Carb Addicts Diet....
mnalsa83
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I tried the Keto Diet (under 20 carbs daily) and did so for a month. I struggled only because no one else in my household really stuck to do it and I was constantly making two meals to satisfy everyone and just about everything I thoughts as healthy for you (veggies had carbs ?!?!?! & fruit was a no-no) and I have NEVER been a meat and fats person, so trying to get enough protein and fat in my diet, just wasn't easy. Plus my monthly cravings aren't sugar/chocolate, it's chips! A total no-no.
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
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I hope it works well for you.
I have what feels like a mild carb/sugar addiction so having cheats doesn't work well for me. It leads to eating too much and giving up control of my foods. I find staying on keto works better.
I eat the same meals as my family though so it isn't too hard. I just skip the starchy fillers like potatoes, noodles, rice, etc., and add a bit more fats to my meats.
Try paleo cook books or keto sites for food ideas. The Low Carber Daily group as a great thread right now on meal ideas for your lower carb meals.
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I hope it works well for you.
I have what feels like a mild carb/sugar addiction so having cheats doesn't work well for me. It leads to eating too much and giving up control of my foods. I find staying on keto works better.
I eat the same meals as my family though so it isn't too hard. I just skip the starchy fillers like potatoes, noodles, rice, etc., and add a bit more fats to my meats.
Try paleo cook books or keto sites for food ideas. The Low Carber Daily group as a great thread right now on meal ideas for your lower carb meals.
Good luck.
I was going to recommend the Low Carb group as well, but since you beat me too it, I shall post a link: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
I tried that diet years ago when the book first came out.
I think if it works for you, it's great.
As long as you're still paying attention to calories.
My problem at the time? I thought it was magic and wasn't paying attention to calories. Needless to say, I didn't lose weight. I managed to pack away a lot of calories in that reward meal.0 -
Keto was not sustainable for me. For months I did keto during the week with a massive carby cheat meal on Saturday. I feel a whole heck of a lot better since I switched to IIFYM and I am still in a downward weight trend but I'm close to goal so it's going a little slowly.0
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Why do you believe you are "addicted" specifically to carbs? This implies that in order to "recover" you can't have carbs at all, and that would not be healthy. 20 grams of carbs per day is pretty strict, but some people manage quite well.
I don't believe food should ever be a reward. That's what sent me on the path of binge eating then an eating disorder as a late teen and young adult, then back to binge eating.
I don't believe in cheat meals either.
Find something that is sustainable for you. Keto is just a way to restrict calories so that you eat less than you burn, which is what leads to weight loss.
The only requirement for weight loss is eating less calories than you burn, anything outside of that is preference.0 -
I tried the Keto Diet (under 20 carbs daily) and did so for a month. I struggled only because no one else in my household really stuck to do it and I was constantly making two meals to satisfy everyone and just about everything I thoughts as healthy for you (veggies had carbs ?!?!?! & fruit was a no-no) and I have NEVER been a meat and fats person, so trying to get enough protein and fat in my diet, just wasn't easy. Plus my monthly cravings aren't sugar/chocolate, it's chips! A total no-no.
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
If you really love carbs and have no medical need to eliminate them - why bother with a low carb diet? It's certainly not the only way to lose weight, nor does it really give any better fat loss than other diets (there is a bit more water weight / glycogen loss). Frankly, unless you're going to eat low carb for life, it won't really do any favors to go low carb for weight loss, because you won't learn how to maintain unless your weight loss uses a similar strategy to maintenance.
I'm 65 pounds down since the summer, and my last week's meals have included:
* Pizza twice (once at a really good pizzeria, once at a party)
* A half-pound hamburger with tomato, lettuce, and onion, plus gelato and a cookie
* Tacos
* Waffles with syrup
* Sugary breakfast cereal (one of my common snack foods)
* Spaghetti with delicious garlic dinner rolls
* Frozen custard
I fail any "clean eating" or "low carb" diet pretty badly, yet I'm overall very successful with weight loss and it's very easy to adhere to my diet as all I really do is control portions. I plan my next day in advance and use a scale to portion out what I eat.
