"Heavy" lifter....body pump kicked my butt!
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I don't see a reason why you can't do both unless you have a particular goal.
I do All Pro MWF, Zumba with light hand weights Tu ( that had a similar effect on me. How hard can it be to wave around 2 lb weights for an hour- my arms thought they were falling off) swim at lunch and do yoga on Sunday.
I don't have a goal to be brilliant in any of them so I don't mind mixing it up to keep me interested.
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1. You didn't do poorly simply because it was hard, you did poorly because you weren't conditioned for challenging cardio. If you do it more often you'll adapt.
2. Unless you saw before pics and all the women in the class lost 100 pounds doing bodypump, the more likely scenario is that the people that choose to do a high energy, challenging cardio class were relatively thin and relatively in shape. I mean, if you went to a slam dunk competition you wouldn't come to the conclusion that playing basketball makes people grow taller.
3. If you enjoy it, do it. I wouldn't cycling in and out of lifting **because bodypump aint lifting** but if you're trying to cut or wish to improve your cardiovascular endurance, adding cardio is a real thing. I HAAAAATE cardio but I do cardio on the regular when it's cutting time or when I'm trying to improve my sports performance.
4. If you have injuries, jumping around in a fast moving class without direct supervision and doing 30 reps of everything may not be the most awesome thing in the world.
this.Whats the dang point in working out if you don't have functional strength, agility, power, endurance, and flexibility? I don't want to be someone who can run 50 miles on a treadmill but can't lift groceries. And vice versa, I don't want to be super strong but can't run to save my life. Even worse I don't want to be either of those things without the ability to even touch my toes.
omfg- stop it.
Your personal goals are your personal goals. who cares if you can touch your toes? I want to be able to squat 300 pounds- if that means I have to give up my ability to touch my toes- FINE. My goal IS to be able to lift things- I don't run- I don't care about running (that's kind of a lie- but it's the truth- I run for training when i need to and I'm surprisingly good at it) but I seriously don't care about it. I like it- but my main goals are lifting.
You do not need to be functional across the board. If that's what kind of life you want- fine- go for it- but it's not every ones' personal goal.
There are people who train to do ultra long distance running- being super strong and squatting 300 pounds won't help them. Cross training is useful for BOTH sides- but the more focused your personal goals are the more likely you will swing away from the other side of cross training.
So STHAP IT WITH THE FUNCTIONAL TRAINING BS.
IT IS NOT BS!!!! When you reach certain age (aka old) function, flexibility and balance will be more important than squatting 300 lbs. Don't worry you get there some day.
Not to go off on a tangent, but a well performed 300lb squat will demonstrate strength, function, flexibility and balance. You don't have to stop being/becoming awesome as you get older you know...
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1. You didn't do poorly simply because it was hard, you did poorly because you weren't conditioned for challenging cardio. If you do it more often you'll adapt.
2. Unless you saw before pics and all the women in the class lost 100 pounds doing bodypump, the more likely scenario is that the people that choose to do a high energy, challenging cardio class were relatively thin and relatively in shape. I mean, if you went to a slam dunk competition you wouldn't come to the conclusion that playing basketball makes people grow taller.
3. If you enjoy it, do it. I wouldn't cycling in and out of lifting **because bodypump aint lifting** but if you're trying to cut or wish to improve your cardiovascular endurance, adding cardio is a real thing. I HAAAAATE cardio but I do cardio on the regular when it's cutting time or when I'm trying to improve my sports performance.
4. If you have injuries, jumping around in a fast moving class without direct supervision and doing 30 reps of everything may not be the most awesome thing in the world.
this.Whats the dang point in working out if you don't have functional strength, agility, power, endurance, and flexibility? I don't want to be someone who can run 50 miles on a treadmill but can't lift groceries. And vice versa, I don't want to be super strong but can't run to save my life. Even worse I don't want to be either of those things without the ability to even touch my toes.
omfg- stop it.
Your personal goals are your personal goals. who cares if you can touch your toes? I want to be able to squat 300 pounds- if that means I have to give up my ability to touch my toes- FINE. My goal IS to be able to lift things- I don't run- I don't care about running (that's kind of a lie- but it's the truth- I run for training when i need to and I'm surprisingly good at it) but I seriously don't care about it. I like it- but my main goals are lifting.
