, using one of those alternatives would lend it far more credence than it deserves.

    Where something is unsubstantiated bollocks nonsense then sometimes ridiculing the information is an entirely appropriate response.

  • PeterJX
    PeterJX Posts: 9 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    A little history lesson here.

    The term "woo" (if I recall correctly ) was originally coined by James Randi as woo-woo.
    "James Randi is the founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF). Randi began his career as a magician, but when he retired at age 60, he switched to investigating paranormal, occult, and supernatural claims, which he collectively calls "woo-woo." Although often referred to as a "debunker," Randi rejects that title owing to its perceived bias, instead describing himself as an "investigator". He has written about the paranormal, skepticism, and the history of magic. He was a frequent guest on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and is occasionally featured on the television program Penn & Teller: *kitten*!."

    Randi just recently retired from the organization which bares his name "The James Randi Educational Foundation." A big component of the JREF was to test paranormal claims by offering a million dollars to prove if you indeed possess any supernatural powers. Many tried, all failed.

    His busting of the fraud Yuri Gellar and exposing cold reading for what is classic skepticism in action.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo

    Randi is personal hero of mine, right up there with Carl Sagan.
    Is that Robert Loggia next to Mr. Psychic Liar guy? So hard to tell because it's fuzzy.
    That's actually Ricardo Montalban. Great Carson clip!

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