Orangetheory
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I get it, but cups equate to ounces to milliliters to grams. It's the same.0
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My weight before starting was 126-128. Now, 131-134. Fat calculated with Bod Pod. No change in measurements. I see some difference in my appearance but wasn't surprised my fat % didn't change much.
Depending on your height this sounds pretty light. What are your goals with OTF? Are you trying to lose weight or just improve fitness?
A scale, for solids, is the most accurate way to determine how much you are actually eating.0 -
Milliliters don't ever convert to grams. One is a unit of volume and the other is a unit of mass.
Cups don't convert to ounces, either. A cup can be converted into fluid ounces, but an ounce is a unit of weight, and a fluid ounce a unit of volume, namely the volume of water that weighs one ounce. The weight of a fluid ounce will depend on the density of whatever's being measured.0 -
Yes actually they do convert. I'm a nurse and 1 ml= 1 gram. 30 ml = ounce. 8 oz= cup . This is plenty accurate.0
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1 ml of solid metal does not weigh 1 gram. 1 ml of water does.0
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Once you get your own system set up, it doesn't take too long. I spend maybe 30 minutes on a weekend weighing and packaging single portions of non-refrigerated snacks (nuts, pretzels) and have them all set up in a cupboard container so the fiance and I can grab and log when we get hungry or when I'm putting snacks in our bags for during the day at work. For refrigerated/"perishable" foods (fruit, cheeses), I slice up a single portion and weigh it in the morning, each morning when I make lunches (this doesn't add any time, since I slice cheeses and fruits anyways, I just add the step of weighing before I put them into bags).
For meals I cook, I make 2-4 meals worth (so 4-8 servings total) at a time. Since I cook in sections (I'm not organized, nor do I have the kitchen setup to allow me to make multiple parts of a meal at once), I'll usually cook the things that I don't need to focus on (rice in a rice cooker, casseroles in the oven) first, then make things that take shorter times, and as I finish the entire meal, I just weigh each part, and box it for reheating (I'm still working on getting into the habit of weighing more things from homecooked meals instead of using measuring cups).
I've had a small food scale for some time now, which is great when I just want to measure snacks, but I purchased one with a larger measuring surface (williams-sonoma.com/products/oxo-digital-food-scale/).
For planning, I sat down one day and spent some time going through a couple of food blogs I follow and just wrote down recipes, plugged them in through MFP recipe builder, and planned meals for a few weeks out (I have all the lunches/dinners for January planned for fiance and I). It takes time, but it's much less stressful than me sitting down every week on Sunday trying to figure out what I was making for the week, and is much easier to track and stay on target than eating out or eating at the cafeteria at work. But I spend a lot of time on Pinterest marking recipes that interest me when I'm not looking at food blogs (most of which I found through Pinterest at one time).
A lot of it takes time, adapting, and building a routine that works. But once you get used to it, everything takes less time and gets easier.0 -
You probably shouldn't come to a calorie counting website and then not like the suggestion of "count your calories accurately". That's kinda step 1 of MFP. If you aren't game for that I'm not sure what to tell you.
There are basically 2 things that could be happening...
1. You are eating more than you think and\or burning less than you think.
2. You defy science or have a medical condition.
Obviously, you can see why suggestion #1 should be ruled out before thinking about #2.0 -
OP, the oatmeal box says a serving is 1/2 cup, or 40 grams. When I put my half cup measuring cup on the scale and then weigh out 40 grams, the 1/2 cup is NEVER full. Depending on how all the little oats settle into the 1/2 cup, it can be anywhere from 44 to 50 grams. If you cut chicken up into bite size pieces and put it into a cup container, a different amount of chicken will fit in every time you do it based on the size and shape of the pieces. The calorie counts on foods are accurate for the weight measurement given, not the volume. Maybe someone will find and post the video showing how inaccurate volume measuring can be.
Having said that, I'm going to bow out now. You asked for help finding the reason you aren't losing weight. Using a food scale will go a long way to helping you figure it out, and is fast, easy, and cheap. I'm sure you have your own reasons for not wanting to do that. Best of luck.0 -
What exercises were you doing before OTF?0
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Mostly Beachbody workouts. So thirty minutes, and mostly less intense than OTF. I'm not trying to be obstinate, but I'm a creature of habit. My habits have not changed over the past 4 months. I have a few friends who've had same trouble at OTF. I know I've not gotten close to intensity with beachbody as OTF. So all things equal, it doesn't added up.0
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1/2 cup would be 120ml0
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The answer is pretty simple. If you're gaining weight, you're eating more than you're burning. It really is that simple.
It is true that you may retain some water with a new workout regiment, but a: it is only temporary B: right after you would see a steady weight loss due to the workout and c: for it to retain water, you should be doing some regular, moderately intense workouts, which would result in fat loss after the initial water gain.
So, if you gained any weight, it's because your input was more than the output. There are a lot of people who explained this in a lot of different ways, really, that is the answer! Start measuring your food, a digital food scale is pretty cheap.
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Yes actually they do convert. I'm a nurse and 1 ml= 1 gram. 30 ml = ounce. 8 oz= cup . This is plenty accurate.
If you go back to your nursing books you'll soon recall that 1ml only equals 1g with pure water. Any substance with a density different from pure water will not have the conversion of 1ml to 1g.
ml is a volume measurement unit
g is a mass measurement unit
Density is mass divided by volume.