You do not need to be functional across the board. If that's what kind of life you want- fine- go for it- but it's not every ones' personal goal.
There are people who train to do ultra long distance running- being super strong and squatting 300 pounds won't help them. Cross training is useful for BOTH sides- but the more focused your personal goals are the more likely you will swing away from the other side of cross training.
So STHAP IT WITH THE FUNCTIONAL TRAINING BS.
IT IS NOT BS!!!! When you reach certain age (aka old) function, flexibility and balance will be more important than squatting 300 lbs. Don't worry you get there some day.
Oh. Has the OP reached that certain age? Has every client that has enlisted the help of the person that Jo responded to also reached that certain age? Is there some reason you believe people can't choose for themselves what's most important to them, and at what time in their lives? Instead of spending my teens training to improve my performance on the field should I have spent that time preparing for the stage of my life when I'd need a walker or cane?0 -
chrysalis2015 wrote: »Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting?
NO! You should find something you like (or don't dislike) enough to do it consistently for a minimum of 6 months. You're already overweight and out of shape, so ANY workout you do -- along with fixing your food intake -- is going to vastly benefit you.
Stop looking for the perfect workout. Stop looking at how all the other women look. Find something you like, do it, cut out the calories, and you'll see great results. After 6 months of consistency, you can reevaluate and maybe decide that you'd rather do something else.
Finally, everyone struggles with Body Pump for the first few weeks/months. Like pretty much everything else in fitness, if it's not a struggle, it's not worth doing.
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I don't know if anyone has said this as I don't feel like reading through the whole thread. You are comparing apples and oranges. Body pump is basically intense cardio with weights, that is, an aerobic activity. Heavy lifting is not aerobic in any way, it is anaerobic using completely different energy paths. To compare the two is like asking a sprinter to run a marathon. It doesn't work that way. Heavy lifting is a great way to maintain muscle while losing weight. Cardio exercises like body pump are great for building endurance and aerobic capacity. Both have their place, your goals dictate how much you do of each. Personally I would suggest use of a least some of both for overall health.0
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The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
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1. You didn't do poorly simply because it was hard, you did poorly because you weren't conditioned for challenging cardio. If you do it more often you'll adapt.
2. Unless you saw before pics and all the women in the class lost 100 pounds doing bodypump, the more likely scenario is that the people that choose to do a high energy, challenging cardio class were relatively thin and relatively in shape. I mean, if you went to a slam dunk competition you wouldn't come to the conclusion that playing basketball makes people grow taller.
3. If you enjoy it, do it. I wouldn't cycling in and out of lifting **because bodypump aint lifting** but if you're trying to cut or wish to improve your cardiovascular endurance, adding cardio is a real thing. I HAAAAATE cardio but I do cardio on the regular when it's cutting time or when I'm trying to improve my sports performance.
4. If you have injuries, jumping around in a fast moving class without direct supervision and doing 30 reps of everything may not be the most awesome thing in the world.
this.Whats the dang point in working out if you don't have functional strength, agility, power, endurance, and flexibility? I don't want to be someone who can run 50 miles on a treadmill but can't lift groceries. And vice versa, I don't want to be super strong but can't run to save my life. Even worse I don't want to be either of those things without the ability to even touch my toes.
omfg- stop it.
Your personal goals are your personal goals. who cares if you can touch your toes? I want to be able to squat 300 pounds- if that means I have to give up my ability to touch my toes- FINE. My goal IS to be able to lift things- I don't run- I don't care about running (that's kind of a lie- but it's the truth- I run for training when i need to and I'm surprisingly good at it) but I seriously don't care about it. I like it- but my main goals are lifting.
You do not need to be functional across the board. If that's what kind of life you want- fine- go for it- but it's not every ones' personal goal.
There are people who train to do ultra long distance running- being super strong and squatting 300 pounds won't help them. Cross training is useful for BOTH sides- but the more focused your personal goals are the more likely you will swing away from the other side of cross training.
So STHAP IT WITH THE FUNCTIONAL TRAINING BS.
IT IS NOT BS!!!! When you reach certain age (aka old) function, flexibility and balance will be more important than squatting 300 lbs. Don't worry you get there some day.
Not to go off on a tangent, but a well performed 300lb squat will demonstrate strength, function, flexibility and balance. You don't have to stop being/becoming awesome as you get older you know...
