Is this correct?

Hi guys does this look good in terms of macros for my first bulk.

Ill be clean bulking for 4 months:

5ft 10
169 lbs
Desk job
No cardio

http://imgur.com/zh84uCZ
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  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Yeah, I'd do that protein as a minimum but it's right at .8 which is fine.

    Are you sure of your TDEE?
  • Ben2055
    Ben2055 Posts: 96 Member
    Well, MFP tells me to cut at 500 deficit a day 1 lb a week so 1750kcal. Maintain 2250. So 2500 to gain 0.5 a week.

    Inpresume thats my TDEE? how can i be sure?

    Also should i maybe raise the protein abit? Feels a little low haha?
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    MFP provides NEAT, rather than TDEE. You can calculate your TDEE here:

    Scooby's Workshop
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    Well, MFP tells me to cut at 500 deficit a day 1 lb a week so 1750kcal. Maintain 2250. So 2500 to gain 0.5 a week.

    Inpresume thats my TDEE? how can i be sure?

    Also should i maybe raise the protein abit? Feels a little low haha?

    Okay, I don't do cardio either so I just presume MFP gives me my TDEE. You could also just with other calculators and split the difference.

    You could raise the protein, especially if you like it. I kind of over do it...I'm like 128 lbs and I get 160g some days lol.
  • Ben2055
    Ben2055 Posts: 96 Member
    Just used scooby
    http://imgur.com/a62WLgJ

    My maconutriebt plan ok then?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Looks good! Have fun :)
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    Well, MFP tells me to cut at 500 deficit a day 1 lb a week so 1750kcal. Maintain 2250. So 2500 to gain 0.5 a week.

    Inpresume thats my TDEE? how can i be sure?

    Also should i maybe raise the protein abit? Feels a little low haha?
    macros look fine..

    what are your stats though, as 2500 seems low fora bulk ..

    what do you mean by "clean bulk"?
  • Ben2055 wrote: »
    Hi guys does this look good in terms of macros for my first bulk.

    Ill be clean bulking for 4 months:

    5ft 10
    169 lbs
    Desk job
    No cardio

    http://imgur.com/zh84uCZ

    Why no cardio ? Why depriving yourself from the good endorphins ? Maybe if you do intervals or 1-2 days 5ks it won't be bad for your weight gain ?:(
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    Hi guys does this look good in terms of macros for my first bulk.

    Ill be clean bulking for 4 months:

    5ft 10
    169 lbs
    Desk job
    No cardio

    http://imgur.com/zh84uCZ

    Why no cardio ? Why depriving yourself from the good endorphins ? Maybe if you do intervals or 1-2 days 5ks it won't be bad for your weight gain ?:(

    because he is trying to gain weight and cardio should be minimal when bulking because then you have to eat more to get into a surplus.
  • If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    Hi guys does this look good in terms of macros for my first bulk.

    Ill be clean bulking for 4 months:

    5ft 10
    169 lbs
    Desk job
    No cardio

    http://imgur.com/zh84uCZ

    I am 5-10 36 male and wen I bulked at 175 I started at 2750 calories for .5 gain and by the end that was up to 3100 calories..

    this time around I am bulking on 3300 calories and that is about a little under one pound per week gain for me...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    Umm what?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    Umm what?

    looks like someone from general weight loss forum wandered in here….
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    Umm what?

    looks like someone from general weight loss forum wandered in here….

    OH right
  • ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    I think you made a wrong turn somewhere..this is the GAINING forum, we are talking about gaining weight here and calories burns are not the priority.

  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.

    He has it set at .8 grams per pound of body weight, which is fine. Like you, I am a protein eating machine so I usually get one pound per pound of body weight. I was actually getting more than that for a while and I actually had a hard time getting to 50% carbs, imagine that! I actually had to cut down on protein and increase carbs...
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.

    He has it set at .8 grams per pound of body weight, which is fine. Like you, I am a protein eating machine so I usually get one pound per pound of body weight. I was actually getting more than that for a while and I actually had a hard time getting to 50% carbs, imagine that! I actually had to cut down on protein and increase carbs...

    I'm wondering if I'll have to do that. I mean I'm getting 160g of protein some days and don't think I understand the importance of carbs just yet. Anyway, don't want to derail. We can talk about that later.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.

    He has it set at .8 grams per pound of body weight, which is fine. Like you, I am a protein eating machine so I usually get one pound per pound of body weight. I was actually getting more than that for a while and I actually had a hard time getting to 50% carbs, imagine that! I actually had to cut down on protein and increase carbs...

    I'm wondering if I'll have to do that. I mean I'm getting 160g of protein some days and don't think I understand the importance of carbs just yet. Anyway, don't want to derail. We can talk about that later.

    its the insulin spike they create which signals your muscles to start growing….plus they are more calorie dense so helps you get into surplus...
  • ihab90
    ihab90 Posts: 50 Member
    I may get critized for this but I don't bother with macros
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,399 Member
    ihab90 wrote: »
    I may get critized for this but I don't bother with macros

    Well that just opens a whole can of worms. But actually I somewhat agree with you. I've seen people bulk on very minimal protein and do just fine. And for that matter I've gained without even paying attention to what I ate at all, but more or less did a quick recomp.