Any food I can fit into my calorie and protein goals is on the menu. Yes, I reduced the amount of certain kinds of sweets because they were high-calorie and not very filling (donuts, I'm looking at you) but I haven't eliminated them, just maybe a donut is a once-a-month thing and not a three-times-a-week thing like before.0 -
If this is what you've decided fine but I lost my weight and maintain eating 50-60% carbs
As others have said it is personal choice not inevitable when you are looking to loose weight how many carbs you eat
For me, any form of carb restriction resulted in major bounce back
Learning to work my calories to my satisfaction, which admittedly results in fewer carbs (250-350g on average) but only because I am calorie aware , had been my route to hitting goal and maintaining
I also own that book...and Harcombe, and Atkins etc0 -
Dreysander wrote: »Keto was not sustainable for me. For months I did keto during the week with a massive carby cheat meal on Saturday. I feel a whole heck of a lot better since I switched to IIFYM and I am still in a downward weight trend but I'm close to goal so it's going a little slowly.
IIFYM???
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Why do you believe you are "addicted" specifically to carbs? This implies that in order to "recover" you can't have carbs at all, and that would not be healthy. 20 grams of carbs per day is pretty strict, but some people manage quite well.
I don't believe food should ever be a reward. That's what sent me on the path of binge eating then an eating disorder as a late teen and young adult, then back to binge eating.
I don't believe in cheat meals either.
Find something that is sustainable for you. Keto is just a way to restrict calories so that you eat less than you burn, which is what leads to weight loss.
The only requirement for weight loss is eating less calories than you burn, anything outside of that is preference.
I say addicted because I am NOT a big fan of Meats period and two, oils butters etc. as far as healthy fats I have never been one to cook with.... what I would prefer my meals being is rice, beans, potatoes, veggies and fruit .... Carbs. So eating nothing but those items leaves me feeling tired and blah. I am not, nor have I ever been overweight, but I do have a bit to lose. I have to force myself to eat meat as it is, so the low carb diets (Atkins & Kato) was not easy because then all I wanted was the salty crunchy carb... I can easily sit down and eat a bag of tortilla chips alone by my self (especially that time of month). So the idea of having a RM, and being able to have some carbs, will hopefully satisfy the need i crave, but still limit the amount that I actually eat.0 -
Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
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catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?0 -
catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
El oh el0 -
Dreysander wrote: »Keto was not sustainable for me. For months I did keto during the week with a massive carby cheat meal on Saturday. I feel a whole heck of a lot better since I switched to IIFYM and I am still in a downward weight trend but I'm close to goal so it's going a little slowly.
IIFYM is not a specific diet...it is only eating to the macro goals that one sets. Thus if someone sets the carb macros to 20%...protein and fats to 40% each and eats to fulfill those goals then they have used IIFYM.
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Why do you believe you are "addicted" specifically to carbs? This implies that in order to "recover" you can't have carbs at all, and that would not be healthy. 20 grams of carbs per day is pretty strict, but some people manage quite well.
I don't believe food should ever be a reward. That's what sent me on the path of binge eating then an eating disorder as a late teen and young adult, then back to binge eating.
I don't believe in cheat meals either.
Find something that is sustainable for you. Keto is just a way to restrict calories so that you eat less than you burn, which is what leads to weight loss.
The only requirement for weight loss is eating less calories than you burn, anything outside of that is preference.
I say addicted because I am NOT a big fan of Meats period and two, oils butters etc. as far as healthy fats I have never been one to cook with.... what I would prefer my meals being is rice, beans, potatoes, veggies and fruit .... Carbs. So eating nothing but those items leaves me feeling tired and blah. I am not, nor have I ever been overweight, but I do have a bit to lose. I have to force myself to eat meat as it is, so the low carb diets (Atkins & Kato) was not easy because then all I wanted was the salty crunchy carb... I can easily sit down and eat a bag of tortilla chips alone by my self (especially that time of month). So the idea of having a RM, and being able to have some carbs, will hopefully satisfy the need i crave, but still limit the amount that I actually eat.
I don't think that sounds like addiction, just preference.
With those preferences, what I'd probably do is focus on the standard default macros recommended by MFP or a calculation of the recommended amounts of protein and fat by body weight (benefit up to about .65 g of protein per lb of healthy body weight, something like .35 g of fat per healthy body weight) and not worry about anything but hitting the minimums with the macros that you are less inclined toward. That, as well as focusing on including lots of healthy carbs like legumes, vegetables and fruits, whole grains, would make sure you have a balanced diet and would be easier for me than being super strict (and pursuing a macro mix I didn't care for) most of the time and then having a blow out meal.
