Why do most fastfood items have less calories internaionally?
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it looks like its all in the ingredients0 -
That's interesting.
I know that Hungry Jacks (Burger King) imports it's french fries from the US. Says so right on the boxes I've seen.
I wonder what the differences are, if any.0 -
My guess is size and I believe some countries don't put sugar in their bread.
So is everything American sweetened with sugar?0 -
My guess is size and I believe some countries don't put sugar in their bread.
So is everything American sweetened with sugar?
A lot yes...or rather more sugar.
Dutch bread does have a bit of sugar just less. And dont get me wrong there is bread with more sugar but that is special breads.
And one in particular the so called sugar bread. It is delicious and sticks to your fingers while you eat it lol
But normal bread no. less sugar so less sweet
Also molasses is used less
Yogurt is less sweet
And potatoes have less sugar ( less sun hours so veggies have less sugar in them naturally)
So in a way a lot of food has less calories. Sometimes just a tiny bit, sometimes like with milk and yogurts the difference can be 30 calories a cup.
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Here for example Dutch whole milk and US whole milk 200ml ( about a cup for both)
See also of course the difference in Fat, Protein and salt etc
Which makes the difference in calories.
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Per cup is not the same as per 200 ml, in fact expressed per 200 ml the two are the same - 124 * 238 / 200 = 1480
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if you weigh it in grams it is ( and i did) a glas of milk here 210 gram and in Holland 208 gram
For the same amount.
Less protein in Dutch milk and sugar makes the difference and less fat btw0 -
But for better comparing than in grams Dutch "magere jogart is 33 calories per 100 gram
the lowest in the US is 49 gram per 100 calories0 -
Everything in fast food is so processed and uses so much salt. I'd assume the sweetness of the sugar is to cut the distinct sodium taste? Idk, whenever I cook, if I over-salt something, I counter it with sugar.0
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yeah i think it is all together...the portion size, preparation etc
Laws about what can be added to food and not.
It all plays its part.0 -
Big Mac & Medium Fries :-
UK: 845 kcal, 42g fat, 84g carbohydrate, 9.6g sugars, 7.2g fibre, 30g protein, 2.9g salt
US: 870 kcal, 44g fat, 91g Total carbohydrate, 9g sugars, 7g fiber, 28g protein, 2.9g salt0 -
Big Mac & Medium Fries :-
UK: 845 kcal, 42g fat, 84g carbohydrate, 9.6g sugars, 7.2g fibre, 30g protein, 2.9g salt
US: 870 kcal, 44g fat, 91g Total carbohydrate, 9g sugars, 7g fiber, 28g protein, 2.9g salt
Big Mac:
AU: 493 kcal
Medium Fries:
AU: 368 kcal
Total: 861 kcal
https://mcdonalds.com.au/sites/mcdonalds.com.au/files/Aust-main-menu-21-October-2015.pdf
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BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »But for better comparing than in grams Dutch "magere jogart is 33 calories per 100 gram
the lowest in the US is 49 gram per 100 calories
that doesn't make too much sense TBH.
Perhaps you can find us Dutch and US milk on the same basis for comparison, rather than a 19% difference in quantity analysed.0 -
100 gram of Mountain High Fat free yogurt
And here 100 gram of the Dutch Magere Campina Yogurt ( so Fat free Yogurt)
Eiwit = Protein
Koolhydraten = Carbs
Vet = Fat
Natrium = Salt
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Its not that difficult. There is less protein in it than the US one and less sugar. that is what makes the difference in calories.
Milk is not just milk meat is not just meat
It depends what the cow has eaten in its life
Full fat (blue grass) on hay its whole life or corn.
You get a totally different product
Grass is not the same everywhere the sun hours a day will vary and will decide how much sugar and other nutrition are produced in products
So for field grown vegetables and fruits.0 -
Here another good example
100 gram of Chicken breast filet
So yes both 100 gram first the US
Now the Dutch one same amount but 65 calories LESS!
So were did MacDonalds get there meat from in Holland to make chicken nuggets lol
I know which one i would chose
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HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
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High Fructose Corn Syrup.0
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HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
High Fructose Corn Syrup is subsidized by the government. Sugar and corn is, which means the industry puts it in everything because it's incredibly cheap. It's the government that wants this, and unfortunately us Americans are accustomed to it.
