....That's weird

Lounmoun

I have had a much bigger waist size than hip size until recently that made buying pants that fit nicely without a stretch waist pretty impossible. I prefer to shop online with lots of measurements and size charts in hand.
Sounds like you were irritated because your mom pressured you into clothes shopping, asked for pants when you didn't want to go there and then made comments about your lack of sewing skills. You transferred your irritation to the sales clerk.

macgurlnet

synacious wrote: »

I don't think the cashier was trying to offend you. I'm not sure if you felt that way because of how she said it, the fact that she said it in general, or the fact that she was supposedly a size 2 and saying it to you.

As for your question of this happening to anyone else, yes, it happens to me too and I'm actually in between a size 0 and a size 2 depending on the store. A few weeks ago there was a 30% off jean sale at Target, who is NOTORIOUS for vanity sizing, and I ended up having to get pants in a size 00 and a size 0. The size 2 fit decently in the legs, but there was a huge gap between my back and the waistline of the jeans. The size 0 fit better in the waist, but still had more leg room than expected. The size 00 fit best in the legs, but was slightly too snug in the waist. It's no longer an issue now that the pants are broken into thankfully. I damn well know I'm no size 00, but that's what it took just to get passable, but not perfect fitting pants.

And here I thought I was losing my damn mind when I shopped there and bought size 0 shorts and they're just a touch big.

OP -

Cashiers nearly always feel like they have to make small talk with you. That need leads to them saying things they may not really mean to say.

It's not necessarily a comment on your figure - more an observation than anything else.

~Lyssa

LaceyBirds

booksandchocolate12 wrote: »

I also have the same issue with pants that fit my butt are too big in the waist! Levi's are great if you have that problem.

Can you please tell me what number and/or name of Levi's do this? It has been a problem my whole life, thin or fat, and there are so many brands and then different styles within those brands that I am completely lost when I go into a store.

Thanks.

shadows2424

I just came to say seems like you got a lot of hate for your post. I understood you perfectly well and can understand feeling upset by the cashiers comment.That said I've never had trouble being in between sizes but i know its a common issue. Hopefully you'll find what works for you.

elphie754

shadows2424 wrote: »

I just came to say seems like you got a lot of hate for your post. I understood you perfectly well and can understand feeling upset by the cashiers comment.That said I've never had trouble being in between sizes but i know its a common issue. Hopefully you'll find what works for you.

Not hate, just people pointing out that freaking out at someone for this would have been unreasonable.

azulvioleta6

Hmmm, I have always thought that NY & Co clothes were pretty true to size, but I guess I've never ordered pants from them.

You are lucky to have one close at hand--I don't think that there is a brick-and-mortar store within 1000 miles of me. I order from them online, but their returns are a pain in the neck, so no pants for me.

For an hourglass shape, stretch is your friend. You might also try ethnic clothing stores if you have them in your area. Latin American and Brazilian clothing is much more hourglass-friendly than clothing produced for the US market.

Sued0nim

I'm hourglass

Far more markedly so when I'm carrying extra weight ...and then no nothing would fit probably ...if it looked good over my bum then the waist would gape....it was a very weird brand that would actually fit into my curves and I'd have to go for more tailored lines to have any chance

Now that I've lost weight it's much less noticeable but it's still there

Also clothes sizes mean nothing ...I can spread across 2 different sizes within the same manufacturer let alone across brands

Clothes shopping is however far more pleasurable when I don't think people are judging me...not that they ever were of course, that's an internal voice condemning you not an external one

Mark_76

Some people don't have a filter lol. I have the same trouble, I'm a big bloke so needless to say I need X sizes but the issue is never my waist, it's always my thighs, they're huge. So I get where you're coming from with getting the right fit. For me, I just accept that some people's attitudes can be rude but I don't let it bother me, I put myself in this position with my weight and if some feel the desire to mock, I just smile knowing I might have the bigger a.s.s but it's better than being the bigger a.s.s.hole

Ioras88

Me in a nutshell the last time I tried to buy new pants: small size too small, big size too big.
I admit I hate belts so I don't use any (they feel terrible to me).
Ah, you know how it is. At some point you'll fit into factory size pants again

... but there's no remedy to how I'm between two shoe sizes. xD It's terrible. They don't sell in-between sizes in local shops anymore and I'm reluctant to shop online for shoes.

ARGriffy

arditarose wrote: »

I used to have a 29 inch waist and 44 inch hips...so no, you're not the only one.

Yeah, 24 waist and 41 hips here, jeans are a flipping nightmare to buy! I can only wear low riders anything higher I'm done for!

arditarose

ARGriffy wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

I used to have a 29 inch waist and 44 inch hips...so no, you're not the only one.

Yeah, 24 waist and 41 hips here, jeans are a flipping nightmare to buy! I can only wear low riders anything higher I'm done for!