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rainbowbow wrote: »The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
If that's what you took from this......okay0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
If that's what you took from this......okay
Please enlighten me, what specifically is the intended take away here?0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
you kind of implied that if one lifted heavy and left off cardio that your routine was not balanced, and should be..
Nothing got rustled, people are just questioning the reasoning behind your post.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
you kind of implied that if one lifted heavy and left off cardio that your routine was not balanced, and should be..
Nothing got rustled, people are just questioning the reasoning behind your post.
I said "to me" "in my training" "I wanted" along with my specific goals, such as being able to lift, balance, be flexible, etc.
I then went on to say that one style of training is not for everyone and your routine should be tailored to the individual and their goals. I gave the OP my individual goals along with what I'd do in their situation.
What's the issue here? Maybe I'm just a complete idiot since I cannot even begin to fathom how my suggestion was somehow inflammatory.0 -
I have rotator cuff problems, knee problems, all kinds of MSK problems - will pass on my physiotherapist's advice for free - 8-12 reps > high reps. Bodyweight is ok, but once you're up to 2x20 - that's in a rehab situation, and that's a slow and careful 20, focusing really hard on form, it's time to bump up the weight. Risk of overuse is too high if you have a known tendency to overuse injuries. High reps for speed in a class where you're feeling pressure to keep up with people at a different fitness level, and it's easy to ignore your body's signals, is something I would definitely avoid, in an unconditioned state with a history of injury.0
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rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »The amount of jimmies rustled just because I suggested the OP stretch, foam roll, work their way up strength wise, and incorporate multiple styles of training in their routine is... well, kind of ridiculous.
But do whatever you want to do, hence my initial disclaimer.
you kind of implied that if one lifted heavy and left off cardio that your routine was not balanced, and should be..
Nothing got rustled, people are just questioning the reasoning behind your post.
I said "to me" "in my training" "I wanted" along with my specific goals, such as being able to lift, balance, be flexible, etc.
I then went on to say that one style of training is not for everyone and your routine should be tailored to the individual and their goals. I gave the OP my individual goals along with what I'd do in their situation.
What's the issue here? Maybe I'm just a complete idiot since I cannot even begin to fathom how my suggestion was somehow inflammatory.
it is not inflammatory, some are just questioning the reasoning behind what you said. I thought the forums were about debate and discussion? I don't understand why some get bent out of shape when they post in a public forum and people question what is being said. I think you are reading too much into it.
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I'm gonna throw this out there; it isn't a good idea to base your personal goals on what the other people in the class look like. The women at my gym in the body pump class range from overweight to "skinny fat" with virtually no one in between. You really have no idea what the women in your class do the rest of the week, outside of the gym, or how they eat.
If you like the class, do it once a week and consider it cardio. If you want to lose fat, there are different paths to take. You can tailor your diet, lifting, and cardio to meet your goals. You don't have to give up heavy lifting if you like it; trying to lose fat through heavy lifting alone would be a slow process.0 -
chrysalis2015 wrote: »To clarify a few things...I like free weights and machines because I can keep a certain range of motion to avoid exacerbating old injuries. Whereas in an aerobic setting there seems to be more drastic directional changes. Probably why my knee got insanely swollen after Zumba but I have no problem doing leg presses at 350 lbs, for example.
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chrysalis2015 wrote: »So I took a body pump class last night...lower weights higher reps. Really high. I thought I'd do so great after all the heavy lifting....WRONG! Knee injury and old rotator cuff tears aside, I still couldn't do a push up, my shoulder gave out on triceps dips, and I felt like jelly. Every single woman in there was in fantastic, fit/thin shape. Every one. I was the only overweight person there.
Have I been doing the wrong thing? These are the cardio/HIIT/"little weights" women...not the "lift heavy it'll work better" group...I am sooooo confused.
Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting? Are some people not cut out for heavy lifting? I've seen improvements, but I really want to look like those women.
Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Are you doing any cardio at all? Are you eating less than you burn? If the goal is to look thinner, lifting alone will not help, you can be both overweight and strong. If the disappointment comes from not being able to keep up with the class, then you should work more on endurance?0 -
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GuitarJerry wrote: »chrysalis2015 wrote: »So I took a body pump class last night...lower weights higher reps. Really high. I thought I'd do so great after all the heavy lifting....WRONG! Knee injury and old rotator cuff tears aside, I still couldn't do a push up, my shoulder gave out on triceps dips, and I felt like jelly. Every single woman in there was in fantastic, fit/thin shape. Every one. I was the only overweight person there.
