Young Living Essential Oils / NingXia Red
amykluver
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Anyone use or ever use any of these products? I'm curious as to your results. I tried a sample of NingXia Red (an all natural "health" drink) over the weekend and had great results, but wondering how long-lived those results will be. Especially for the cost.
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Hi Amy, I've been using NingXia Red for years. I love the energy it gives me and it helps my immune system as well. Haven't had a cold or flu for years. I'm also a natural health practitioner and do recommend it to people as well. It works out to about $1.07 per serving, so the price is very economical (when compared with an unhealthy Starbucks or Red Bull drink!). Hope that helps!0
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I am very skeptical of anything from YL. That guy has a rap sheet a mile long and even the presentation made my hair stand on end. It was full of vague promises and unverified anecdotes. The woman even tried to tell me essential oils injected in to a tumor would cure cancer. The whole thing gave me the creeps!:noway:0
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Can you please point me to some verification of the claims that "Thieves Oil" was so named for it's miraculous defense against the plague? The saleswoman could not even tell me in which country or century this occurred. I'm surprised that history would have buried such an amazing story. Thanks.0
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I love it when two posters out of four joined just to post their MLM BS in this thread.
Especially when it's Thieves Oil...er....Snake Oil.0 -
Yeah, Ecuadorian clinics are so well known for their rigorous and well designed studies (sarcasm font)....
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And nothing, except not being near rat fleas or being a homozygote for a specific gene could do anything to prevent you from getting the plague.0 -
cmriverside: True. But long-timer amykluver started this thread and Thieves hadn't entered the discussion before long-timer Mouse_Potato brought it up. Seems like you have such an anti-MLM or YL bias that you disregard the info presented. I didn't see any recruiting going on except yours--to join the anti-MLM brigade to censor info.0
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cmriverside: True. But long-timer amykluver started this thread and Thieves hadn't entered the discussion before long-timer Mouse_Potato brought it up. Seems like you have such an anti-MLM or YL bias that you disregard the info presented. I didn't see any recruiting going on except yours--to join the anti-MLM brigade to censor info.
I disregard any info that walks like a duck.
You can keep trying to convince people, but linking to a site that sells the stuff is against forum rules, so you may want to rethink that approach. I see people here frequently who are trying to push products. You are no different - regardless of your "Research" - which no one is really falling for here, so take it back to your site.
Yes, I'm firmly anti-MLM.0 -
evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
On the other hand, it is well known that, while the US healthcare system is #1 in acute/emergency/traumatic care, it sucks at chronic issues. In other words, if I have a bullet wound or broken limb, get me to a US doctor pronto. But if I have cancer, arthritis, lupus, or whatever, the best answers usually lie outside the US system which is the realm of pharmaceutical companies that publish the textbooks for medical schools and have a revolving door with the FDA, DHS, etc.
And due to bureaucratic red tape, it's not uncommon for the true cutting-edge stuff to be happening outside the US, i.e., stem cell therapy--one of the world's foremost experts on stem cell therapy is in Ecuador.
I would think this would be common knowledge on a fitness site (not the realm of mainstream medical institutions), especially under the "Food and Nutrition" topic (also not the realm of mainstream medical institutions). Your rants in favor of double-blind studies and such would fit better on a forum dedicated to something like patented drugs that are precisely-manufactured with a handful isolated, synthetic (dead) ingredients rather than on a fitness forum where solutions can vary as widely as individuals and the compounds in an orange can number in the hundreds and vary with the season...or time of day.0 -
Must resist...............0
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cmriverside: True. But long-timer amykluver started this thread and Thieves hadn't entered the discussion before long-timer Mouse_Potato brought it up. Seems like you have such an anti-MLM or YL bias that you disregard the info presented. I didn't see any recruiting going on except yours--to join the anti-MLM brigade to censor info.
I disregard any info that walks like a duck.
You can keep trying to convince people, but linking to a site that sells the stuff is against forum rules, so you may want to rethink that approach. I see people here frequently who are trying to push products. You are no different - regardless of your "Research" - which no one is really falling for here, so take it back to your site.
Yes, I'm firmly anti-MLM.