Such tiny waist! Amazing.

duddysdad

I wear a 33 waist in Wrangler jeans. 33s are a bit big, 32s won't even fasten.

Whitezombiegirl

What i got from this was that the cashier was suprised that they didnt fit because they were the size the OP asked for - and she knows her own size, right? It would imply that the clothing size was out- which she thought was wierd.

Also what are the measurements for US size 0 and 00? I was wondering how that relates to uk sizes. I recently had to have a skirt waist taken in - it was supposedly a uk size 8 but had a 27 inch waist! Id.not have usually bothered and got rid but i love the fabric.

tomteboda

@Whitezombiegirl , you might be interested in this Wiki article: US Standard Clothing Size

PeachyCarol

booksandchocolate12 wrote: »

rainbowbow wrote: »

I shop at ny & co because they actually have some style pants that fit me well (slim fit). I wear a size 0/1 there but atleast a size 3 in every other brand.

Yep. I wear a smaller size at NY&C than I do at other stores. Which is why I like it.

Oh, gotta check them out! I shop at Old Navy and have this experience too. I hesitate to shop elsewhere because ON carries a cut of jeans that fits me perfectly.

kristen6350

Something you need to know about NY&C...that's where I have to buy all my work pants. I've had to since I was 17 years old (I turned 37 yesterday). I'm 5'11, 36" inseam. They are the only pants i have find in the right length (or at least do able, since most are 35") that I can afford (or at least want to spend on pants).

I have noticed I can find 1 pair of pants I like in there, and each color will fit differently. Even if you pick up a pair that is say an 8 in brown, and they don't fit right, try another 8 brown...they might fit differently. Seriously, ask the women who work there - they will tell you that no one item in that store fits like the other...The fact that the sales woman said what she said is because she didn't care. It was something to say. You were more than likely not even a blimp on her radar and she had something else on her mind. Find one who cares to help - they exists. I was one of them at one time...LOL

Whitezombiegirl

tomteboda wrote: »

@Whitezombiegirl , you might be interested in this Wiki article: US Standard Clothing Size

Thanks hun. Its really intetesing. Vanity sizing is just getting ridiculous - its even with shoes now!

justrollme

kristen6350 wrote: »

Something you need to know about NY&C...that's where I have to buy all my work pants. I've had to since I was 17 years old (I turned 37 yesterday). I'm 5'11, 36" inseam. They are the only pants i have find in the right length (or at least do able, since most are 35") that I can afford (or at least want to spend on pants).

I have noticed I can find 1 pair of pants I like in there, and each color will fit differently. Even if you pick up a pair that is say an 8 in brown, and they don't fit right, try another 8 brown...they might fit differently. Seriously, ask the women who work there - they will tell you that no one item in that store fits like the other...The fact that the sales woman said what she said is because she didn't care. It was something to say. You were more than likely not even a blimp on her radar and she had something else on her mind. Find one who cares to help - they exists. I was one of them at one time...LOL

I used to work in retail apparel, too, and this is quite true. (Not sure if this part is true, but a designer once told me that mass-produced clothing is usually cut in a stack, which is part of why there can be such a discrepancy between items of the same size, explaining that the fabric on the top of the stack will end up slightly different than the fabric at the bottom. And most assemblies are done in segments, by people using machines, rapidly moving the fabric, room for lots of human error.) I remember that darker colored dyes, especially darkest denim and any fabric in black, typically had a smaller fit in the same size as other pieces in lighter colors, no idea if there was some reason for that or if it only seemed that way.

jemhh

justrollme wrote: »

kristen6350 wrote: »

Something you need to know about NY&C...that's where I have to buy all my work pants. I've had to since I was 17 years old (I turned 37 yesterday). I'm 5'11, 36" inseam. They are the only pants i have find in the right length (or at least do able, since most are 35") that I can afford (or at least want to spend on pants).

I have noticed I can find 1 pair of pants I like in there, and each color will fit differently. Even if you pick up a pair that is say an 8 in brown, and they don't fit right, try another 8 brown...they might fit differently. Seriously, ask the women who work there - they will tell you that no one item in that store fits like the other...The fact that the sales woman said what she said is because she didn't care. It was something to say. You were more than likely not even a blimp on her radar and she had something else on her mind. Find one who cares to help - they exists. I was one of them at one time...LOL

I used to work in retail apparel, too, and this is quite true. (Not sure if this part is true, but a designer once told me that mass-produced clothing is usually cut in a stack, which is part of why there can be such a discrepancy between items of the same size, explaining that the fabric on the top of the stack will end up slightly different than the fabric at the bottom. And most assemblies are done in segments, by people using machines, rapidly moving the fabric, room for lots of human error.) I remember that darker colored dyes, especially darkest denim and any fabric in black, typically had a smaller fit in the same size as other pieces in lighter colors, no idea if there was some reason for that or if it only seemed that way.

