There are 'BAD' foods
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...0 -
Foods that are on my BAD list:
- Peanuts. deathly allergic. and I love them. It is a horrible combination.
- Soybeans. allergic (since infancy). For some reason they're added to almost everything.
- Oysters. Because they're just gross and smell awful. Personal preference.
- Anything that smells fishy. Same as above
- Brussel's sprouts. Takes too much butter to make them edible.
- Mushy apples. Life is too short for that.
There's no accounting for personal preferences, but I'm not going to justify my tastes/preferences/allergies by claiming they're BAD for everyone.
Foods that are on my GOOD list:- Cookies. Particularly homemade, with butter. Yum!
- Avocados. I know of nothing else as good at getting me to eat lettuce.
- Ice cream. Made with real cream and sugar. Pretty much a perfect food.
- Hamburger. So versatile. So useful.
- Turkey. In almost any form, although ground turkey is a little unreliable imo.
- Lasagna. Its a pan of heaven.
- Bananas. They're yummy.
- Grape Nuts with sugar and milk. Easy and quick and tasty way to get 7g fiber.
"Good" and "Bad" are terribly subjective terms. And I don't like applying moral judgments to food. What you eat is not your character.0 -
Bad is such a bad word. It can mean "low quality", "unhealthy" or "sinful" and the whole "bad food" dispute gets lost in semantics. Most foods can be eaten in moderate amounts, but some foods are hard to moderate for many, if the amount that will satisfy you is way more than you need.0
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suziecue20 wrote: »The UK Government has just labelled ALL processed meats, including bacon and sausages as being dangerous to health [cancer causing] so how can they not be bad?
Because the uk government don't know their ar $e from their elbow and will publish whatever "scientific" carp they get paid most for. ......
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Looks like a lot of drayco_'s kin are in this thread.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/994718/your-food-is-killong-you/p1
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I think I'm missing where potassium is listed. I see calories, carbs, fat, protein, cholesterol, sodium, sugar, and fiber.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
I think I'm missing where potassium is listed. I see calories, carbs, fat, protein, cholesterol, sodium, sugar, and fiber.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...
Very first thing listed. Before the date.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
I think I'm missing where potassium is listed. I see calories, carbs, fat, protein, cholesterol, sodium, sugar, and fiber.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...
oh, weird, a little bug with the printable report, let's use the web page, here you go:
Your Food Diary For:
Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0 6 0 1 2
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0 8 7 111 0
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1 9 11 123 118
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26 0 2 2 349
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30 0 1 1 465
Add Food Quick Tools 506 57 24 21 238 934
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1 0 0 6 39
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0 7 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9 0 1 61 484
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0 6 30 90 558
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0 6 13 253 199
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0 8 8 60 0
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0 0 0 1 24
Add Food Quick Tools 468 9 27 52 471 1,303
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0 16 0 2 5
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1 1 8 383 56
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0 7 6 96 0
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20 0 1 2 285
Add Food Quick Tools 416 31 25 24 720 2,020
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40 1 2 6 498
Add Food Quick Tools 159 40 1 2 6 498
Evening Snack
Add Food Quick Tools
Totals 1,549 137 77 100 1,435 4,755
Your Food Diary For:
Friday, January 8, 2016
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0 9 0 0 0
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30 0 1 2 232
Add Food Quick Tools 253 32 11 14 641 326
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3 0 1 28 194
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0 14 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17 0 3 122 969
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0 11 25 505 397
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2 0 0 10 160
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4 2 25 391 595
Add Food Quick Tools 608 25 27 55 1,056 2,315
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0 4 0 0 0
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20 0 1 3 249
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Add Food Quick Tools 245 32 7 23 879 2,017
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16 6 14 200 0
Add Food Quick Tools 176 16 6 14 200 0
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35 13 4 0 0
Add Food Quick Tools 280 35 13 4 0 0
Totals 1,562 140 64 109 2,776 4,6580 -
I believe that within the fitness dimension are labeled like that based on how easy or hard to digest them is, e.g fried chicken.0
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Ok thanks. I had mentioned earlier "But again, it seems to me that many people on here aren't eating enough fruits and vegetables (even on a mostly regular basis) to meet those particular RDAs." I can see that your are an exception to that, as the 3.5 servings of spinach you had both days made up a significant component of your potassium intake.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
I think I'm missing where potassium is listed. I see calories, carbs, fat, protein, cholesterol, sodium, sugar, and fiber.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...