Have I been doing the wrong thing? These are the cardio/HIIT/"little weights" women...not the "lift heavy it'll work better" group...I am sooooo confused.
Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting? Are some people not cut out for heavy lifting? I've seen improvements, but I really want to look like those women.
Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
So, I've had an epiphany recently. I can pull 400 from the floor, but swing a 35 lb kettle bell 20 times and I'm so out of breath that I can't even speak. Or, I can't sprint up 3 flights of stairs 10 times without almost having a heart attack. I can't finish an insanity workout. Not even close. The warm up kills me. So, what good is lifting 400 off the floor one time if I'm not functional?
So, I've made a change in my programming. Might be temporary, but I'm lifting 2 days/week. Mon I do squat and bench, and a couple of assistance exercises, and Thursday deadlift and OHP, also with assistance exercises. The other 5 days I'm moving. I change it up. Today I did kettle bells, tomorrow I may do insanity or hill sprints. I keep it fresh and challenging. My new goal is to be athletic and be able to get through an insanity workout and kill it on stair runs. Lifting is one thing, but being strong and athletic is another.
Anyways, we'll see how my little experiment pans out.
In what situation is sprinting up 30 flights of stairs or swinging around a heavy weight functional? However being able to easily lift 400 pounds off the floor is extremely functional if you ever have to move stuff.0 -
IT IS NOT BS!!!! When you reach certain age (aka old) function, flexibility and balance will be more important than squatting 300 lbs. Don't worry you get there some day.[/quote]
I hurt my hamstring and started taking a body pump class to strengthen my legs. I like to run and it was while running that I hurt my hamstring. After a month of classes, I can do 3 mile runs again. I also have a shoulder problem. The low weights and high reps have been good for my shoulder. I can lift heavy weights, but when I throw a 5 pound weight around in the body pump class, it burns out my shoulder. I have weakness and limited range of motion in my right shoulder. I am tired of having good days and bad days in the gym, I want to fix my shoulder. At my age, I consider fixing my shoulder a much bigger challenge then getting stronger. I will also be in a better position physically to get stronger when my shoulder is fixed. The body pump classes are great for the things I need.0 -
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GuitarJerry wrote: »chrysalis2015 wrote: »So I took a body pump class last night...lower weights higher reps. Really high. I thought I'd do so great after all the heavy lifting....WRONG! Knee injury and old rotator cuff tears aside, I still couldn't do a push up, my shoulder gave out on triceps dips, and I felt like jelly. Every single woman in there was in fantastic, fit/thin shape. Every one. I was the only overweight person there.
Have I been doing the wrong thing? These are the cardio/HIIT/"little weights" women...not the "lift heavy it'll work better" group...I am sooooo confused.
Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting? Are some people not cut out for heavy lifting? I've seen improvements, but I really want to look like those women.
Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
So, I've had an epiphany recently. I can pull 400 from the floor, but swing a 35 lb kettle bell 20 times and I'm so out of breath that I can't even speak. Or, I can't sprint up 3 flights of stairs 10 times without almost having a heart attack. I can't finish an insanity workout. Not even close. The warm up kills me. So, what good is lifting 400 off the floor one time if I'm not functional?
So, I've made a change in my programming. Might be temporary, but I'm lifting 2 days/week. Mon I do squat and bench, and a couple of assistance exercises, and Thursday deadlift and OHP, also with assistance exercises. The other 5 days I'm moving. I change it up. Today I did kettle bells, tomorrow I may do insanity or hill sprints. I keep it fresh and challenging. My new goal is to be athletic and be able to get through an insanity workout and kill it on stair runs. Lifting is one thing, but being strong and athletic is another.
Anyways, we'll see how my little experiment pans out.
the reality is we trade one for the other. I huff and puff when I WALK up the 3 fights of stairs at work. And I'm in pretty good shape- every day I walk those stairs. I stopped running- but I spend upwards of 15 hrs a week dancing- in class- if you include my gig and personal practice time that another 1-5 hrs a week at least.
There is nothing WRONG with not being able to do all the things well. KB swings always make me out of breath- but I don't train them other than for a warm up. And do I feel bad about it? HELL NO. because it's not a priority.
