Weight loss has stopped
kianrashidi123
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So i was on a 1600 calorie keto diet for 6 weeks or so and i dropped about 7 pounds. As i was tired of being in keto, i decided to switch things up and change to a moderate carbs diet. I also boosted up my calories to 1850 calories per week. Its been about 3 weeks that i have been on exactly 154 pounds and weight hasnt changed. I want to lose more weight but im afraid that my metabolism would get worse than it already is... Please help me out!
Im a 5.9 feet male and 154 pounds. Also do cardio 3-4 times a week with 4 days of weight lifting
Thanks
Im a 5.9 feet male and 154 pounds. Also do cardio 3-4 times a week with 4 days of weight lifting
Thanks
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If you we're losing at 1600 cals and are stalled at 1850, 1850 could be your maintenance.
What is the calorie goal MFP gave you, how much are you trying to lose a week, and how much are you looking at losing in total?
Do you weigh your food with a digital scale, liquids with cups and spoons for liquids? If not you should. It really helps in your consumption accuracy.
Part of your stall is probably due to your increase in carbs, it is water weight and could be stopping you seeing a fat loss.
MFP is set up to give you a loss without exercise. It is highly recommended that you eat back 50-75% of your exercise calories. If one is exercising one needs the extra fuel to perform well and still perform normal everyday activities without being grumpy and tired.
With your weight and height you should probably aim for .5-1 lb a week loss.
If your diary isn't open, you may want to open it. It will help people give you advice.
Cheers, h.0 -
3 weeks really isn't enough to declare weight loss has stopped. Especially when you just did something like going from low carb to moderate carb, which will cause water weight gain.0
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3 weeks really isn't enough to declare weight loss has stopped. Especially when you just did something like going from low carb to moderate carb, which will cause water weight gain.
Yup
Keep going
Also ensure accurate logging of food ...do you weigh your food? Do you eat back exercise?0 -
You went from keto to introducing some carbs - that will affect your weight by several pounds as the glycogen stores replenish with the carbs - its not real gain though and for a guy you're not eating that much - You should be able to lose eating around 1800-2000 if not more!
Its too soon to say though in general if you weight has really stalled, give it another few weeks and you'll find things will settle and the scale will move downwards.
Don't be eating any less for goodness sake, you want your body getting used to more calories and burning more.
I'm 5ft 2/woman and lose eating 1900 calories (if I wanted to lose that is- maintenance is 2100-2300), so keep up the good work, you will get the results you're after
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »You went from keto to introducing some carbs - that will affect your weight by several pounds as the glycogen stores replenish with the carbs - its not real gain though and for a guy you're not eating that much - You should be able to lose eating around 1800-2000 if not more!
Its too soon to say though in general if you weight has really stalled, give it another few weeks and you'll find things will settle and the scale will move downwards.
Don't be eating any less for goodness sake, you want your body getting used to more calories and burning more.
I'm 5ft 2/woman and lose eating 1900 calories (if I wanted to lose that is- maintenance is 2100-2300), so keep up the good work, you will get the results you're after
I guess i will have to wait few more weeks to see what happens! Thanks a lot
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middlehaitch wrote: »If you we're losing at 1600 cals and are stalled at 1850, 1850 could be your maintenance.
What is the calorie goal MFP gave you, how much are you trying to lose a week, and how much are you looking at losing in total?
Do you weigh your food with a digital scale, liquids with cups and spoons for liquids? If not you should. It really helps in your consumption accuracy.
Part of your stall is probably due to your increase in carbs, it is water weight and could be stopping you seeing a fat loss.
MFP is set up to give you a loss without exercise. It is highly recommended that you eat back 50-75% of your exercise calories. If one is exercising one needs the extra fuel to perform well and still perform normal everyday activities without being grumpy and tired.
With your weight and height you should probably aim for .5-1 lb a week loss.
If your diary isn't open, you may want to open it. It will help people give you advice.
Cheers, h.
I just opened it. Feel free to have a look
Thanks anyways
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kianrashidi123 wrote: »I just opened it. Feel free to have a look
Thanks anyways
Not showing as open on this end.