oh, weird, a little bug with the printable report, let's use the web page, here you go:
Your Food Diary For:
Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0 6 0 1 2
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0 8 7 111 0
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1 9 11 123 118
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26 0 2 2 349
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30 0 1 1 465
Add Food Quick Tools 506 57 24 21 238 934
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1 0 0 6 39
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0 7 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9 0 1 61 484
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0 6 30 90 558
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0 6 13 253 199
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0 8 8 60 0
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0 0 0 1 24
Add Food Quick Tools 468 9 27 52 471 1,303
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0 16 0 2 5
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1 1 8 383 56
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0 7 6 96 0
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20 0 1 2 285
Add Food Quick Tools 416 31 25 24 720 2,020
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40 1 2 6 498
Add Food Quick Tools 159 40 1 2 6 498
Evening Snack
Add Food Quick Tools
Totals 1,549 137 77 100 1,435 4,755
Your Food Diary For:
Friday, January 8, 2016
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0 9 0 0 0
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30 0 1 2 232
Add Food Quick Tools 253 32 11 14 641 326
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3 0 1 28 194
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0 14 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17 0 3 122 969
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0 11 25 505 397
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2 0 0 10 160
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4 2 25 391 595
Add Food Quick Tools 608 25 27 55 1,056 2,315
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0 4 0 0 0
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20 0 1 3 249
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Add Food Quick Tools 245 32 7 23 879 2,017
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16 6 14 200 0
Add Food Quick Tools 176 16 6 14 200 0
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35 13 4 0 0
Add Food Quick Tools 280 35 13 4 0 0
Totals 1,562 140 64 109 2,776 4,658
The same goes for HappyCampr.
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[quote="ForecasterJason;35054689Ok thanks. I had mentioned earlier "But again, it seems to me that many people on here aren't eating enough fruits and vegetables (even on a mostly regular basis) to meet those particular RDAs." I can see that your are an exception to that, as the 3.5 servings of spinach you had both days made up a significant component of your potassium intake.
The same goes for HappyCampr.
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When the CDC recommends a daily multivitamin (for women of childbearing ages). The FDA goes further and recommends supplements for a wide variety of populations which have chronic malnutrition issues.
In short, there's a great deal of pragmatism in the recommendation for many people to take daily multivitamins. OBVIOUSLY if you're on medication that is counterindicated for it, you shouldn't take it. But far more people, and *especially dieters* run chronic micronutrient deficiencies that can be easily and cheaply corrected without necessitating major changes in diet.
Look, I get it. People want to be "clean," "healthy," and "natural". But eschewing a daily multivitamin for this emotional reason, and worse, advocating everyone else do so as well, makes no more sense than refusing to use antibiotics when you get a staph infection because *most* people survive them without medical intervention.
Malnutrition is common among obese individuals in the USA! I wouldn't be surprised if this is also true in other developed nations. { The Malnutrition of Obesity: Micronutrient Deficiencies that Promote Diabetes } That makes awareness about micronutrient deficiencies fairly critical in empowering individuals to make decisions that affect their health. But, practically, that also means offering solutions that don't require tremendous amounts of effort or money, because most people aren't motivated to make significant changes for an uncertain long-term payoff (far more people who are overweight/obese will never develop diabetes, for example, than will).