An example of 1ml not equalling 1g is mercury. 1ml of mercury equals 13.53g.
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Are you resting the other 3-4 days/week? How many steps are you getting per day?0
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Yes actually they do convert. I'm a nurse and 1 ml= 1 gram. 30 ml = ounce. 8 oz= cup . This is plenty accurate.
If you go back to your nursing books you'll soon recall that 1ml only equals 1g with pure water. Any substance with a density different from pure water will not have the conversion of 1ml to 1g.
ml is a volume measurement unit
g is a mass measurement unit
Density is mass divided by volume.
An example of 1ml not equalling 1g is mercury. 1ml of mercury equals 13.53g.
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I've never heard of Orangetheory workouts, but if its getting you exercise and you're getting fitter why not. On the scale / logging thing as others have said it takes no time at all to weigh food and log it. Just allow for the minute or two weighing when prepping meals; I really don't think about it, it's just something my wife and I do. As others have said all things being equal it seems like your guestimates are out, I've read articles that say people tend to underestimate portions. So get a cheap set of scales (ours were £15.00) and just take the time to weigh it, as I say its not a chore.0
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Orange theory if I remember the speal correctly has weight lifting along with cardio in their workout mix, I googled when we got one in my area. If this is the first time OP has used any kind of weightlifting then it's possible, not likely but possible, this is newb gains. Far more likely is adding a larger than needed snack after the class.0
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For the newborn baby reply. Not sure what you're getting at.
I feel like you're deliberately being obtuse. For experiment's sake, take what you believe to be your "normal" portions, weigh out everything you eat for one day (just one! Solids in grams, liquids in cups) and log it all into MFP. I'd love to see if you still think there's "something more to it" after weighing your food for a day. Because I'll bet there isn't.0 -
Yes actually they do convert. I'm a nurse and 1 ml= 1 gram. 30 ml = ounce. 8 oz= cup . This is plenty accurate.
No they don't
because you can pack in more than you should in your cups
you can easily double the amount of rice or grated cheese
a scale is about $15... invest in one
you are clearly overeating, your food intake has probably, unknowingly gone up because you are expending more in workouts .. body likes to be fueled
you've been given the right information over and over in this thread
you will either choose to trial it for 2 - 4 weeks and learn .. or continue the way you're going
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also this conversation happens time and time again on MFP
those that try the scale approach invariably come back and say they never realised how many calories they were actually eating
it's mind-blowing
you're not unusual .. you are like most people .. we all think we know better, personal proof is your only option0 -
I'm a nurse, too. Just get the dang food scale and weigh and measure absolutely everything. Then come back here in six to eight weeks and give us an update.0
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My husband has lost over 60 pounds in the last year by weighing his food and logging it. He even measures out his glasses of wine. I say, try it for one day. don't change a darn thing, but weigh/measure your food and log it for one day. Include every stick of gum, every spoonful of gravy/sauce/jelly/honey/sugar. My husband swears by the scale. both for food and his daily weigh in. I do as well.0
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What I've never understood about these forums is, someone comes and asks a question then they get a ton of responses. Every response is the same. Food Scale. But somehow you feel they are all incorrect. And you fight it tooth and nail.
The ONLY other thing I can suggest (if you absoultely WON'T get and use a food scale), is to get your thyroid checked. If you have recently and it's fine, then eliminate a snack out of your day for 4 weeks and come back and report. Something you've ALWAYS eaten EVERYDAY, remove it.
You are 99% chance eating too much. Seriously.0 -
Holy cow. I said I would try it. Thanks for the advice.0
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amyrebeccah wrote: »
This is a bit of a false comparison. 1 ml of most fluids is about 1g, as long as those fluids are mostly water. So you can safely weigh most drinks (milk, juice) and get an accurate measurement. I usually weigh my cereal milk and coffee milk rather than measuring it, for example. This only works for fluids with a density of approximately 1g/ml. A baby does not have a density of 1g/ml. Neither do fluids with either a high percentage of oil or of solids (so salad dressing or salsa wouldn't work).
Note that following this rule typically results in weighing more foods, not less
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amyrebeccah wrote: »
This is a bit of a false comparison. 1 ml of most fluids is about 1g, as long as those fluids are mostly water. So you can safely weigh most drinks (milk, juice) and get an accurate measurement. I usually weigh my cereal milk and coffee milk rather than measuring it, for example. This only works for fluids with a density of approximately 1g/ml. A baby does not have a density of 1g/ml. Neither do fluids with either a high percentage of oil or of solids (so salad dressing or salsa wouldn't work).
Note that following this rule typically results in weighing more foods, not less.
not true of oil is it?
I though 4g = 5ml
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In love with Orangetheory workouts, but really bummed with results. I've been going 3-4 times per week for over 4 months. Gained 4 lbs and 1% body fat. My diet is pretty clean and hasn't changed. So I'm burning more calories than prior to starting OTF. Is this my body adapting and it will change? Suggestions? Just makes no sense to gain weight and fat doing this workout.
Did you actually gain 1% BF or did your BF% go up 1%? There is a difference.
A food scale isn't necessary for weight loss, though it can be a handy tool.
If your body fat % went up then one of 2 things had to happen. Either you gained fat or you lost LBM. You can't gain fat in a calorie deficit. You can lose LBM in a calorie deficit.
But there is a margin of error on measuring BF by any means, including Bod Pod. It's quite possible your BF% didn't change at all.0
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