Devil Worship and Intervention
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Protranser wrote: »I have noticed since doing MFP and paying attention to meeting the minimum goals for my protein and fat intake, that my cravings for sugary foods have gone down drastically - not 100% - as every so often the sugar-monster makes an appearance and I have to have something like a Little Debbie cake or a Rice Krispies treat or a lollipop - but I've gone from wanting it daily, every time I'm hungry, to only wanting it every so often.
Hmm. Okay. Next time I cook, I'll try to add in more protein. My SO has no desire to lose weight or change diet, so when we spend time together, I'm trying to see if I can at least mitigate some of the poor diet choices my SO makes. This is probably the wrong idea though; when we're not together, my SO will just go back to eating a low protein, high fat, high sugar/carb diet, all the while maintaining a mostly sedentary lifestyle with no meaningful exercise.
Since your SO is prediabetic, s/he is likely also insulin resistant. In that case, look into significantly lowering all carbohydrate, and upping fat intake, and eating protein sparingly. This will regulate the pre-diabetic condition and reduce the cravings. S/he now is at the mercy of the insulin response to eating any carbohydrate. It's not a question of willpower.0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »There is nothing evil about sugar. You have an unhealthy way of looking at food. I have nothing in my diet to atone for.
there is if you're prediabetic, mate.0 -
Protranser wrote: »nvmomketo and other keto/low carbers i've been seeing contribute to these forums, I'm glad to hear your sugar cravings have vanished.
I am seeing a repeating theme in this thread that illustrates the importance of choosing to commit to healthier living, whatever that translates to for us individually. I suppose my SO feels like they're living the best they can, and I should just accept that and live the best I can.
You are probably right, but it is very sad. I've completely turned things around by making a few small changes to my diet and watching portion sizes. I went from being on the cusp of diabetes to consistently having a fasting blood sugar under 70 and an A1C under 5.0.
Now I don't have to worry about amputation, losing my eyesight, having to deal with insulin shots or needing to have a kidney transplant down the road. It's really worth it, and one can still occasionally have an espresso drink of ill repute...perhaps with Splenda.
I think that, in your position, I would be gradually taking over a lot of the cooking and making it subtly diabetic-friendly and veggie-rich.0 -
Protranser wrote: »nvmomketo and other keto/low carbers i've been seeing contribute to these forums, I'm glad to hear your sugar cravings have vanished.
I am seeing a repeating theme in this thread that illustrates the importance of choosing to commit to healthier living, whatever that translates to for us individually. I suppose my SO feels like they're living the best they can, and I should just accept that and live the best I can.
Yep. You've got it. Acceptance will make things a lot easier.
Good luck to you.
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I can't purchase ice cream or pastries anymore....they don't last a full 24 hours. Chips and crackers are like that too. I get unsalted saltine crackers every once in a while because I'm not tempted to eat them. I have no self control and the only way that I can not eat these things is to go cold turkey.
I can't have nice things lol0 -
Protranser wrote: »I have noticed since doing MFP and paying attention to meeting the minimum goals for my protein and fat intake, that my cravings for sugary foods have gone down drastically - not 100% - as every so often the sugar-monster makes an appearance and I have to have something like a Little Debbie cake or a Rice Krispies treat or a lollipop - but I've gone from wanting it daily, every time I'm hungry, to only wanting it every so often.
Hmm. Okay. Next time I cook, I'll try to add in more protein. My SO has no desire to lose weight or change diet, so when we spend time together, I'm trying to see if I can at least mitigate some of the poor diet choices my SO makes. This is probably the wrong idea though; when we're not together, my SO will just go back to eating a low protein, high fat, high sugar/carb diet, all the while maintaining a mostly sedentary lifestyle with no meaningful exercise.
Since your SO is prediabetic, s/he is likely also insulin resistant. In that case, look into significantly lowering all carbohydrate, and upping fat intake, and eating protein sparingly. This will regulate the pre-diabetic condition and reduce the cravings. S/he now is at the mercy of the insulin response to eating any carbohydrate. It's not a question of willpower.
And why precisely does he control what his SO eats? He doesn't -- that seems to be the issue/concern.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »I'm more of a reformed Pastafarian than a devil-worshiper.
I really love pasta and rice with savory seasonings and would love to be able to eat them in overly-large servings.