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kianrashidi123 wrote: »So i was on a 1600 calorie keto diet for 6 weeks or so and i dropped about 7 pounds. As i was tired of being in keto, i decided to switch things up and change to a moderate carbs diet. I also boosted up my calories to 1850 calories per week. Its been about 3 weeks that i have been on exactly 154 pounds and weight hasnt changed. I want to lose more weight but im afraid that my metabolism would get worse than it already is... Please help me out!
Im a 5.9 feet male and 154 pounds. Also do cardio 3-4 times a week with 4 days of weight lifting
Thanks
What are your goals exactly? I'm guessing you're trying to cut right now but you lift for muscle retention as you lose weight? If so, then you need to wait more than three weeks. As others have said, switching back to a normal diet from keto will cause you to retain water for a while, but things will even out. Also, if you open your diary, we can get a better look at the accuracy of your intake. I can't imagine you not losing on 1850 calories being a 19 year old male at 5'9" and 154 pounds. I'm a 30 year old woman, 5'3", 116 pounds and I still lose weight on 2000 calories. Something doesn't add up.0 -
Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
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Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
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So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
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So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
In almost all cases of this on MFP, it comes down to under reporting calorie intake or over reporting calorie burns. I've personally never seen a person claim they couldn't lose weight, but had an accurate food diary, and then have that claim turn out to be true.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
In almost all cases of this on MFP, it comes down to under reporting calorie intake or over reporting calorie burns. I've personally never seen a person claim they couldn't lose weight, but had an accurate food diary, and then have that claim turn out to be true.
I was gong to say the same. The comment made assumes that you are logging everything with spot-on accuracy, which in many cases is not correct at all. I could use my own experience to negate almost any comment made by someone, but that doesn't make me accurate or them wrong. It just means that something in my personal process is off/wrong/different. It took me a long time, personally, before I got my logging to be tight and it made an incredible difference in the end result of my goals.
Also, @ninerbuff gives good, well thought out advice, has his certifications openly displayed in his signature, and is a moderator. He knows what he's talking about.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.0 -
Have u been checked by a doctor for thyroid issues? If u really cant lose weight and are logging accurately might be time for a doctors appointment.0
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CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.
Done. Didn't log Christmas or much Christmas Eve. Didn't go bonkers with sweets or anything. I've been doing this a while. I know how to make decent choices. Yes I did eat only 900ish calories the day after the holidays as a sort of balance. The last day I didn't log well before that was Thanksgiving. Same deal. Not shoveling food in my mouth. Just a mental health break from the OCD logging and plain jane foods I usually eat. A lot of my diet is repetition to the extreme.0 -
Weight wise, I re-started my program in earnest November 2nd at 240. this morning I was 231 (232.something trend). That's about 8 weeks and about a pound a week.0
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CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.
Done. Didn't log Christmas or much Christmas Eve. Didn't go bonkers with sweets or anything. I've been doing this a while. I know how to make decent choices. Yes I did eat only 900ish calories the day after the holidays as a sort of balance. The last day I didn't log well before that was Thanksgiving. Same deal. Not shoveling food in my mouth. Just a mental health break from the OCD logging and plain jane foods I usually eat. A lot of my diet is repetition to the extreme.
And immediately we see '1 cup, 1 cup, 0.5 cup, 6 franks'.
These are not accurate measurements at all.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.
Done. Didn't log Christmas or much Christmas Eve. Didn't go bonkers with sweets or anything. I've been doing this a while. I know how to make decent choices. Yes I did eat only 900ish calories the day after the holidays as a sort of balance. The last day I didn't log well before that was Thanksgiving. Same deal. Not shoveling food in my mouth. Just a mental health break from the OCD logging and plain jane foods I usually eat. A lot of my diet is repetition to the extreme.
And immediately we see '1 cup, 1 cup, 0.5 cup, 6 franks'.
These are not accurate measurements at all.
1 cup of cottage cheese which weights 234 grams. Which I measure. And seriously, you want me to measure the hot dogs I'm going to have tonight? Let's say they each weigh 5 grams more than they say. Or half of them do. The others are probably 5 grams less. What is the actual calorie difference there? Not that I even eat hot dogs that often. You'll notice a lot of chicken and cod. Should I do the same for my Oikos yogurt? Is it a big deal that it might be 123.2656 calories instead of 120?0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.