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OP I'm with you. I'm not going to pretend that a Keebler cookie is not 'bad' food. Doesn't mean I won't eat it, doesn't mean I feel guilty about it either (as long as I only eat one or two), but I'd be in denial if I didn't realize that there could be better choices.
Why would a Keebler cookie be a "bad" food if you've eaten a balanced diet all day, are within your calorie goals, have hit/come reasonably close to your macro goals, and are having that cookie as a snack because you have room under your calorie limit for it and it sounds good at the moment?
Context and dosage. No such thing as bad foods, but there is such a thing as a bad diet/eating habits overall. A Keebler cookie, or a bowl of ice cream, or a Big Mac or french fries or whatever aren't "bad" within the context of an overall balanced diet. Subsisting mostly or entirely upon those items would be a bad idea, just as subsisting entirely upon a diet of broccoli or kale or fresh fruits or chicken would be.
Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 7:30 am on a weekday would be bad. Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 1:00 am on a Saturday wouldn't carry the same risks. Context.
A-fricking-men.
I just think there are two views on this issue and I doubt anyone here is going to change anyone else's mind. Bottom line? I think the right attitude for this whole site is "do what works for you." If labeling something as 'bad' helps you? Terrific. Others, like me, might not agree, but what does that matter? Do what works as long as you aren't hurting yourself.
In general I agree with you, that since different people may have different reasons to choose or restrict certain foods, we should just let people make their own choices. However, there are many people who come to these forums with clear misconceptions about food based on clickbait articles, things they've heard from friends about "bad foods", etc. When people have the mindset that certain foods are "bad" and must be avoided at all costs, it can often set them up for failure because if they do indulge in one of those foods, then they throw everything out the window and just give up. That's why I think it is important to continue to have these discussions and make sure that we do talk about things like context and dosage and that there is no such thing as a bad individual food, there may be bad foods for an individual or bad diets made of lots of individual foods...
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WinoGelato wrote: »OP I'm with you. I'm not going to pretend that a Keebler cookie is not 'bad' food. Doesn't mean I won't eat it, doesn't mean I feel guilty about it either (as long as I only eat one or two), but I'd be in denial if I didn't realize that there could be better choices.
Why would a Keebler cookie be a "bad" food if you've eaten a balanced diet all day, are within your calorie goals, have hit/come reasonably close to your macro goals, and are having that cookie as a snack because you have room under your calorie limit for it and it sounds good at the moment?
Context and dosage. No such thing as bad foods, but there is such a thing as a bad diet/eating habits overall. A Keebler cookie, or a bowl of ice cream, or a Big Mac or french fries or whatever aren't "bad" within the context of an overall balanced diet. Subsisting mostly or entirely upon those items would be a bad idea, just as subsisting entirely upon a diet of broccoli or kale or fresh fruits or chicken would be.
Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 7:30 am on a weekday would be bad. Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 1:00 am on a Saturday wouldn't carry the same risks. Context.
A-fricking-men.
I just think there are two views on this issue and I doubt anyone here is going to change anyone else's mind. Bottom line? I think the right attitude for this whole site is "do what works for you." If labeling something as 'bad' helps you? Terrific. Others, like me, might not agree, but what does that matter? Do what works as long as you aren't hurting yourself.
In general I agree with you, that since different people may have different reasons to choose or restrict certain foods, we should just let people make their own choices. However, there are many people who come to these forums with clear misconceptions about food based on clickbait articles, things they've heard from friends about "bad foods", etc. When people have the mindset that certain foods are "bad" and must be avoided at all costs, it can often set them up for failure because if they do indulge in one of those foods, then they throw everything out the window and just give up. That's why I think it is important to continue to have these discussions and make sure that we do talk about things like context and dosage and that there is no such thing as a bad individual food, there may be bad foods for an individual or bad diets made of lots of individual foods...