I've really noticed that (the bolded part.) My husband was trying on jeans last month and when he found a pair he liked, he wanted to get another pair in a darker wash. I told him before he tried them on that I predicted they would be too small and they were. He was surprised about how much smaller they seemed to be.

stealthq

I'm still in between sizes. I don't think I was ever solidly in one size the whole time I gained or lost weight. There are a lot of people who are just not proportioned like the sizing models.

Just buy the larger (and/or longer) size and get it altered if you like the clothes well enough, or find a store than cuts their clothes so they fit you, if you can. I have little luck with the latter, at least for pants.

SuggaD

I'm in-between sizes too. I've pretty much given up on finding well-fitting pants off the rack. They fit in the waist, but not the legs (too big).

NotPhyllis

Sometimes weight comes off more from one place than another.

I have lost about20 lbs since August. The pants that fit hips and thighs slide down uncomfortably on my belly. If I could find high waisted pants other than front pleats fro the thrift shops, I would grab them.

To answer your question, change in body shape is not weird and , for me, I can't tell if it is permanent. While I am in the process of losing weight ( and seeing if I can keep it off), I have been buying jeans at Salvation Army stores and dress pants from resale and thrift shops. It doesn't feel as bad to "out grow" something I only paid $5 for.

Keep up the good work on the weight loss.

rankinsect

In the waist, I pretty much always wear a belt anyway so I can always go a size up if I need to and adjust the fit with a belt without it looking bad.

My real problem is that I need a 29 inch length for my pants, and even online it's often hard to find pants shorter than a 30 particularly with the waist size I need, so my pants end up a bit too long in the leg and I end up occasionally stepping on them.

azulvioleta6

rankinsect wrote: »

In the waist, I pretty much always wear a belt anyway so I can always go a size up if I need to and adjust the fit with a belt without it looking bad.

My real problem is that I need a 29 inch length for my pants, and even online it's often hard to find pants shorter than a 30 particularly with the waist size I need, so my pants end up a bit too long in the leg and I end up occasionally stepping on them.

I am so glad that jeans for women can now be found in short (S) sizes. I got really sick of overly-long jeans as my inseam is about 28" even though I am tall. It's especially awful during the cold, wet winter to drag around dirty pant legs.

There is a very easy way to hem jeans with a regular sewing machine which preserves the original edge. It's pretty easy to do. All of my Mexican friends with 25-27" inseams come to me for this. Dress pants can be hemmed by hand.

PM me if you want instructions.

CoffeeNCardio

On the one hand, I get why OP was so upset. I harbored a lot of unfounded ill will toward people thinner than me before I got my act together and chose to do what I had to do to join them. Who wouldn't love to be one of those people who doesn't have to consciously choose to eat less or who has never experienced some of the unfounded cruelty that's been directed at me? Like, in all honesty, who wouldn't, given the chance, take a pill that made you able to just go about your day and eat what you want and what you want just happens to be skinny you maintenance calories? Never having been fat, no loose skin, no stretch marks. That's like saying you wouldn't wanna win a million dollars tomorrow no strings attached. These were what fueled my jealous and resentful and unhappy feelings.

On the other hand, those feelings, that jealousy, was about me. Internal, save for the cruelty I experienced by being judged by weight alone and not by "hello, I'm actually kind of a good person ya know". No size 2 person, even one who has always been a size 2 without having to put the slightest bit of conscious effort into it, has anything to do with me being fat. I'm the reason I got fat, and if that size two person wasn't a jerk to me for my fat, then they don't deserve my ill will. Period.

OP, I think you're mentally in a rough place right now, and I get it. I think probably most people here get it (or got it once and seem to have forgotten). Being overweight really really sucks. It makes you hate yourself and that anger gets projected because that's what angry people do sometimes, project. You need to focus on feelings you can control, internally, like your reactions to skinny people. They haven't got anything to do with your weight and 99/100 of them aren't judging you, they're just going about their day like anyone, and like I'm sure EVERYONE does on a daily basis, they sometimes make offhand comments that don't mean a dam thing and it can be taken the wrong way by others.

You wanna stop feeling this way? Take control of your own choices, your own feelings, and your own judgments. F*** everyone else, grow a pair and tell your mom that shopping is not your thing until you get to goal weight, and when the next size 2 sales chick comes along, recognize YOUR prejudgments, instead of projecting them onto her. She works in retail probably making not enough $$ to afford those shirts she sold you, so even if she was being nasty(unlikely), deep breathe and let it go and focus on getting your own mind and your own body where you will be happy and this kind of nonsense won't bother you anymore. Focus on what you can change. You can change your body so you never have to worry about this again.