There are 'BAD' foods

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  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    Sissy.

    Guilty as charged
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    What's wrong with margarine?
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    Oh, I didn't mean scientifically. Because the entire premise of this thread has nothing to do with actual science. I was talking in terms of dem feelz.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    What's wrong with margarine?

    Because something something transfats according to people apparently.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    Oh, I didn't mean scientifically. Because the entire premise of this thread has nothing to do with actual science. I was talking in terms of dem feelz.

    In that case, I think butter is the jerky boyfriend that keeps getting dumped but the girl keeps coming back to him. One day, he's all natural and the next he's full of fat and just plain awful. Then margarine is artificial and butter is all natural so he's good again. She hates his guts...but he's so cute and sweet...but he's such a jerk...but look how sincere he is...
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    But think of the calorie burn from mouth-churning your own fresh butter. It would probably turn butter into a negative calorie food.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    edited January 2016
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    What's wrong with margarine?

    Because something something transfats according to people apparently.

    ...and chemikulz

    But EVERYONE knows butter tastes better anyway :trollface:
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    What's wrong with margarine?

    Because something something transfats according to people apparently.

    I would agree that trans fats are bad, but there numerous trans fat free margarines available.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    Used to be, but it's back out of bad food jail on parole. Now margarine (the healthy alternative) is the bad guy.

    What's wrong with margarine?

    Nothing IMO. But that's what they tell me I'm supposed to think.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    But think of the calorie burn from mouth-churning your own fresh butter. It would probably turn butter into a negative calorie food.

    Yeah, and the buttermilk byproduct right there in your mouth...
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    I also enjoy butter more than sucking milk straight from a cow's teat and swishing it around in my mouth until it's churned into a consistency that I can then spit onto my food.


    ...but then again, butter's probably one o' them there "Bad Foods".

    But think of the calorie burn from mouth-churning your own fresh butter. It would probably turn butter into a negative calorie food.

    That's why I always swish jello around too.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    yea, but processing....
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    the lesser the processing, the better.


    I've always found cooking meat to be an improvement over gnawing it right off the bone in the middle of the forest.

    yea, but processing....

    I know I know

    I'm already drafting my own obituary...
  • vivmom2014
    vivmom2014 Posts: 1,649 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    In that case, I think butter is the jerky boyfriend that keeps getting dumped but the girl keeps coming back to him. One day, he's all natural and the next he's full of fat and just plain awful. Then margarine is artificial and butter is all natural so he's good again. She hates his guts...but he's so cute and sweet...but he's such a jerk...but look how sincere he is...

    OK, this made me LOL.

  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    lol. you guys are pretty funny. yes, my standards are subjective and not scientific at all. yes, i prefer butter to sucking a cows' teet. yes i cook meat and know that this is processing. chopping vegetables is processing, etc. i mean common sense stuff. (what is common sense? i know i know). making a pizza at home vs little caesars, home made burgers with grass fed beef on freshly baked bakery bread and tomatoes and onion from your own garden vs. Mcdonald. is this so unreasonable an idea?

    But the question...is why?

    If it's common sense and not hokus pokus there has to be a reason why.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    im not gonna give you links. you are correct. i merely consider eating anything unnatural,(i.e. artificial) as bad. the lesser the processing, the better.

    how are you defining processed?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    lol. you guys are pretty funny. yes, my standards are subjective and not scientific at all. yes, i prefer butter to sucking a cows' teet. yes i cook meat and know that this is processing. chopping vegetables is processing, etc. i mean common sense stuff. (what is common sense? i know i know). making a pizza at home vs little caesars, home made burgers with grass fed beef on freshly baked bakery bread and tomatoes and onion from your own garden vs. Mcdonald. is this so unreasonable an idea?

    how is mcdonalds burger any more processed then one you make at home?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    lol. you guys are pretty funny. yes, my standards are subjective and not scientific at all. yes, i prefer butter to sucking a cows' teet. yes i cook meat and know that this is processing. chopping vegetables is processing, etc. i mean common sense stuff. (what is common sense? i know i know). making a pizza at home vs little caesars, home made burgers with grass fed beef on freshly baked bakery bread and tomatoes and onion from your own garden vs. Mcdonald. is this so unreasonable an idea?

    so people that don't have gardens because they live in the city are doomed to a shortened life of eating processed foods...?
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    Are you implying that a grocery store tomato (it's a bit chilly for fresh garden tomatoes this time of year) is not food?
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    What part of the 100% beef McDonald's patty is not food? The beef or the beef?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    Are you implying that a grocery store tomato (it's a bit chilly for fresh garden tomatoes this time of year) is not food?

    everyone knows those are fake...
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    potatosalad.jpg
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    i know that anything can be considered processing,(chopping, cooking, baking). i mean the heavy processing with tons of chemicals and additives that you wouldnt normally put on the food that you would cook at home, (McDonalds, cheetos, coke, candy, hot dogs)

    Most (probably all) knew what you meant.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    i know that anything can be considered processing,(chopping, cooking, baking). i mean the heavy processing with tons of chemicals and additives that you wouldnt normally put on the food that you would cook at home, (McDonalds, cheetos, coke, candy, hot dogs)

    And again...the important question is...why?

    I mean if it's a choice you're making for yourself...I got no issues. But when making blanket recommendations for others to follow, the "why" suddenly becomes a lot more important.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    edited January 2016
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    What part of the 100% beef McDonald's patty is not food? The beef or the beef?
    I don't know, but something isn't right for the patty to be cooked within 45 seconds (I've worked there so I know it cooks in that amount of time, and sometimes less). Yes it's high heat and the patty is very thin, but that's still an awfully short time. On the other hand, their sirloin burgers take 3-4 times as long to cook, and I'm not sure that the size difference justifies the difference in cooking time by that much of a factor.

  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    i know that anything can be considered processing,(chopping, cooking, baking). i mean the heavy processing with tons of chemicals and additives that you wouldnt normally put on the food that you would cook at home, (McDonalds, cheetos, coke, candy, hot dogs)

    What are a few of these "tons of chemicals and additives" and why should I avoid them? How are they bad for me?

    Are there legitimate proven health risks I should be made aware of or are you just put off by the scary made up stories of the big bad GMO that went Boo?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    What part of the 100% beef McDonald's patty is not food? The beef or the beef?
    I don't know, but something isn't right for the patty to be cooked within 45 seconds (I've worked there so I know it cooks in that amount of time, and sometimes less). Yes it's high heat and the patty is very thin, but that's still an awfully short time. On the other hand, their sirloin burgers take 3-4 times as long to cook, and I'm not sure that the size difference justifies the difference in cooking time by that much of a factor.

    here is your answer..

    mcdonalds takes less time because super hot surface + thin burger..

    8 ounce burger takes longer, because bigger..
    mystery solved...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    sullus wrote: »
    potatosalad.jpg

    ha, I love the far side!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited January 2016
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    alstin2015 wrote: »
    Because i prefer my food to be made of food

    Are you implying that a grocery store tomato (it's a bit chilly for fresh garden tomatoes this time of year) is not food?

    everyone knows those are fake...

    wrong quote