People- (moving away from Jerry here)- get really antsy and pejorative to others if the standard is "can or cannot" do something.
and my very clear answer is "So what"
do I expect you all to know what Alt Chasse's db L FT Relve with Alt Int Hip Circles beg CCW db B is?
well why not- it's the sign of a functional dancer!!!! SHAME ON YOU FOR NOT KNOWING!!!
see how ridiculous that is and how stupid it sounds? Comparing how well someone can cardio when they are a lifter is just as ridiculous.0 -
for what it's worth- I have been exclusively running some variation of power lifting for almost 3 years now...
I would be completely destroyed in a body pump class- and I know it. And I don't feel like I'm less of an athlete for it either.0 -
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In what situation is sprinting up 30 flights of stairs or swinging around a heavy weight functional? However being able to easily lift 400 pounds off the floor is extremely functional if you ever have to move stuff.
A fire in a highrise building (work or home), moving someone out of a dangerous situation (child in the road with oncoming cars...)a whole host of other emergency situations
To the OP, don't worry too much about your performance in that class. As someone else mentioned, that class is more cardio, which has it's own purpose. If you enjoyed the class, keep going. ANY excercise that gets the heart pumping and blood moving is a good thing. Do as much as you can safely (weights & cardio) and you will reach your goal. Perseverance will get you there.
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chrysalis2015 wrote: »So I took a body pump class last night...lower weights higher reps. Really high. I thought I'd do so great after all the heavy lifting....WRONG! Knee injury and old rotator cuff tears aside, I still couldn't do a push up, my shoulder gave out on triceps dips, and I felt like jelly. Every single woman in there was in fantastic, fit/thin shape. Every one. I was the only overweight person there.
Have I been doing the wrong thing? These are the cardio/HIIT/"little weights" women...not the "lift heavy it'll work better" group...I am sooooo confused.
Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting? Are some people not cut out for heavy lifting? I've seen improvements, but I really want to look like those women.
Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Are you doing any cardio at all? Are you eating less than you burn? If the goal is to look thinner, lifting alone will not help, you can be both overweight and strong. If the disappointment comes from not being able to keep up with the class, then you should work more on endurance?
I do some cardio and while my diet isn't perfect I do tend to stay below my calories. I'm tweaking that, though, because I do feel like MFP is overestimating how much I'm burning while working out, but on the days I'm too strict I don't feel particularly good. Like I said I've lost some weight, have quite a bit more to go...the disappointment was about not being able to keep up with the class in the strength/rep department -- didn't really feel my heart rate spike a ton to be honest -- and then of course seeing a room full of really fit women who I do see around the gym doing lighter weight/higher rep usually, or see them when I pass by the studio and they're doing their aerobics classes. You guys are right that I don't know what they do normally or what they've done to get there...other than assuming it was plenty of work no matter what.
My gym is still pretty frowny when it comes to women lifting "heavy" and I actually still haven't been able to get a trainer to help me with that.
As for my knee/joints, I have seen docs for my issues throughout the years. I will eventually need a knee arthroscopy to clean up some small fragments in there but the doctor would like me at a healthier weight since it's not anything dire. In the meantime his advice was to ice/take NSAIDs as needed if the knee got swollen, elevate, and use my home TENS unit. Which I do when it happens.
You're right, though, and I like the mental comparison of marathon vs sprinting being different types of running. That does make me feel better
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GuitarJerry wrote: »for what it's worth- I have been exclusively running some variation of power lifting for almost 3 years now...
I would be completely destroyed in a body pump class- and I know it. And I don't feel like I'm less of an athlete for it either.
You can pull weight off the floor, but can you do pull ups? That's my point. A lot of people are imbalanced. They think they are strong, but they really aren't. They have trained to pull from the floor, but they can't pull their own body weight up.
It's completely fine. I was just helping the OP with a different POV. MFP is pretty thick on lifting heavy and leaving out a lot of other considerations. And if you challenge the status quo of heavy lifting, you get lambasted. It's silly. If I want to dance and do yoga, then that's what I'm going to do. No one has to lift heavy and no one has to do body blast. But, for many of us, we get so ingrained in a mindset that we lose sight of our own personal goal. Mine has always been to be athletic and strong. Somewhere I got lost in powerlifting. But, noticed that I can't do stuff I feel like a strong person should be able to do. My goal isn't yours, I'm just addressing the OP and providing perspective.