Might be best to let long-timer Mouse_Potato decide whether I spammed her or truly/thoughtfully answered the questions she asked with the links I provided. So far, you seem to be the one spamming this particular conversation.0 -
cmriverside: True. But long-timer amykluver started this thread and Thieves hadn't entered the discussion before long-timer Mouse_Potato brought it up. Seems like you have such an anti-MLM or YL bias that you disregard the info presented. I didn't see any recruiting going on except yours--to join the anti-MLM brigade to censor info.
I disregard any info that walks like a duck.
You can keep trying to convince people, but linking to a site that sells the stuff is against forum rules, so you may want to rethink that approach. I see people here frequently who are trying to push products. You are no different - regardless of your "Research" - which no one is really falling for here, so take it back to your site.
Yes, I'm firmly anti-MLM.
Might be best to let long-timer Mouse_Potato decide whether I spammed her or truly/thoughtfully answered the questions she asked with the links I provided. So far, you seem to be the one spamming this particular conversation.
Do you even know what the word Spam means?0 -
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evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
On the other hand, it is well known that, while the US healthcare system is #1 in acute/emergency/traumatic care, it sucks at chronic issues. In other words, if I have a bullet wound or broken limb, get me to a US doctor pronto. But if I have cancer, arthritis, lupus, or whatever, the best answers usually lie outside the US system which is the realm of pharmaceutical companies that publish the textbooks for medical schools and have a revolving door with the FDA, DHS, etc.
And due to bureaucratic red tape, it's not uncommon for the true cutting-edge stuff to be happening outside the US, i.e., stem cell therapy--one of the world's foremost experts on stem cell therapy is in Ecuador.
I would think this would be common knowledge on a fitness site (not the realm of mainstream medical institutions), especially under the "Food and Nutrition" topic (also not the realm of mainstream medical institutions). Your rants in favor of double-blind studies and such would fit better on a forum dedicated to something like patented drugs that are precisely-manufactured with a handful isolated, synthetic (dead) ingredients rather than on a fitness forum where solutions can vary as widely as individuals and the compounds in an orange can number in the hundreds and vary with the season...or time of day.
lol. in for the new way of promoting oils by calling medical products full of "synthetic dead" ingredients.
The oils are alive! yikes!
BTW - There is no legal stem cell research in Ecuador since the 2012 passing of the Law of Transplant of Organs, Cells and Tissues - stem cell treatments, including autologous are illegal now. And your whole oil scheme has absolutely nothing to do with stem cell research.0 -
While I do love Essential Oils, I don't use either of these products. After much research regarding the differences in oil grades I actually didn't find either of these on any of the top 10 lists of CPTG grade oils.
*disclaimer - I do sell from the company I purchase . . . I've had a whole 1 friend purchase oils from me.0 -
evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
I'm still wondering where this was brought up, no where in the OP or in evileen99 post on anywhere else in here did I see anyone ask a question that even remotely looked like "can you please tell me more about EO injections into a tumor?" What I saw was the OP state they had a great experience with the EO they tried and wanted to know what to expect. Let's stay on point, shall we?0 -
evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
I'm still wondering where this was brought up, no where in the OP or in evileen99 post on anywhere else in here did I see anyone ask a question that even remotely looked like "can you please tell me more about EO injections into a tumor?" What I saw was the OP state they had a great experience with the EO they tried and wanted to know what to expect. Let's stay on point, shall we?
The OP asked for a response to a product. YL is the "seller" of the product. The sales person from YL told evileen99 that the oil injected into a tumor could cure cancer. (see post #2 in this thread).
You wanna buy snake oil from that salesperson? Yeah. It was exactly on point. Well, as on point as any thread like this will ever be.0 -
This thread has potential. Oh wait, it has met and surpassed its potential.
Then all the pseudo science, witch doctoring started and now,
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Anyone use or ever use any of these products? I'm curious as to your results. I tried a sample of NingXia Red (an all natural "health" drink) over the weekend and had great results, but wondering how long-lived those results will be. Especially for the cost.
I'm curious, Amykluver, would you please describe the results you experienced? Thanks in advance.0 -
This is an explanation of the so-called "rap sheet" on Gary Young, founder of Young Living...
http://www.essentialoilseeker.com/?p=664
The personalities and knowledge of individual "independent" distributors vary widely. If one leaves a bad taste in your mouth, find another who is more compatible with you.