    And as for cardio, it just gives you more room to eat IMO. If you do 500 calories of cardio, as long as you eat the 500 calories back to support it, there is no harm done really. Cardio helps recovery when lifting as well, and it shocks me that so many people do only one or the other.
  • Ben2055
    Ben2055 Posts: 96 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.

    He has it set at .8 grams per pound of body weight, which is fine. Like you, I am a protein eating machine so I usually get one pound per pound of body weight. I was actually getting more than that for a while and I actually had a hard time getting to 50% carbs, imagine that! I actually had to cut down on protein and increase carbs...

    I'm wondering if I'll have to do that. I mean I'm getting 160g of protein some days and don't think I understand the importance of carbs just yet. Anyway, don't want to derail. We can talk about that later.

    Should i increase that protein grammage to 1g per body so 169? Also do you take shakes on a bulk cause that would limit your intake of whole foods like chicken etc?
  • Aani15
    Aani15 Posts: 172 Member
    I have a similar goal of gaining 0.5 kg/week and MFP app gave me 2700 calories/day.
    @Ben2055 Just curious? How did you decide 4 months bulking period? Not 3 or 5? I mean I just want to know, may it help me as well. @arditarose @ndj1979 guys your feedback would be appreciated as well. Thank you!
  • Ben2055
    Ben2055 Posts: 96 Member
    Was originally gonna do but as its my first bulk it will take time to get used too so someone reccomended me four haha
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    arditarose wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    If your body gets used to the exercise it won't be so efficient anymore .

    what?

    sorry that is not true…

    Yes it is. You organism adapts to the stress and you burn less cal from the exercise you used to burn more. Like if I run every day 15 km at one point my body will adapt to the stress and I will burn less cal. That is why many ppl have problem with losing weight.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP and his bulking macros. Some of us don't do cardio.

    @ndj1979 I'm curious what you think of the OPs protein. I think because I always overeat protein it seems low.

    He has it set at .8 grams per pound of body weight, which is fine. Like you, I am a protein eating machine so I usually get one pound per pound of body weight. I was actually getting more than that for a while and I actually had a hard time getting to 50% carbs, imagine that! I actually had to cut down on protein and increase carbs...

    I'm wondering if I'll have to do that. I mean I'm getting 160g of protein some days and don't think I understand the importance of carbs just yet. Anyway, don't want to derail. We can talk about that later.

    Should i increase that protein grammage to 1g per body so 169? Also do you take shakes on a bulk cause that would limit your intake of whole foods like chicken etc?

    I would leave your protein where it is.

    As for shakes you can drink them or not, that is up to you. I prefer to eat real food and rarely ever drink shakes.

    as far as calorie prioritization I would say the following..

    1 - get micros and meet nutritional needs
    2 - make sure you get protein and fat minimums
    3 - fill in rest with carbs and eat calorie dense foods so that you are in a surplus.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Aani15 wrote: »
    I have a similar goal of gaining 0.5 kg/week and MFP app gave me 2700 calories/day.
    @Ben2055 Just curious? How did you decide 4 months bulking period? Not 3 or 5? I mean I just want to know, may it help me as well. @arditarose @ndj1979 guys your feedback would be appreciated as well. Thank you!

    it usually takes about two to three weeks to get your calories worked out and actually start gaining so if you only run a three month bulk you are really cutting down on the time that you are actually bulking….hence four months..

    in the end it is all personal preference and your goals will dictate how long you bulk. This time around I am shooting to from 175 to 190 and i am planning on doing that from September to February so just about five months….
  • Ben2055
    Ben2055 Posts: 96 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Aani15 wrote: »
    I have a similar goal of gaining 0.5 kg/week and MFP app gave me 2700 calories/day.
    @Ben2055 Just curious? How did you decide 4 months bulking period? Not 3 or 5? I mean I just want to know, may it help me as well. @arditarose @ndj1979 guys your feedback would be appreciated as well. Thank you!

    it usually takes about two to three weeks to get your calories worked out and actually start gaining so if you only run a three month bulk you are really cutting down on the time that you are actually bulking….hence four months..

    in the end it is all personal preference and your goals will dictate how long you bulk. This time around I am shooting to from 175 to 190 and i am planning on doing that from September to February so just about five months….

    Do you weigh yourself once a week? And if you dont gain, up your kcal adjusting your macros as you get heavier?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Ben2055 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Aani15 wrote: »
    I have a similar goal of gaining 0.5 kg/week and MFP app gave me 2700 calories/day.
    @Ben2055 Just curious? How did you decide 4 months bulking period? Not 3 or 5? I mean I just want to know, may it help me as well. @arditarose @ndj1979 guys your feedback would be appreciated as well. Thank you!

    it usually takes about two to three weeks to get your calories worked out and actually start gaining so if you only run a three month bulk you are really cutting down on the time that you are actually bulking….hence four months..

    in the end it is all personal preference and your goals will dictate how long you bulk. This time around I am shooting to from 175 to 190 and i am planning on doing that from September to February so just about five months….

    Do you weigh yourself once a week? And if you dont gain, up your kcal adjusting your macros as you get heavier?

    Yes, I weigh in every friday. If I have no gain or two weeks, then I up my calories. yes, as you get heavier you will have to re-adjust your calorie and macros. When I started I was gaining on about 2900 calories a day, as of today, I am up to 3300 calories a day.

    You may want to consider automatically increasing your calories by 100 every 5 pounds you gain ….