^ Exactly. Most times the OP's mind is already made up and won't be changed. But hopefully other readers who are more open to actual science and common sense rather than woo will get something from it and maybe not go down an unnecessarily restrictive/silly path with false hopes for something that will make no difference.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »OP I'm with you. I'm not going to pretend that a Keebler cookie is not 'bad' food. Doesn't mean I won't eat it, doesn't mean I feel guilty about it either (as long as I only eat one or two), but I'd be in denial if I didn't realize that there could be better choices.
Why would a Keebler cookie be a "bad" food if you've eaten a balanced diet all day, are within your calorie goals, have hit/come reasonably close to your macro goals, and are having that cookie as a snack because you have room under your calorie limit for it and it sounds good at the moment?
Context and dosage. No such thing as bad foods, but there is such a thing as a bad diet/eating habits overall. A Keebler cookie, or a bowl of ice cream, or a Big Mac or french fries or whatever aren't "bad" within the context of an overall balanced diet. Subsisting mostly or entirely upon those items would be a bad idea, just as subsisting entirely upon a diet of broccoli or kale or fresh fruits or chicken would be.
Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 7:30 am on a weekday would be bad. Driving through a school zone at 40 mph at 1:00 am on a Saturday wouldn't carry the same risks. Context.
A-fricking-men.
I just think there are two views on this issue and I doubt anyone here is going to change anyone else's mind. Bottom line? I think the right attitude for this whole site is "do what works for you." If labeling something as 'bad' helps you? Terrific. Others, like me, might not agree, but what does that matter? Do what works as long as you aren't hurting yourself.
In general I agree with you, that since different people may have different reasons to choose or restrict certain foods, we should just let people make their own choices. However, there are many people who come to these forums with clear misconceptions about food based on clickbait articles, things they've heard from friends about "bad foods", etc. When people have the mindset that certain foods are "bad" and must be avoided at all costs, it can often set them up for failure because if they do indulge in one of those foods, then they throw everything out the window and just give up. That's why I think it is important to continue to have these discussions and make sure that we do talk about things like context and dosage and that there is no such thing as a bad individual food, there may be bad foods for an individual or bad diets made of lots of individual foods...
I still maintain that there are 'bad' foods. This doesn't mean that I never eat any of them, I do so in moderation. I'm afraid I cannot go along with we must never say there are such things as bad food because some people will be set up for failure because they eat too much, or none of them. edit.
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suziecue20 wrote: »
There are lots of foods that are 'bad' but obviously only when they are eaten in high volume and too frequently.
Every food if eaten in high enough volume or too frequently can be harmful. So does that mean all foods are bad and therefore becomes a useless description?
Doesn't too much water cause cramps etc by removing salt.
Don't a lot of fruits and vegetables cause either constipation or diarrhoea (sp?) if eaten in high enough quantities.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
Ok thanks. I had mentioned earlier "But again, it seems to me that many people on here aren't eating enough fruits and vegetables (even on a mostly regular basis) to meet those particular RDAs." I can see that your are an exception to that, as the 3.5 servings of spinach you had both days made up a significant component of your potassium intake.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
I think I'm missing where potassium is listed. I see calories, carbs, fat, protein, cholesterol, sodium, sugar, and fiber.Gianfranco_R wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »I singled out magnesium and potassium for a reason. A medium banana has 8% of the RDA for magnesium along with 9% of the RDA for potassium. A medium baked potato with the skin has 12% magnesium and 20% potassium. Unless you're basically going out of your way to get in as much potassium and magnesium as you can, it's just not that easy to get to 100% (particularly potassium). I'd love to see a diary of someone who is getting in 4700 mg of potassium from food alone.