Done. Didn't log Christmas or much Christmas Eve. Didn't go bonkers with sweets or anything. I've been doing this a while. I know how to make decent choices. Yes I did eat only 900ish calories the day after the holidays as a sort of balance. The last day I didn't log well before that was Thanksgiving. Same deal. Not shoveling food in my mouth. Just a mental health break from the OCD logging and plain jane foods I usually eat. A lot of my diet is repetition to the extreme.
And immediately we see '1 cup, 1 cup, 0.5 cup, 6 franks'.
These are not accurate measurements at all.
1 cup of cottage cheese which weights 234 grams. Which I measure. An seriously, you want me to measure the hot dogs I'm going to have tonight? Let's say they each weigh 5 grams more than they say. Or half of them do. The others are probably 5 grams less. What is the actual calorie difference there? Seriously. Should I do the same for my Oikos yogurt? Is it a big deal that it might be 123.2656 calories instead of 120?
All the tiny differences add up. If you want to make claims against things based on accuracy, you can't go around saying 'I cant be bothered to be that accurate'0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
Then open up your diary and back up your claim.
Done. Didn't log Christmas or much Christmas Eve. Didn't go bonkers with sweets or anything. I've been doing this a while. I know how to make decent choices. Yes I did eat only 900ish calories the day after the holidays as a sort of balance. The last day I didn't log well before that was Thanksgiving. Same deal. Not shoveling food in my mouth. Just a mental health break from the OCD logging and plain jane foods I usually eat. A lot of my diet is repetition to the extreme.
And immediately we see '1 cup, 1 cup, 0.5 cup, 6 franks'.
These are not accurate measurements at all.
1 cup of cottage cheese which weights 234 grams. Which I measure. An seriously, you want me to measure the hot dogs I'm going to have tonight? Let's say they each weigh 5 grams more than they say. Or half of them do. The others are probably 5 grams less. What is the actual calorie difference there? Seriously. Should I do the same for my Oikos yogurt? Is it a big deal that it might be 123.2656 calories instead of 120?
All the tiny differences add up. If you want to make claims against things based on accuracy, you can't go around saying 'I cant be bothered to be that accurate'
So me not weighing my hot dogs tonight or my yogurt earlier (calm down, I'm going to weigh the chili) is going to account for the 200 calorie difference between what my TDEE is supposed to be and what it really is based off my eating? You're saying that because I don't weigh my yogurt, which I don't even eat daily, that's where the error is?0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.0 -
No, I am saying that your diary has many of these types of entry. And that the accumulation of many small errors over time eventually results in a large error. How you log is up to you, everyone gets to decide what shortcuts they take. But as the weight comes off, and the margin for error gets smaller and smaller, it pays to be accurate. You made the claim that you were accurate and disputed another users post. I merely pointed out that you literally do not have the accuracy required to make such a claim.
Besides, TDEE's from calculators are estimates with an accuracy range, you'll note the poster you disputed gave a 250 calorie range as it is.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
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So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.
Wouldn't the losses be consistent though? Since the water is already there and I'm holding it. If you lose fat you lose fat. It's not like water rushes in to take it's place randomly.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.
Wouldn't the losses be consistent though? Since the water is already there and I'm holding it. If you lose fat you lose fat. It's not like water rushes in to take it's place randomly.
Nope, especially since on some days of your diary your sodium level decreases. You said you've only gotten back into the swing of things in November. At first your sodium levels were only somewhat higher and now they're consistently in the 6000 to 7000mg range. Also, I posted that before seeing your exchange with @ultrahoon. Yes, those little inaccuracies can, and do, add up.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.
Wouldn't the losses be consistent though? Since the water is already there and I'm holding it. If you lose fat you lose fat. It's not like water rushes in to take it's place randomly.
Actually, that is one of the theories. The 'whoosh effect' theory. I'm not sure how heavily I believe in it, but it is a theory with a growing amount of research. The TLDR is that the fat cells have no idea if they will needed again soon (since your body is constantly storing and burning fat, regardless of deficit or surplus), so they take on water, then once they 'see' they aren't being used for some time, they shed.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.
Wouldn't the losses be consistent though? Since the water is already there and I'm holding it. If you lose fat you lose fat. It's not like water rushes in to take it's place randomly.