There is a clinic in Ecuador that provides essential oil IVs. The story of when frankincense was first injected into a human tumor (1985 - with very positive results) can be found in this booklet...
http://www.abundanthealth4u.com/Brochure_Cancer_Versus_Essential_Oils_p/4027a.htm
and in this book...
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0943685273
This website provides some very detailed info on NingXia Red although it is somewhat out-dated because the juice has been substantially upgraded in the past year--sweetened with stevia rather than agave, more essential oils added, etc...
http://wolfberryjuice.com/
Note that there are none of the "junk juices" of apple, pear and white grape that are in so many other so-called "healthy and nutritional" juice products. These "junk juices" contribute to the spiking of blood sugar levels.
I've used the juice daily for at least a half dozen years and love it. It has played a substantial role in keeping me fit and reducing unhealthy cravings.
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And speaking of stem cell research in EcuadorOn January 8 of this year, 60 Minutes aired a report on another stem cell fraud scheme, this time centered on physician Dan Ecklund, who lives in Alabama but is listed as the lab director and president of Ecuador-based Stem Tech Labs. Stem Tech's website claims it can treat more than 70 diseases using stem cells at a price beginning at $US 2,500. The site also encourages donations to Stem Tech, which it says will be used for its research and production operations.
In this 60 Minutes report, Ecklund, whose medical license was revoked in 2005, told the family of a child suffering from cerebral palsy that he could treat their son with a series of four stem cell injections at a cost of $US 20,000 after examining him via teleconference. What he didn't know was that the family was part of the 60 Minutes investigation. Ecklund agreed to meet the family at a Florida hotel and administer the treatments there, according to the 60 Minutes report. (Ecklund disputes this.) When Ecklund showed up, the family left and a 60 Minutes reporter walked in. Ecklund left the interview after only a few questions.
The show also purchased stem cells over the Internet from Stem Tech, ordering from the company's website. Joanne Kurtzberg, M.D., a renowned expert in umbilical cord blood transplantation, chief scientific officer of stem cell research at Duke University and a STEM CELLS editorial board member, tested the cells and found they were disintegrating and unsafe to use.
I hope your products from Ecuador are nothing like these stem cell products - I'm sure you are medically licensed, FDA approved to treat whatever ailment you are promoting such as tumor treament. No fraud there. No sir.
I you want to promote science and innovation by association of country source, I'm sure you don't mind fraud by association.0 -
Evgeni, uh, oops.
"But, she said she was 18"
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Wow! Essential snake oils.
Slimiest product I've seen on here yet.0 -
Anyone use or ever use any of these products? I'm curious as to your results. I tried a sample of NingXia Red (an all natural "health" drink) over the weekend and had great results, but wondering how long-lived those results will be. Especially for the cost.
I'm still curious what "results' OP got from a sample drink.....0 -
I hope your products from Ecuador are nothing like these stem cell products - I'm sure you are medically licensed, FDA approved to treat whatever ailment you are promoting such as tumor treament. No fraud there. No sir.
I you want to promote science and innovation by association of country source, I'm sure you don't mind fraud by association.
I never mentioned products from Ecuador.
And I made no attempt to support a cancer-cure claim.
I just provided additional data for long-timer Mouse_Potato who included this line in the third post on this thread...
"The woman even tried to tell me essential oils injected in to a tumor would cure cancer. The whole thing gave me the creeps!"
Yes, that particular woman would have given me the creeps too.
Yes, an essential oil has been injected into a tumor.
Yes, a clinic in Ecuador provides IV injections.
How un/successful are they? A flame war is not the place to discover answers to that.0 -
evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
On the other hand, it is well known that, while the US healthcare system is #1 in acute/emergency/traumatic care, it sucks at chronic issues. In other words, if I have a bullet wound or broken limb, get me to a US doctor pronto. But if I have cancer, arthritis, lupus, or whatever, the best answers usually lie outside the US system which is the realm of pharmaceutical companies that publish the textbooks for medical schools and have a revolving door with the FDA, DHS, etc.
And due to bureaucratic red tape, it's not uncommon for the true cutting-edge stuff to be happening outside the US, i.e., stem cell therapy--one of the world's foremost experts on stem cell therapy is in Ecuador.