But obviously you should try whatever you want. Many of us have lost easily without cutting way down on our carb percentage, though. I tend to enjoy protein and fat (both tend to end up a bit higher than my goals without me trying), but I still focus on getting 40-50% carbs and have not had any problem losing with that amount (and others with different preferences eat even more).0 -
Why do you believe you are "addicted" specifically to carbs? This implies that in order to "recover" you can't have carbs at all, and that would not be healthy. 20 grams of carbs per day is pretty strict, but some people manage quite well.
I don't believe food should ever be a reward. That's what sent me on the path of binge eating then an eating disorder as a late teen and young adult, then back to binge eating.
I don't believe in cheat meals either.
Find something that is sustainable for you. Keto is just a way to restrict calories so that you eat less than you burn, which is what leads to weight loss.
The only requirement for weight loss is eating less calories than you burn, anything outside of that is preference.
I say addicted because I am NOT a big fan of Meats period and two, oils butters etc. as far as healthy fats I have never been one to cook with.... what I would prefer my meals being is rice, beans, potatoes, veggies and fruit .... Carbs. So eating nothing but those items leaves me feeling tired and blah. I am not, nor have I ever been overweight, but I do have a bit to lose. I have to force myself to eat meat as it is, so the low carb diets (Atkins & Kato) was not easy because then all I wanted was the salty crunchy carb... I can easily sit down and eat a bag of tortilla chips alone by my self (especially that time of month). So the idea of having a RM, and being able to have some carbs, will hopefully satisfy the need i crave, but still limit the amount that I actually eat.
I don't like meat either.
So I don't eat it.
It does sound like you tend to like a lot of the starchy carbs, and you say they left you feeling tired and blah.
Let me ask you this... when you were eating that way, did you pay attention to how much protein you were eating?
What if I told you that it's possible to tweak your preferred way of eating and still lose weight AND not feel that tired, blah feeling?0 -
I tried the Keto Diet (under 20 carbs daily) and did so for a month. I struggled only because no one else in my household really stuck to do it and I was constantly making two meals to satisfy everyone and just about everything I thoughts as healthy for you (veggies had carbs ?!?!?! & fruit was a no-no) and I have NEVER been a meat and fats person, so trying to get enough protein and fat in my diet, just wasn't easy. Plus my monthly cravings aren't sugar/chocolate, it's chips! A total no-no.
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
@mnalsa83 I only cut my carbs to <50 grams daily. Now I eat anything at anytime as long as it does not contain any form of grains or most forms of sugars. It has been my way of eating since Oct 2014 and still is Dec 2015. At my age I finally gave up on trying to 'lose' weight and just started eating in a way that makes me feel better. As my health improves the weight is slowly dropping as a side effect of having no food cravings.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »Why do you believe you are "addicted" specifically to carbs? This implies that in order to "recover" you can't have carbs at all, and that would not be healthy. 20 grams of carbs per day is pretty strict, but some people manage quite well.
I don't believe food should ever be a reward. That's what sent me on the path of binge eating then an eating disorder as a late teen and young adult, then back to binge eating.
I don't believe in cheat meals either.
Find something that is sustainable for you. Keto is just a way to restrict calories so that you eat less than you burn, which is what leads to weight loss.
The only requirement for weight loss is eating less calories than you burn, anything outside of that is preference.
I say addicted because I am NOT a big fan of Meats period and two, oils butters etc. as far as healthy fats I have never been one to cook with.... what I would prefer my meals being is rice, beans, potatoes, veggies and fruit .... Carbs. So eating nothing but those items leaves me feeling tired and blah. I am not, nor have I ever been overweight, but I do have a bit to lose. I have to force myself to eat meat as it is, so the low carb diets (Atkins & Kato) was not easy because then all I wanted was the salty crunchy carb... I can easily sit down and eat a bag of tortilla chips alone by my self (especially that time of month). So the idea of having a RM, and being able to have some carbs, will hopefully satisfy the need i crave, but still limit the amount that I actually eat.
I don't like meat either.
So I don't eat it.
It does sound like you tend to like a lot of the starchy carbs, and you say they left you feeling tired and blah.
Let me ask you this... when you were eating that way, did you pay attention to how much protein you were eating?
