I've dropped 90lbs before...let's go again.
beardybuddha73
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Ballooned up to 330. Got down to 245. Currently 270.
I've lost the weight before. I simply stopped trying when I was satisfied with the loss.
But that's not how this works.
I've re-committed to my health now that I'm 26, as I've just become tired of always being the fat guy. It's been fun but it's time to get real.
Here's how I did it the first time: lots of water, limited calories and working out six days a week. I cut out fast food, sweets and sugars, snacking and my beloved pizza. I didn't give up drinking though (Irish).
This time around I'm not going to be as aggressive. This time it's more about long-term health than quick results.
I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:
STOP drinking sugary drinks. Juice, milk and water will find you well.
STOP eating fast food, pizza, or any of that processed garbage. Avoid it as much as poasible.
STOP snacking. If you are serious about dropping the weight, find the discipline to wait to eat until meals. Drink a glass of water instead.
Just a few tips. If you want more, add me. I've been through this before. I've gained some back. If you want respectful, but honest, support, I'm your guy.
Let's do this together and kick health's *kitten*.
I've lost the weight before. I simply stopped trying when I was satisfied with the loss.
But that's not how this works.
I've re-committed to my health now that I'm 26, as I've just become tired of always being the fat guy. It's been fun but it's time to get real.
Here's how I did it the first time: lots of water, limited calories and working out six days a week. I cut out fast food, sweets and sugars, snacking and my beloved pizza. I didn't give up drinking though (Irish).
This time around I'm not going to be as aggressive. This time it's more about long-term health than quick results.
I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:
STOP drinking sugary drinks. Juice, milk and water will find you well.
STOP eating fast food, pizza, or any of that processed garbage. Avoid it as much as poasible.
STOP snacking. If you are serious about dropping the weight, find the discipline to wait to eat until meals. Drink a glass of water instead.
Just a few tips. If you want more, add me. I've been through this before. I've gained some back. If you want respectful, but honest, support, I'm your guy.
Let's do this together and kick health's *kitten*.
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Not to argue, but plenty of people lose weight eating pizza, fast food and processed garbage in moderation. It may not be the best way, but it can be done. Also, juice is a very sugary drink; it's better to eat the actual fruit. And snacking is something that many, MANY people do while losing weight.
None of those things alone will guarantee success or make you fail as you imply, but they may help or hinder where willpower is not working.
But to each their own. Best of luck to you.0 -
I was just saying what worked for me. Snacking always just made me hungrier which just made it harder to resist eating more.
I had tried to lose weight plenty of times before i got to 330. But until I got serious and cut out pizza and all that garbage, I didn't lose much.
And yes juice was a terrible example. Haha0 -
I agree with you Beardy - I've lost 120 lbs and I'm working on getting down more. Sugar is the enemy and if anyone wants to be truly healthy, you do not eat fast food or garbage food. Just because you can lose weight eating crappy food, doesn't mean you should...0
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gurlygirlrcr80 wrote: »I agree with you Beardy - I've lost 120 lbs and I'm working on getting down more. Sugar is the enemy and if anyone wants to be truly healthy, you do not eat fast food or garbage food. Just because you can lose weight eating crappy food, doesn't mean you should...
So you are saying it is unhealthy to sometimes have pizza, hamburgers, fried chicken, etc? That is why people fail; when they try to live their entire life without ever eating ice cream, cookies, or fast food. You CAN be healthy eating basically whatever you want as long as it is all in moderation. I never said you should live on a Big Mac diet, but anyone who says you have to go your entire life without ever putting any of those foods in your mouth again is incorrect.
Yes, there are those who choose to be vegan, vegetarian, clean eating, keto, whatever... but that is not the only way to be healthy. You can have delicious things during your lifetime and enjoy them. We all only get one life, no reason in making it a stresser to never eat things you enjoy again.0 -
What do you plan to do once you've lost the weight so that you'll keep it off this time?
Only cut things out that you'll never eat again. If you plan to eat it again after you've lost the weight, eat it (in moderate amounts) while you lose the weight so that you learn how to work it into your overall lifestyle.
Honestly, weight loss is the easy part when compared to actually keeping it off. I've lost hundreds of pounds over my lifetime. The thing is, they were same pounds over and over again because I didn't learn how to eat at maintenance. I went back to my non-diet foods and the weight crept back.