I would think this would be common knowledge on a fitness site (not the realm of mainstream medical institutions), especially under the "Food and Nutrition" topic (also not the realm of mainstream medical institutions). Your rants in favor of double-blind studies and such would fit better on a forum dedicated to something like patented drugs that are precisely-manufactured with a handful isolated, synthetic (dead) ingredients rather than on a fitness forum where solutions can vary as widely as individuals and the compounds in an orange can number in the hundreds and vary with the season...or time of day.
lol. in for the new way of promoting oils by calling medical products full of "synthetic dead" ingredients.
The oils are alive! yikes!
Reminder to everyone else:
EvgeniZyntx used the phrase "oils are alive."
I simply contrasted pharmaceuticals to an orange.
Yes, I feel justified in thinking that one has dead/inert ingredients while the other is packed with living enzymes.0 -
While I do love Essential Oils, I don't use either of these products. After much research regarding the differences in oil grades I actually didn't find either of these on any of the top 10 lists of CPTG grade oils.
I suggest you do more research on CPTG which is just a marketing term created out of the blue by a specific MLM. If the company misleads about this, what else will they mislead about? I prefer buying oils from a company that has its own farms and distilleries all over the world rather than from one that was setup strictly as a marketing machine for third-party oils.0 -
Can you please point me to some verification of the claims that "Thieves Oil" was so named for it's miraculous defense against the plague? The saleswoman could not even tell me in which country or century this occurred. I'm surprised that history would have buried such an amazing story. Thanks.
Mouse_Potato: I pointed you to the best source I'm aware of. Did you see it before it was removed? It seems counterproductive, but I could try to copy&paste the info. Unfortunately, scans from books written in the 1800s wouldn't show.
Just to be clear...I don't agree with the claims as stated nor would the creators of the trademarked product. The stated claims distort the real history and the actual research.0 -
evileen99: Not disputing that. But that wasn't the question which had more to do with whether or not frankincense had been injected into a tumor.
On the other hand, it is well known that, while the US healthcare system is #1 in acute/emergency/traumatic care, it sucks at chronic issues. In other words, if I have a bullet wound or broken limb, get me to a US doctor pronto. But if I have cancer, arthritis, lupus, or whatever, the best answers usually lie outside the US system which is the realm of pharmaceutical companies that publish the textbooks for medical schools and have a revolving door with the FDA, DHS, etc.
And due to bureaucratic red tape, it's not uncommon for the true cutting-edge stuff to be happening outside the US, i.e., stem cell therapy--one of the world's foremost experts on stem cell therapy is in Ecuador.
I would think this would be common knowledge on a fitness site (not the realm of mainstream medical institutions), especially under the "Food and Nutrition" topic (also not the realm of mainstream medical institutions). Your rants in favor of double-blind studies and such would fit better on a forum dedicated to something like patented drugs that are precisely-manufactured with a handful isolated, synthetic (dead) ingredients rather than on a fitness forum where solutions can vary as widely as individuals and the compounds in an orange can number in the hundreds and vary with the season...or time of day.
lol. in for the new way of promoting oils by calling medical products full of "synthetic dead" ingredients.
The oils are alive! yikes!
Reminder to everyone else:
EvgeniZyntx used the phrase "oils are alive."
I simply contrasted pharmaceuticals to an orange.
Yes, I feel justified in thinking that one has dead/inert ingredients while the other is packed with living enzymes.
Enzymes are not living. Nor are pharmaceutical ingredients inert.
You brought Ecuadorian stem cell research to the thread - mostly doubtful, illegal and certainly not a cure to cancer.
The whole "living enzyme" is a marketing dog whistle.0 -
Can you please point me to some verification of the claims that "Thieves Oil" was so named for it's miraculous defense against the plague? The saleswoman could not even tell me in which country or century this occurred. I'm surprised that history would have buried such an amazing story. Thanks.
Mouse_Potato: I pointed you to the best source I'm aware of. Did you see it before it was removed? It seems counterproductive, but I could try to copy&paste the info. Unfortunately, scans from books written in the 1800s wouldn't show.
Just to be clear...I don't agree with the claims as stated nor would the creators of the trademarked product. The stated claims distort the real history and the actual research.
I don't know why you keep talking to "Mouse_Potato". She isn't interested in your spiel. She stated that she wouldn't buy the stuff, and left.
Your links were removed because it is against this site's rules to post them.
No one is interested in your claims.
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