Yes! (and +1 for "reformed Pastafarian")
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Since your SO is prediabetic, s/he is likely also insulin resistant. In that case, look into significantly lowering all carbohydrate, and upping fat intake, and eating protein sparingly. This will regulate the pre-diabetic condition and reduce the cravings. S/he now is at the mercy of the insulin response to eating any carbohydrate. It's not a question of willpower. [/quote]
why low / sparingly protein ?0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »Protranser wrote: »Has anyone migrated their taste preferences away from soda, candy, and cakes to fruit and sweet vegetables? Was this a choice you had to commit to, or did it suddenly happen for you, like it did for me?
Background is below, feel free to skip.
My SO really likes sugar, is pre-diabetic and on medication. I realize there's nothing wrong with sugar in moderation, and I get the impression moderation is harder for people who have a dietary preference for candy, soda, and cakes.
I've never been a huge fan of soda, I do love cake and pastries, and I am okay with candy. I frequently find myself eating fruit and some veggies for sweet flavors, versus pouring sugar into my food/drink. This is not to say I completely abstain from devil worship. I enjoy the occasional demonic possession, and run into a nearby parking lot to cry when I'm done eating it, as is the proper way to atone for sin.
am I the only person who finds this part to be offensive?
Offensive no, but very, very sad that the OP has such a distorted view of food. The sniff test indicates an eating disorder or at least one in the making.
Well actually the way I read the original post was that it was intended as complete humor and maybe a weak point for the OP, but intended to be taken lightly in the worst case. So really for me it becomes a question of intentions and how the others reading those written words take them.
Does the OP have a distorted view of food, or was he completely joking and some could assume you have a distorted view of his sense of humor? I think it's quite possible neither, either, or both could be true.
Yes, I interpreted the OP as poking fun at the concept of sugar as the devil and do see others as having distorted views of his sense of humor.
That's my take on it also.0 -
man, i was expecting to listen to beatles albums backwards and draw pentagrams and stuff in this thread.
and i all saw was that sugar is the devil.
talk about disappointment.0 -
Protranser wrote: »nvmomketo and other keto/low carbers i've been seeing contribute to these forums, I'm glad to hear your sugar cravings have vanished.
I am seeing a repeating theme in this thread that illustrates the importance of choosing to commit to healthier living, whatever that translates to for us individually. I suppose my SO feels like they're living the best they can, and I should just accept that and live the best I can.
It took me months, to commit after knowing I was prediabetic. Probably close to a year. Before that i would just try to cut back on total food amount in an effort to lose weight. I just got hungrier and felt deprived because I should only have a little, which translates to the amount I wanted. LOL Oddly, if I have none, I don't feel deprived.
Anyways, I didn't make a big change until I was ready. I had made some small changes like coconut cream in coffee and almost no grains, but the big change of dropping my carb level took a long time fpr me to accept as needed. I kept trying other things...0 -
Dr (Richard) Bernstein's Diabetes Solutions was the diet I followed. Would she be open to books or videos? There's a few good book and Youtube videos. These are good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1vvigy5tQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMhLBPPtlrY 0 -
Yep yep yep, watch that first TED talk. It's a great one.0
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Thanks! I'll pass the videos along0
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Not JUST a sugar thread! Repent and confess in the spaces below, unless you enjoy heathen status0
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In regards to the OP... I could not and would not replace one for the other. It's a lovely thought I could pretentiously tell people in passing but I would be so sad inside! I just eat both as I want them.0
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I have found that in the first few months, it is rather difficult not to give in to the sweet demons. I have discovered, as a friend of mine always says, after he lost a lot of weight, he found his taste buds changed. He'd go to get something he once thought was epitomy of deliciousness, and discovered it wasn't as tasty as he remembered, and was bummed.
After a while, you'll start wanting other things - just be patient enough to wait for it, and don't dwell on it. Get it out of your system and move on. After all, we are human. It's not a case of if we will stumble but when. 0 -
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »
such a good show0 -
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LOL0
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I have found that at times, I ask forgiveness for my sins before the fact. I do one hail bike ride and at least one hail elliptical chant, then head to the land of unlimited deserts at the buffet.
Using the confessional booths can work as well. But I really hate to tell the guy that I might just be coming right back.0
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