This time, I'm losing weight by eating the foods I like but less of them. That way, maintenance will just mean having a slightly larger calorie budget than I did while losing.0 -
What do you plan to do once you've lost the weight so that you'll keep it off this time?
Only cut things out that you'll never eat again. If you plan to eat it again after you've lost the weight, eat it (in moderate amounts) while you lose the weight so that you learn how to work it into your overall lifestyle.
Honestly, weight loss is the easy part when compared to actually keeping it off. I've lost hundreds of pounds over my lifetime. The thing is, they were same pounds over and over again because I didn't learn how to eat at maintenance. I went back to my non-diet foods and the weight crept back.
This time, I'm losing weight by eating the foods I like but less of them. That way, maintenance will just mean having a slightly larger calorie budget than I did while losing.
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This is how I am managing maintenance as well. Who is to say what is healthier for someone else. There are no guarantees in life. Just because you eat what you think is healthy, does not mean you will be exempt from gaining weight back or getting some disease that could jeopardize your life.
Moderation, portion control, moving more and common sense. Eat what you like in moderation. Life is too short to limit your self to certain foods that are deemed "healthier". What is more sustainable in the long term. It's the New Year, and there seems to be a lot more starting over again posts, than there are long term maintaining posts. I am not condemning, just saying, I have been there, done that, for too many years. This time I am trying to do it right. (2 years and 2 months maintaining. -160 plus pounds)
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Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
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beardybuddha73 wrote: »Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
I am the same way... I just have to completely cut myself off. I tell everyone around me that I am going "cold turkey" as well. People never stop trying to get you to eat stuff anyway... I am terrible at moderation and always have been!0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
I apologize for coming off as crass, I guess it was because you said "I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:" and then listed off things that not everyone has to do in order to succeed. There are those that truly have to cut things out and that is fine, I just want to let people know they can still succeed without following those rules, much like the others have said. Moderation
I do wish you the best, though.0 -
I've maintained the same weight for 4 years now. I know how to maintain while still eating the crap.
This is for people like me who tried for years to "diet" and eat in moderation but always just ended up eating more and more of something like pizza because they kept it in their life.
I'm not saying I'll NEVER eat pizza again. But I won't consider touching it until I'm totally satisfied with where I'm at with my health.0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:
STOP drinking sugary drinks. Juice, milk and water will find you well.
STOP eating fast food, pizza, or any of that processed garbage. Avoid it as much as poasible.
STOP snacking. If you are serious about dropping the weight, find the discipline to wait to eat until meals. Drink a glass of water instead.
No thanks, I like making progress while still including those foods in my diet. Maybe you should try as well which just might help you not regain...
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to each his own!!! I am not going to cut out things I love I am going to learn to eat them in moderation. Sugar is not the devil nor is it evil!! Losing weight is about calories in and calories out. People have lost and maintained weight by eating "crappy" foods all the time.This is a life style change and learning how to eat those things you love for the rest of your life.0
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beardybuddha73 wrote: »Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
I apologize for coming off as crass, I guess it was because you said "I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:" and then listed off things that not everyone has to do in order to succeed. There are those that truly have to cut things out and that is fine, I just want to let people know they can still succeed without following those rules, much like the others have said. Moderation
I do wish you the best, though.
Yeah I should've been more clear to start things out. This is for the folks who have tried to lose while still eating things they like such as pizza.
I knew it'd pry ruffle a few feathers.
Good luck to you too! At least we're all trying!0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:
STOP drinking sugary drinks. Juice, milk and water will find you well.
STOP eating fast food, pizza, or any of that processed garbage. Avoid it as much as poasible.
STOP snacking. If you are serious about dropping the weight, find the discipline to wait to eat until meals. Drink a glass of water instead.
No thanks, I like making progress while still including those foods in my diet. Maybe you should try as well which just might help you not regain...
I just have to do it this way. It's the same way I stopped chewing tobacco. Cold turkey and overcome the cravings. It ain't for everybody. Was just hoping to find some folks that need a similar strategy. Good luck!0 -
Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?0
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to each his own!!! I am not going to cut out things I love I am going to learn to eat them in moderation. Sugar is not the devil nor is it evil!! Losing weight is about calories in and calories out. People have lost and maintained weight by eating "crappy" foods all the time.This is a life style change and learning how to eat those things you love for the rest of your life.