You can do pull ups, but can you do a human flag?
You can do brain surgery, but can you play an instrument perfectly?
You can play football better than anyone else in the world, but can you see why children love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?
It's two very different things, why the need to compare or to consider someone "not strong" because he can't do one of them?0 -
BodyPump offers excellent resistance training, but I wouldn't do it just because you feel you have to. Your heavy lifting program is great, and you should only mix things in if you want to. Variety for me does keep the exercise routine interesting, but I don't believe in the whole notion that you have to switch things up all the time just to see results
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OP, there is muscle endurance outside of the cardiovascular type of endurance fitness. It's about the different kinds of muscle fibers as far as I know (which isn't a whole lot
). So yes, your muscles could fatigue because of lifting the weight that many times, even if you lift heavy. I bet they felt too heavy, which does seem weird, eh?! But that's still endurance.
My legs give out before my breathing, etc, in the sprints I do. That won't be endurance fibers, obviously, but I know what you mean about feeling the muscles fatiguing first.0 -
GuitarJerry wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »GuitarJerry wrote: »chrysalis2015 wrote: »So I took a body pump class last night...lower weights higher reps. Really high. I thought I'd do so great after all the heavy lifting....WRONG! Knee injury and old rotator cuff tears aside, I still couldn't do a push up, my shoulder gave out on triceps dips, and I felt like jelly. Every single woman in there was in fantastic, fit/thin shape. Every one. I was the only overweight person there.
Have I been doing the wrong thing? These are the cardio/HIIT/"little weights" women...not the "lift heavy it'll work better" group...I am sooooo confused.
Should I just cycle in and out of heavy lifting? Are some people not cut out for heavy lifting? I've seen improvements, but I really want to look like those women.
Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
So, I've had an epiphany recently. I can pull 400 from the floor, but swing a 35 lb kettle bell 20 times and I'm so out of breath that I can't even speak. Or, I can't sprint up 3 flights of stairs 10 times without almost having a heart attack. I can't finish an insanity workout. Not even close. The warm up kills me. So, what good is lifting 400 off the floor one time if I'm not functional?
So, I've made a change in my programming. Might be temporary, but I'm lifting 2 days/week. Mon I do squat and bench, and a couple of assistance exercises, and Thursday deadlift and OHP, also with assistance exercises. The other 5 days I'm moving. I change it up. Today I did kettle bells, tomorrow I may do insanity or hill sprints. I keep it fresh and challenging. My new goal is to be athletic and be able to get through an insanity workout and kill it on stair runs. Lifting is one thing, but being strong and athletic is another.
Anyways, we'll see how my little experiment pans out.
In what situation is sprinting up 30 flights of stairs or swinging around a heavy weight functional? However being able to easily lift 400 pounds off the floor is extremely functional if you ever have to move stuff.
Well, being able to carry a keg of beer up a flight of stairs is functional. What I am saying is deadlifting or squatting a lot of weight is one thing, but that's only one aspect of being fit. If you can't do 20 pull ups, I'd say you aren't strong. Functional fitness hits all aspects. I'm addressing the ability of lifting something heavy once, versus lifting something light many times. When I bought my house, the ability to lift light thing many times was far more important and functional. Laying brick, building new walls, etc required both strength, in terms of heavy lifting at times, but also endurance strength, being able to lift hundreds of bricks one at a time, all day long. Heavy lifting has its place and is important. But there's more to fitness than that for me.
One could go their whole life doing one rep of the heavy weight, and be happy, healthy, functional and enjoy life. I'm just saying that for me, I also want to be able to hill sprint without dying. I want to be able to leap flights of stairs effortlessly. It's a different kind of training for that, more athletic.
As I said, I'm still lifting heavy, just doing it less frequently and incorporating a lot of moving type exercises.
It's an experiment. I think in the end, it will make me stronger overall. I should mention that I am 50 and am having mobility issues. So, this is my way of trying to resolve that. Again, no need to get defensive. I'm just trying something. I never said heavy lifting wasn't functional, although I do question the function of squats in real life. Deadlifts are functional, bench press can be, OHP can be, squats are not functional. There is almost no situation where you will load 300 lbs on your back and squat and lift back up again. The closest thing to real life, IMO, are zercher squats. I could see that happening.
I stopped reading at <20 pull-ups not being strong.0
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