4756 mg:
November 17, 2015
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0g 6g 0g 17mg 1mg 0g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0g 8g 7g 0mg 111mg 0g 0g
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1g 9g 11g 372mg 123mg 1g 0g
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26g 0g 2g 0mg 2mg 18g 5g
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30g 0g 1g 0mg 1mg 16g 3g
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1g 0g 0g 0mg 6mg 0g 0g
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0g 7g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9g 0g 1g 0mg 61mg 5g 4g
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0g 6g 30g 0mg 90mg 0g 0g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0g 6g 13g 71mg 253mg 0g 0g
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0g 8g 8g 25mg 60mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0g 0g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0g 16g 0g 43mg 2mg 0g 0g
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1g 1g 8g 19mg 383mg 1g 0g
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0g 7g 6g 0mg 96mg 0g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 8g
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40g 1g 2g 0mg 6mg 32g 5g
TOTAL: 1,549 139g 76g 99g 547mg 1,435mg 94g 32g
And 4658 mg last friday:
January 8, 2016
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0g 9g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30g 0g 1g 0mg 2mg 20g 6g
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3g 0g 1g 0mg 28mg 1g 1g
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0g 14g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17g 0g 3g 0mg 122mg 9g 7g
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0g 11g 25g 142mg 505mg 0g 0g
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2g 0g 0g 0mg 10mg 0g 0g
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4g 2g 25g 82mg 391mg 0g 0g
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0g 4g 0g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20g 0g 1g 0mg 3mg 16g 3g
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1g 1g 13g 32mg 639mg 1g 0g
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11g 1g 9g 0mg 237mg 1g 7g
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16g 6g 14g 0mg 200mg 16g 0g
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35g 13g 4g 0mg 0mg 0g 0g
TOTAL: 1,562 140g 62g 109g 288mg 2,776mg 65g 24g
So it seems that fish helps...
oh, weird, a little bug with the printable report, let's use the web page, here you go:
Your Food Diary For:
Tuesday, November 17, 2015
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Butter - Unsalted, 8 g 57 0 6 0 1 2
Galbani - Provola, 30 gr 101 0 8 7 111 0
Eggs - Whole, raw, 2 medium 129 1 9 11 123 118
Oranges - Raw, navels, 210 g 103 26 0 2 2 349
Bananas - Raw, 130 g 116 30 0 1 1 465
Add Food Quick Tools 506 57 24 21 238 934
Lunch
Usda - Lettuce, 20 g 3 1 0 0 6 39
Oil - Olive, 1.5 tsp 60 0 7 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 0.5 bulb 36 9 0 1 61 484
Pesce - Pesce Azzurro, 150 g 186 0 6 30 90 558
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 50 g 63 0 6 13 253 199
Emmentaler - Emmentaler, 1 oz 100 0 8 8 60 0
Wine - Table, white, 1 fl oz 20 0 0 0 1 24
Add Food Quick Tools 468 9 27 52 471 1,303
Dinner
Butter - Unsalted, 20 g 143 0 16 0 2 5
Generic - Bresaola, 24 g 36 1 1 8 383 56
Galbani - Provola, 26 gr 88 0 7 6 96 0
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Local - Fichi D'india, 150 g 80 20 0 1 2 285
Add Food Quick Tools 416 31 25 24 720 2,020
Morning Snack
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 300 g 159 40 1 2 6 498
Add Food Quick Tools 159 40 1 2 6 498
Evening Snack
Add Food Quick Tools
Totals 1,549 137 77 100 1,435 4,755
Your Food Diary For:
Friday, January 8, 2016
Breakfast Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Potass.