What if I told you that it's possible to tweak your preferred way of eating and still lose weight AND not feel that tired, blah feeling?
Like I said before, I am don't prefer meat... My protein, even now with trying to eat more of it, is still under 70g a day where my carbs without watching, were well over 200g daily. My source of protein came normally from the bit of legumes that I did eat (mainly black and garbanzo beans). Actual meat is usually chicken and no more than maybe 3-4Oz daily. Red meat, a lot less. There were the occasional "green" shakes that I put protein powder in as well.
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catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Nope, not true. The healthiest thing you can do is find a diet that is sustainable for you.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.0 -
catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Thank you for proving yourself as yet another n=1 sample that uses anecdotal "it worked for me" coupled with hyperbole and fallacies to support your position. Every fruit and vegetable consumed by humanoids contained carbs. Our bodies are designed for us to be omnivores, eating all three macro nutrients. Your arbitrary 50g number is unsupported by anything in your posts.0 -
catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Oh dear. Lots of wrong in here. People lived only near the coastline huh0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Oh dear. Lots of wrong in here. People lived near the coastline huh
And they depended on fish rather than plants ... the gathering portion of anthopologic hunter/gatherer doesn't fit the narrative so, it gets discarded.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Oh dear. Lots of wrong in here. People lived near the coastline huh
And they depended on fish rather than plants ... the gathering portion of anthopologic hunter/gatherer doesn't fit the narrative so, it gets discarded.
Lucy(Australopithecus) found where? Ethiopia. In a very arid part of the world.0 -
catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Early humans certainly ate carbs, particularly starchy roots and tubers, and they could have gone over the 50 gram mark just eating one yam. Wild plants were likely a very important part of their diet (and still are a part of the diet of humans living in western sub-Saharan Africa today). Animal products are very nourishing but they also require more calorie investment, and often greater danger. Plants aren't very good at fighting or fleeing, so they would have been excellent finds while foraging.0 -
There is no one, monolithic ancestral diet. That said, there is no traditional human diet that was ketogenic or close to eating only 50g of carbs per day. Not even the Inuit.catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
In fact, since most overweight and obese people are in some way insulin resistant, they should not consume sugars.
Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
They lived near the coastline, eating fish and fats.
Our bodies are designed that way.
Urgh, I know I should give you some quotes here to convince you.
I know it worked for me.
I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
Evolutionary speaking, sedge eating appears in human ancestors as long ago as 4 million years, and presumably amylase and similar genes appeared around that time. Human ancestors eating carrion and possibly hunting has little evidence for being older than 2 million years old. Prior to either of those, our diets would have been largely fruigivorian, which is also high in carbohydrates.
On top of that, evolution is not evidence of health. Much of what our ancestors would eat out of necessity would not be considered healthy to eat simply based on the chance of infection. Some experiments suggest that living in a perpetually underfed state with a diet high in anti-oxidants leads rodents to live far longer than average lives, even though such diets would not be their evolutionary diet.0 -
catharinamkotze wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »catharinamkotze wrote: »Google Tim Noakes banting diet.
Sounds similar.
One of the healthiest things you can do for your body is to cut carbs below 50g per day.
Based upon what science?
Actually, you will find that there are several recent studies promoting this, where as there are no studies that has proved a high carb diet is ideal.
Why is the alternative to super low carb always high carb? The SAD has issues, but it's about 50% carb, which is not high carb. The carb (and fat -- it is considered high fat) choices are issues.
Blue zone diets, which are never less than 50 carbs, and can be moderate to high carb, are good evidence that carbs aren't unhealthy.
The fact that no traditional human populations are in ketosis is pretty good evidence that there's no particular benefit to ketosis.
Is it fine and can it be a healthy way to lose weight if one enjoys eating that way? Sure.Carbs are a nutrient you do not need to survive, but you do need fats and protein.
And you need vegetables. Most people who actively cut out fruits and veg and legumes and whole grains will be eating a less healthy diet. Might someone who eats only low nutrient carbs improve their diet by cutting carbs and increasing even sat fat (say lard and mayo and bacon and cheese and, of course, those lovely hot dogs)? Sure, it's possible. But it's not most people and assuming that your particular choices of carbs are representative of everyone would be presumptuous, of course. My diet would be less healthy if I cut way down on carbs and not as suited for my preferred activity level.Remember, early humans did not have access to carbs.