Nope, especially since on some days of your diary your sodium level decreases. You said you've only gotten back into the swing of things in November. At first your sodium levels were only somewhat higher and now they're consistently in the 6000 to 7000mg range. Also, I posted that before seeing your exchange with @ultrahoon. Yes, those little inaccuracies can, and do, add up.
Those little things CAN add up if there are a lot of them. I'm asserting that there aren't enough of them in my day to account for the TDEE discrepancy. Even if all 6 hot dogs (OK this sounds bad but really, IIFYM right?) are 10 calories over and my yogurt was 10 calories over that's 70 calories. Where's the other 130? Oh yeah, and that would have to be DAILY. I don't eat yogurt daily even. My cottage cheese I weigh, and usually dinner is cod, salmon, or chicken. Weighed. Veggies. Yup, weighed.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »Dude your BMR is at least 1750. Add in activity (unless you just lie around a couch all day) and your exercise based on your age, you're more than likely closer to 2500-2700 TDEE minimum. So you're basically eating 1000 calories deficit a day. Why?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
So if he is eating at a 1000 calorie deficit then why did his weight loss stop? I weigh 80lbs more than this guy and I eat 1700 calories to barely lose a pound a week. Maybe people don't always fit into these calculated numbers people toss around constantly.
Ask yourself the following questions:- Do you exercise at all? The OP does cardio 3 to 4 days per week and weightlifting 4 days per week.
- If you do exercise, do you otherwise lead a sedentary life? Desk job, drive a car all day, etc.
- Is your food diary truly accurate? Do you weigh all of your food with a food scale, verify that you're using the right entries, etc.?
The amount of weight loss you see per week depends heavily on the answers to these questions. Also, are you 5'9" like OP? Your height affects your BMR. Keep in mind that you not only weigh 80 pounds more than OP but you're almost double his age which also plays a factor in your BMR vs his.
5'11"
1. I lift weights 3-4 days a week. No cardio beyond bike rides for recreation when weather permits.
2. Desk job
3. I weigh and measure. I'm eating single item foods (that is, generally nothing like lasagne that has several ingredients) and meals that consist of 3-4 items tops. To get any more accurate, that is eliminate all room for error with simplicity, I'd have to switch to a prepared liquid only diet like Soylent. I've considered it.
Every single calculator I can find says even being sedentary my TDEE should be 2400. So 1900 a day should get me a pound a week. But it doesn't. Bottom line.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that even your one cup, 6 franks, etc entries are weighed on a food scale as you claim. I weigh everything and if the serving size says 2 eggs and I'm under the serving size in grams, I just keep it at 2 eggs or if I can't find something in grams in the database at times and I'm not in a place where I can make my own entry and I know a serving is 45 grams but mine is 47, I'll do 47/45 and round up the decimal and enter it like that. So let's assume you do the same. I know one other reason you may only be seeing a little less than a pound per week of weight loss; your sodium intake is INSANE. You probably retain a lot of water week to week and never let it go because you consistently have a sodium intake that is through the roof.
Wouldn't the losses be consistent though? Since the water is already there and I'm holding it. If you lose fat you lose fat. It's not like water rushes in to take it's place randomly.
Nope, especially since on some days of your diary your sodium level decreases. You said you've only gotten back into the swing of things in November. At first your sodium levels were only somewhat higher and now they're consistently in the 6000 to 7000mg range. Also, I posted that before seeing your exchange with @ultrahoon. Yes, those little inaccuracies can, and do, add up.
Those little things CAN add up if there are a lot of them. I'm asserting that there aren't enough of them in my day to account for the TDEE discrepancy. Even if all 6 hot dogs (OK this sounds bad but really, IIFYM right?) are 10 calories over and my yogurt was 10 calories over that's 70 calories. Where's the other 130? Oh yeah, and that would have to be DAILY. I don't eat yogurt daily even. My cottage cheese I weigh, and usually dinner is cod, salmon, or chicken. Weighed. Veggies. Yup, weighed.
Yes but my point is you don't know that because TDEE calculators, heart rate monitors, exercise machines etc are all estimates. You can't control the accuracy of a heart rate monitor or an exercise machine or whatever you use to determine calories out, but you can control (to a much larger extent) the accuracy in your calorie counting.0
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