Waist training
Kaylee6349
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I was looking into waist training to aid with weight loss and found lots of mixed reviews. Have any of yours tried it and what did you think?
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Never heard of waist training0
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I didn't try so I can't tell, but only working out and proper nutrition will be more than enough for anything!0
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I think they're just a gimmicky tool that doesn't work.0
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Spot training does not work, it will only help to remove more liquid from your body.0
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Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
Hundreds of abdominal specific exercises are far less effective
Wearing a "waist trainer" may reduce the amount you can eat by compressing your internal organs and making it uncomfortable ..I suppose if you wear it long enough it's a way to achieve a calorie defecit. They may also cause you to lose water weight but drink or eat something and that's gone
Spanx or similar can give you shape for an occasion
Proper corsetting...custom made to size whale boned corsets getting smaller and tighter over years and worn consistently can over time warp the natural body0 -
I wear a waist trainer only while excersising.0
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Don't they squish your insides all up? Wouldn't that be .... kind of bad?0
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Yes, it squeezes your inside organs. Can even impair getting enough oxygen to the lungs (vital function for health). You were kidding, right?0
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Only a calorie deficit can aid in weight loss. A waist trainer (AKA corset) is not a calorie deficit. So... there's your answer.
IMO, I think they look stupid.
This doesn't look attractive... at all. Not to mention the controversy surrounding them about organ damage/squishing/etc.0 -
Thanks for all the advice, I'm definitely not going to get one now!0
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kayleemcpheat wrote: »Thanks for all the advice, I'm definitely not going to get one now!
Yay another one rejects the dark side
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Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
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Corsets in general can be fun to play around with for things like cosplay, dressing up. etc. They DO squish your insides so they should not be worn on a regular basis. After wearing one, most show a very temporary reduction in waist measurement because everything was squished. This goes away as soon as your insides and skin relax back to their normal position (can take a couple of hours). Exercising in them is counter-productive, you can actually weaken your core muscles because the muscles are being supported by an external device, rather than actually having to work.0
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I don't wear one like those girls. Mines mostly for back support. My lower back is shot & have nerve damage from having spinals. Nothing tight or squishing organs!0
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I like corsets and waist cinchers for the bedroom or as occasional shapewear but not for weight loss. Ladies back in the day would also end up with a specific shape after years that would not be considered desirable now. They would have small waists but also soft, pooched out lower bellies with weak muscles.0
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At best waist training has no long term benefit.
At worst, waist training can cause long term harm to your internal organs.
In summary, there is virtually no benefit to waist training and a large risk of harm. It is only practiced by vain, stupid people.0 -
kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.0 -
Its a gimmick. Don't even bother0
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JoshGouvisis wrote: »kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
This really makes no sense and has no science behind it. Why 4 sets? Front squats are a quad dominant exercise, they will help with core to a good extent, but not specifically or really help "trim"... whatever that really means. This might work for you, but won't for everyone.
OP. You can't spot reduce fat. It will come off where it's genetically predisposed to do so. To lower fat in one area, you have to lower fat in all areas.
As far as firming up the muscles underneath, you can do that with any kind of exercise that targets that area. This will not reduce fat in that area specifically, but will strengthen the muscles allowing what is there to be firmer and more eye appealing as you lower your overall body fat.
You can check out Strong Curves by Bret Contreras. He's a trainer well known for helping women achieve the curvy shape they desire through effective lifting methods. http://www.amazon.com/Strong-Curves-Womans-Building-Better/dp/1936608642
Give that a look and see if it'll help.
You can also go to Bodybuilding.com and search through their exercise programs until you find one that you like. Just stay away from the forums or shops... the forums are generally full on nonsense and the shops are a money sink for no reason... but the workouts are great.0 -
JoshGouvisis wrote: »kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
Oddly specific advice is...well...odd
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JoshGouvisis wrote: »kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
Ummm....errrrr.... What the? :bigsmile:
I'm going to to leave the oddly specific front squat advice ...because ...what?
However the "moderate weight for you" line ...really holding my snark back on that one
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Definition comes from lower body fat %. Realize that genetics plays a lot into this and when some try to lose overall body fat, "desired" areas that hold body fat in higher percentages reduce too (breast, butts on females).kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
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WUT?JoshGouvisis wrote: »kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Math is your friend here. If you're 185 and even 20% body fat (148lbs lean mass), to RETAIN your lean mass through a cut (not likely even with PED's) and be 10%, your weight would end up being 164lbs. If you're trying to be 175-185lbs and 10%, you'd need a lean mass of 166lbs which means you'd have to GAIN muscle. And on a deficit, it's unlikely to gain about 20lbs of lean muscle in less than a year.JoshGouvisis wrote: »You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.
Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...
Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.
Not broscience here, just actual physiology and math.
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Math is your friend here. If you're 185 and even 20% body fat (148lbs lean mass), to RETAIN your lean mass through a cut (not likely even with PED's) and be 10%, your weight would end up being 164lbs. If you're trying to be 175-185lbs and 10%, you'd need a lean mass of 166lbs which means you'd have to GAIN muscle. And on a deficit, it's unlikely to gain about 20lbs of lean muscle in less than a year.JoshGouvisis wrote: »You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.
Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...
Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.
Not broscience here, just actual physiology and math.
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That's just my goal. I understand i will come up short. Gaining is no problem. Thanks for the heads up.0 -
JoshGouvisis wrote: »You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.
Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...
Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.
You're guessing at your body fat %? How are you going to know what progress was actually made if you aren't going to get accurate with your measurements? Especially seeing as you have a body fat% goal.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »JoshGouvisis wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »JoshGouvisis wrote: »kayleemcpheat wrote: »Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough
I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?
No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
Oddly specific advice is...well...odd
Says the guy in his workplace bathroom taking a selfie with a pink phone!! LOL!! Dude are you serious haha
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That's Mr. Burns to you sonny.
I'm sorry, @juggernaut1974, here's where my mind went:
Yeah...but look how lean and fit he is.
Clearly he front squats exactly 4 sets and ellipticals on level 12
I don't have an elliptical. Clearly doomed to be fat forever
OP, I'm glad you have maintained an open mind and have decided against this. Calorie deficit to drop any fat. Exercise for body shape. You can do this without any fads.0
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