Plus salt, sugar and fat has been proven to be addicting.
I don't agree with it, so I do my part by forgoing anything with HFCS in it. There's no reason that normal sandwich bread needs to be sweetened with sugar. In fact, the books I have on bread baking often use no sugar at all.0 -
realityfades wrote: »
HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
High Fructose Corn Syrup is subsidized by the government. Sugar and corn is, which means the industry puts it in everything because it's incredibly cheap. It's the government that wants this, and unfortunately us Americans are accustomed to it.
Plus salt, sugar and fat has been proven to be addicting.
I don't agree with it, so I do my part by forgoing anything with HFCS in it. There's no reason that normal sandwich bread needs to be sweetened with sugar. In fact, the books I have on bread baking often use no sugar at all.
It has?0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »realityfades wrote: »
HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
High Fructose Corn Syrup is subsidized by the government. Sugar and corn is, which means the industry puts it in everything because it's incredibly cheap. It's the government that wants this, and unfortunately us Americans are accustomed to it.
Plus salt, sugar and fat has been proven to be addicting.
I don't agree with it, so I do my part by forgoing anything with HFCS in it. There's no reason that normal sandwich bread needs to be sweetened with sugar. In fact, the books I have on bread baking often use no sugar at all.
It has?
Yep, it's called food science. http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-cravings-engineered-by-industry-1.13952250 -
HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
HFCS contains sugarS and is produced by the corn / starch industry. Sugar is a crystalline product made by the sugar industry. Not the same thing. Liquid vs solid, etc.
There's a lot of glucose in HFCS as well as the F.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »So were did MacDonalds get there meat from in Holland to make chicken nuggets lol
I know which one i would chose
I would choose the one with a lot more protein and fat, more nutrients. Oops, that's the American one.0 -
realityfades wrote: »
HFCS is sugar isn't it? The f being the important word?
Fructose right?
High Fructose Corn Syrup is subsidized by the government. Sugar and corn is, which means the industry puts it in everything because it's incredibly cheap. It's the government that wants this, and unfortunately us Americans are accustomed to it.
Plus salt, sugar and fat has been proven to be addicting.
I don't agree with it, so I do my part by forgoing anything with HFCS in it. There's no reason that normal sandwich bread needs to be sweetened with sugar. In fact, the books I have on bread baking often use no sugar at all.
So, by your logic, we shouldn't consume items the farmers grow where they receive a subsidy? I wonder how many food items aren't grown with a subsidy? Hmmm....
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What cracks me up is I have to argue with them to give me more than 4 ice cubes. Guys you're saving product if you give me what I want.
Do Aussies really rather a full cup of warm soda?
I don't know what incident prompted this question - but No, Australians do not drink warm soda( soft drink as we call it)
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charlieandcarol wrote: »As a visitor to the US I would say portion size for sure but also I couldn't get over how sweet normal commercially made bread is in the US. It tastes like dessert buns or something. I had to go to a village market and buy some home made sourdough bread in order to not feel like I was having some revolting dessert salad sandwich. So maybe like said above its the HFCS that seems to go into everything?
My Daughter lived in America and she noticed this too - the bread tasted noticeably sweeter than bread in Australia.
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paperpudding wrote: »What cracks me up is I have to argue with them to give me more than 4 ice cubes. Guys you're saving product if you give me what I want.
Do Aussies really rather a full cup of warm soda?
I don't know what incident prompted this question - but No, Australians do not drink warm soda( soft drink as we call it)
I am Australian and I have to ask for more ice every single time I am at a fast food place. And I have seen Aussies return a cup to the counter because there was too much ice and not enough "cool drink" as they call it.0 -
That's interesting kuranda - perhaps you just Like more ice than most people.
I've never had to ask for more ice or known anyone here to drink soft drink warm - some like it with no ice but still cold, but most have ice.
Incidentally I've never known it to be called 'cool drink' either - always soft drink.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »That's interesting kuranda - perhaps you just Like more ice than most people.
I've never had to ask for more ice or known anyone here to drink soft drink warm - some like it with no ice but still cold, but most have ice.
Incidentally I've never known it to be called 'cool drink' either - always soft drink.
Ice dilutes the drink and makes it watery. That's why I opt for a cold drink to start with, and only 2-3 ice cubes maximum if any.0
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