I guess an underlying point for me is why do I need to eat pizza? Sure I love it. It's delicious. But my body does not need that. At all. Ha-ha.
So I don't see an issue with trying to cut things out entirely. Because that's how I have to operate to be successful. People say "you're just setting yourself up to fail."
I say so what? Just my outlook.
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Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?
The plan didn't fail. My will to keep following it failed. And I haven't binged. So idk what you're talking about. Lol.0 -
You know what they say the definition of insanity is...
Have you ever though about the psychological factor (pleasure) of food? Is that not needed? If you love pizza, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with pizza, why not try to fit it in on occasion. Sure, you can't eat pizza all the time, but there is 0 reason not to have it on occasion.
I guess if you want to do something you have already failed at, again, just for the sake of it with no meaningful meaning other than "so what", than so be it. To each their own. Just don't try to imply that one must go about it haphazardly to be successful.0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?
The plan didn't fail. My will to keep following it failed. And I haven't binged. So idk what you're talking about. Lol.beardybuddha73 wrote: »Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?
The plan didn't fail. My will to keep following it failed. And I haven't binged. So idk what you're talking about. Lol.
I call gaining weight back a failure, and a binge. Not sure what time frame you put that back on though, so binge might be a stretch depending on time frame.0 -
Your initial post said that your weren't trying to be mean but, if someone wanted to succeed, they needed to do the things you listed. That's not true. People can succeed just fine without doing those things. There is no one true way.beardybuddha73 wrote: »beardybuddha73 wrote: »Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
I apologize for coming off as crass, I guess it was because you said "I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:" and then listed off things that not everyone has to do in order to succeed. There are those that truly have to cut things out and that is fine, I just want to let people know they can still succeed without following those rules, much like the others have said. Moderation
I do wish you the best, though.
Yeah I should've been more clear to start things out. This is for the folks who have tried to lose while still eating things they like such as pizza.
I knew it'd pry ruffle a few feathers.
Good luck to you too! At least we're all trying!
Your way isn't superior. Or inferior. It's just one way among many. People can succeed doing the things you listed. People can also succeed without doing the things you listed.
Each person needs to experiment to find what works and doesn't work for themselves.0 -
Exactly man. I'm crazy. Most people can't just do things cold turkey and never touch them again. I chewed tobacco for 7 years and I haven't touched the stuff in 3 years. And I'll never touch it again.
For me it's all about reprogramming my brain to not want or even really like pizza. Because like the tobacco, I know I'm not trying my best to be healthy if it's still in my life.
But I'm just a binging failure so what do I know haha0 -
Your initial post said that your weren't trying to be mean but, if someone wanted to succeed, they needed to do the things you listed. That's not true. People can succeed just fine without doing those things. There is no one true way.beardybuddha73 wrote: »beardybuddha73 wrote: »Because if I keep eating that stuff while I'm trying to lose I'll always lose more of it. I have to be cut and dry. I have to go cold turkey on things. It's just how my brain works.
The reason I gained some back is because I just stopped living the healthy lifestyle that had me down 90 pounds.
But I still kept most the weight off because I did develop good habits during my weight loss. My main message here is I simply stopped trying and now im trying again.
Everyone is different but some people (like me) have to do it this way.
I apologize for coming off as crass, I guess it was because you said "I'm not trying to be mean but if you really want to be successful:" and then listed off things that not everyone has to do in order to succeed. There are those that truly have to cut things out and that is fine, I just want to let people know they can still succeed without following those rules, much like the others have said. Moderation
I do wish you the best, though.
Yeah I should've been more clear to start things out. This is for the folks who have tried to lose while still eating things they like such as pizza.
I knew it'd pry ruffle a few feathers.
Good luck to you too! At least we're all trying!
Your way isn't superior. Or inferior. It's just one way among many. People can succeed doing the things you listed. People can also succeed without doing the things you listed.
Each person needs to experiment to find what works and doesn't work for themselves.
Thank you. I'm not the clearest communicator obviously.0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?