False -- check the science on this.I lost 40kg this year and I did not feel hungry once, because a high fat diet keeps you fuller for longer, which means you will consume less calories.
It does not for me. I find fat completely non satiating. I find many carbs quite satiating. People vary a lot on what is satiating as the current 2 threads about eggs and oatmeal for breakfast demonstrate beautifully. Only keto folks feel compelled to insist that what works for them is a universal rule, which is annoying.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »I tried the Keto Diet (under 20 carbs daily) and did so for a month. I struggled only because no one else in my household really stuck to do it and I was constantly making two meals to satisfy everyone and just about everything I thoughts as healthy for you (veggies had carbs ?!?!?! & fruit was a no-no) and I have NEVER been a meat and fats person, so trying to get enough protein and fat in my diet, just wasn't easy. Plus my monthly cravings aren't sugar/chocolate, it's chips! A total no-no.
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
@mnalsa83 I only cut my carbs to <50 grams daily. Now I eat anything at anytime as long as it does not contain any form of grains or most forms of sugars. It has been my way of eating since Oct 2014 and still is Dec 2015. At my age I finally gave up on trying to 'lose' weight and just started eating in a way that makes me feel better. As my health improves the weight is slowly dropping as a side effect of having no food cravings.
Eating 800 calories of coconut oil a day would neither make me happy nor improve my health.
On the other hand, eating vegetables, legumes, and some fruit, oatmeal, and whole grains (and some ice cream and Christmas cookies in moderation) works for me.0 -
I spent 6 months last year on a keto diet, so here's my two cents.
First it is not a high protein diet, but high fat. I found that I enjoyed the diet a lot. It felt awesome to eat butter, cheese, high fat meats, etc. I really loved that. For a while I felt that I could sustain the diet forever. The cravings for sugary foods stopped pretty quickly and I learned to make some pretty delicious desserts with nuts and chocolate and coconut and other amazing fatty ingredients. And I lost some weight, about 20 pounds in the six months. I certainly didn't lose at some sort of magical speed.
Now here's the downside. During my sixth month, I started losing my hair - a lot of it. I did see my doc who didn't find the reason. But it was so frightening that I quit the diet. Since I left the diet I have regained the weight I lost plus added an additional 5 pounds. I have heard of others losing their hair as well. I cannot prove that the keto diet caused it or add any medical reports as proof. But yes, my hair stopped falling out when I resumed "normal" eating.0 -
Yikes, eating that much coconut oil, or even eating a LCHF diet, would have me in the hospital with out of control acid reflux.lemurcat12 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I tried the Keto Diet (under 20 carbs daily) and did so for a month. I struggled only because no one else in my household really stuck to do it and I was constantly making two meals to satisfy everyone and just about everything I thoughts as healthy for you (veggies had carbs ?!?!?! & fruit was a no-no) and I have NEVER been a meat and fats person, so trying to get enough protein and fat in my diet, just wasn't easy. Plus my monthly cravings aren't sugar/chocolate, it's chips! A total no-no.
My MIL gave me a book, carb addicts diet while to read, since it was the same basic principle. Being 1 month off Keto now, I've gained half of what I lost. I decided to read through the book again. This time, Hubby is on board.
The idea of still being able to have carb as a RM (Reward Meal) seems more feasible, for both of us. Believe it or not, yesterday Hubby had his breakfast (egg omelet & bacon) a salad for lunch with some pork chop and cheese (not quite under 4g) said he was starving but when it came to dinner (and we ate out) he made better choices than me, ate half of his plate and was "satisfied". SUPRISE on his end. Hopefully we can stick to this one easier.
Has anyone had any good luck with this type of diet??? Any recommendations??? Recipes??? Struggles and success stories to help keep us going???
@mnalsa83 I only cut my carbs to <50 grams daily. Now I eat anything at anytime as long as it does not contain any form of grains or most forms of sugars. It has been my way of eating since Oct 2014 and still is Dec 2015. At my age I finally gave up on trying to 'lose' weight and just started eating in a way that makes me feel better. As my health improves the weight is slowly dropping as a side effect of having no food cravings.
Eating 800 calories of coconut oil a day would neither make me happy nor improve my health.
On the other hand, eating vegetables, legumes, and some fruit, oatmeal, and whole grains (and some ice cream and Christmas cookies in moderation) works for me.
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