The plan didn't fail. My will to keep following it failed. And I haven't binged. So idk what you're talking about. Lol.beardybuddha73 wrote: »Right, what I'm saying is you have already tried this way and failed. Eliminating often leads to binging, which you have proven to be true in your case. Maybe you should try something else rather than trying a plan that has already failed for you?
The plan didn't fail. My will to keep following it failed. And I haven't binged. So idk what you're talking about. Lol.
I call gaining weight back a failure, and a binge. Not sure what time frame you put that back on though, so binge might be a stretch depending on time frame.
25 pounds back over a 5 year period after allowing myself to eat pizza, fried food, soda. And that was after dropping 90 in 14 months. So yeah I suppose it is a failure.0 -
I have lost all my excess weight eating everything on your list including beer with moderation. There are no bad foods just too much food. Eliminating foods does not seem to work for you.0
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beardybuddha73 wrote: »Exactly man. I'm crazy. Most people can't just do things cold turkey and never touch them again. I chewed tobacco for 7 years and I haven't touched the stuff in 3 years. And I'll never touch it again.
For me it's all about reprogramming my brain to not want or even really like pizza. Because like the tobacco, I know I'm not trying my best to be healthy if it's still in my life.
But I'm just a binging failure so what do I know haha
Tobacco is a poor comparison as it does harm to your body. Pizza does not. So why would you want to program your brain? If you hit all your macro and micro needs through a wholesome diet, but have some room to spare, why not through in a piece of pizza if you have the calories to use? It's something you like...why deprive yourself?
And good for you. I smoked cigarettes for 20 and threw them away 3 years ago and haven't used them since.
I don't think you are a failure. I just think that maybe the plan isn't right for you since you weren't able to stick with it. That's kinda the point of MFP is to find what works the best for you. Have you tried losing weight on different plans as well?
Look man, do what you want. I was just trying to help. I literally did exactly what you are doing "again" the first time I lost weight. Guess what, I put it back on. Then I learned moderation and have been successful ever since. I dropped 80lbs from 255 to 175 in 9 months and have gotten myself down to 10-11% body fat in that time frame. I can bench 250, squat 350, and deadlift 375. I can also run a 6:00 mile, a 21 minute 5k, a 45 minute 10k, and a 100 mile bike ride in under 7 hours... I have also been maintaining for 2+ years while also improving.... but what do I know haha0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »Exactly man. I'm crazy. Most people can't just do things cold turkey and never touch them again. I chewed tobacco for 7 years and I haven't touched the stuff in 3 years. And I'll never touch it again.
For me it's all about reprogramming my brain to not want or even really like pizza. Because like the tobacco, I know I'm not trying my best to be healthy if it's still in my life.
But I'm just a binging failure so what do I know haha
Tobacco is a poor comparison as it does harm to your body. Pizza does not. So why would you want to program your brain? If you hit all your macro and micro needs through a wholesome diet, but have some room to spare, why not through in a piece of pizza if you have the calories to use? It's something you like...why deprive yourself?
And good for you. I smoked cigarettes for 20 and threw them away 3 years ago and haven't used them since.
I don't think you are a failure. I just think that maybe the plan isn't right for you since you weren't able to stick with it. That's kinda the point of MFP is to find what works the best for you. Have you tried losing weight on different plans as well?
Look man, do what you want. I was just trying to help. I literally did exactly what you are doing "again" the first time I lost weight. Guess what, I put it back on. Then I learned moderation and have been successful ever since. I dropped 80lbs from 255 to 175 in 9 months and have gotten myself down to 10-11% body fat in that time frame. I can bench 250, squat 350, and deadlift 375. I can also run a 6:00 mile, a 21 minute 5k, a 45 minute 10k, and a 100 mile bike ride in under 7 hours... I have also been maintaining for 2+ years while also improving.... but what do I know haha
Well I'm also not planning to be a fitness guru like you've become. Because that's impressive.
I was always the fat kid growing up. So I tried countless ways to lose weight before. I tried the moderation bit for years.
I just always struggled until I went this route. And one of the big reasons I "failed" was my best friend died. I think I would've been able to maintain if that hadn't happened.
Good on ya for the cigs. Nicotine is a B0 -
beardybuddha73 wrote: »Exactly man. I'm crazy. Most people can't just do things cold turkey and never touch them again. I chewed tobacco for 7 years and I haven't touched the stuff in 3 years. And I'll never touch it again.
For me it's all about reprogramming my brain to not want or even really like pizza. Because like the tobacco, I know I'm not trying my best to be healthy if it's still in my life.
But I'm just a binging failure so what do I know haha
Nicotine is a bit different than food. Everyone at some point has to have some form of withdrawal where nicotine stops being in the system at all, to quit using nicotine products.
The end products of foods are always in your system. If they're not, you're dead, and that's not a solution to anything. So you'll always need to be putting some kind of food in your body.
I do find it interesting that someone with a username that includes the word Buddha would advocate absolutes though.0 -
gurlygirlrcr80 wrote: »I agree with you Beardy - I've lost 120 lbs and I'm working on getting down more. Sugar is the enemy and if anyone wants to be truly healthy, you do not eat fast food or garbage food. Just because you can lose weight eating crappy food, doesn't mean you should...
So you are saying it is unhealthy to sometimes have pizza, hamburgers, fried chicken, etc? That is why people fail; when they try to live their entire life without ever eating ice cream, cookies, or fast food. You CAN be healthy eating basically whatever you want as long as it is all in moderation. I never said you should live on a Big Mac diet, but anyone who says you have to go your entire life without ever putting any of those foods in your mouth again is incorrect.
Yes, there are those who choose to be vegan, vegetarian, clean eating, keto, whatever... but that is not the only way to be healthy. You can have delicious things during your lifetime and enjoy them. We all only get one life, no reason in making it a stresser to never eat things you enjoy again.
I'm saying that having that once a month or as a treat isn't bad but working it into your normal diet is not healthy.
Pretty sure I did not say never eating those things again was part of the process. Avoid and resist is what everyone struggles with. We all cave and have cheat days or whatever...that should go without saying.
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beardybuddha73 wrote: »Exactly man. I'm crazy. Most people can't just do things cold turkey and never touch them again. I chewed tobacco for 7 years and I haven't touched the stuff in 3 years. And I'll never touch it again.
For me it's all about reprogramming my brain to not want or even really like pizza. Because like the tobacco, I know I'm not trying my best to be healthy if it's still in my life.
But I'm just a binging failure so what do I know haha
Nicotine is a bit different than food. Everyone at some point has to have some form of withdrawal where nicotine stops being in the system at all, to quit using nicotine products.
The end products of foods are always in your system. If they're not, you're dead, and that's not a solution to anything. So you'll always need to be putting some kind of food in your body.
I do find it interesting that someone with a username that includes the word Buddha would advocate absolutes though.
Well it's actually Sith Master Buddha. Because only a Sith deals in absolutes.
I'll stop haha.0 -
gurlygirlrcr80 wrote: »gurlygirlrcr80 wrote: »I agree with you Beardy - I've lost 120 lbs and I'm working on getting down more. Sugar is the enemy and if anyone wants to be truly healthy, you do not eat fast food or garbage food. Just because you can lose weight eating crappy food, doesn't mean you should...
So you are saying it is unhealthy to sometimes have pizza, hamburgers, fried chicken, etc? That is why people fail; when they try to live their entire life without ever eating ice cream, cookies, or fast food. You CAN be healthy eating basically whatever you want as long as it is all in moderation. I never said you should live on a Big Mac diet, but anyone who says you have to go your entire life without ever putting any of those foods in your mouth again is incorrect.
Yes, there are those who choose to be vegan, vegetarian, clean eating, keto, whatever... but that is not the only way to be healthy. You can have delicious things during your lifetime and enjoy them. We all only get one life, no reason in making it a stresser to never eat things you enjoy again.
I'm saying that having that once a month isn't bad but working it into your normal diet is not healthy.
Why can't you work it into your normal diet, and what do you mean it isn't healthy? What qualifies as healthy to you?
I have pizza once a week. I just choose moderation and work it into my calorie budget, as I do all of my food, and personally choose veggie toppings, but that is personal choice, as I have come to prefer veggie pizza now.
It has been working for me for almost 4 years. Maybe not everyone's way of eating, but works for many people.
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