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Generic (Usda) - Olive Oil, 2 tsp(s) 79 0 9 0 0 0
Pears, raw, 200 g 114 30 0 1 2 232
Add Food Quick Tools 253 32 11 14 641 326
Lunch
Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 100 g 15 3 0 1 28 194
Oil - Olive, 1 tablespoon 119 0 14 0 0 0
Fennel, bulb, raw, 1 bulb 73 17 0 3 122 969
Fresh Sardines - Whole Fish, Raw, 100 g 126 0 11 25 505 397
Wine - Table, white, 200 g 136 2 0 0 10 160
Octopus - Common, raw, 6 oz 139 4 2 25 391 595
Add Food Quick Tools 608 25 27 55 1,056 2,315
Dinner
Prealpi - Burro Chiarificato, 4 gr 36 0 4 0 0 0
Tangerines, (mandarin oranges), raw, 150 g 80 20 0 1 3 249
Generic - Bresaola, 40 g 60 1 1 13 639 94
Spinach - Raw, 300 g 69 11 1 9 237 1,674
Add Food Quick Tools 245 32 7 23 879 2,017
Morning Snack
Andechser - Bio Kefir Mild, 400 gr 176 16 6 14 200 0
Add Food Quick Tools 176 16 6 14 200 0
Evening Snack
Covo - biscotti al burro con cioccolato al latte , 4 biscotto 280 35 13 4 0 0
Add Food Quick Tools 280 35 13 4 0 0
Totals 1,562 140 64 109 2,776 4,658
The same goes for HappyCampr.
yet those are my best days -as for potassium intake- in the last 90 (even if I must say I logged my food no more than 20 days in total), and the average is around 4000 mg. On the other hand, there are many data base entries simply lacking the potassium amount.
All in all, it is not easy but is doable (eating plenty of fruit and vegetables).0 -
Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
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vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
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suziecue20 wrote: »vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
I agree, the problem is once we being to label foods good and bad it sets its up for self destruction if we step out of the good food zone willingly or unwilling. That's something i just can't subscribe to.0 -
LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
I agree, the problem is once we being to label foods good and bad it sets its up for self destruction if we step out of the good food zone willingly or unwilling. That's something i just can't subscribe to.
No it doesn't set you up for self-destruction - you make choices, mine is lots of good, little bit of bad - you make things work your way.
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suziecue20 wrote: »LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
I agree, the problem is once we being to label foods good and bad it sets its up for self destruction if we step out of the good food zone willingly or unwilling. That's something i just can't subscribe to.
No it doesn't set you up for self-destruction - you make choices, mine is lots of good, little bit of bad - you make things work your way.
Initially you're probably right however I'm talking long term. And so you're clear I'm not anti processed food, I'm anti the good & bad food labelling. It's all fuel to me, I just choose the kind that makes me feel awesome, 90% of the time.0 -
LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
I agree, the problem is once we being to label foods good and bad it sets its up for self destruction if we step out of the good food zone willingly or unwilling. That's something i just can't subscribe to.
No it doesn't set you up for self-destruction - you make choices, mine is lots of good, little bit of bad - you make things work your way.
Initially you're probably right however I'm talking long term. And so you're clear I'm not anti processed food, I'm anti the good & bad food labelling. It's all fuel to me, I just choose the kind that makes me feel awesome, 90% of the time.
My OH says he relates to you but then he doesn't have a weight problem.
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Go ask a vegan, a vegetarian, a paleo dieter, a keto dieter, an IIFYM'er and an orthorexic what their definitions of "good" and "bad" foods are. Be sure to let us know what kind of consensus you reach.
Maybe then you'll understand why some say that "good" and "bad" are vague, arbitrary terms based entirely upon personal opinion. Dem feelz =/= science or common sense.0 -
suziecue20 wrote: »LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »LikeSeeds4Souls_ wrote: »suziecue20 wrote: »vaguelyvegan wrote: »Of course there are bad foods, items that are barely food at all but are food-like substances in pretty packages with pictures of actual food on the label but little to no nutritional value. In small amounts they may not kill you or even make you fat, but they are exactly the opposite of good. In other words, bad.
Exactly vaguelyvegan - all I am saying is for goodness sake people own up to the fact that not every foodstuff available to you is good for you.
I agree, the problem is once we being to label foods good and bad it sets its up for self destruction if we step out of the good food zone willingly or unwilling. That's something i just can't subscribe to.
No it doesn't set you up for self-destruction - you make choices, mine is lots of good, little bit of bad - you make things work your way.
Initially you're probably right however I'm talking long term. And so you're clear I'm not anti processed food, I'm anti the good & bad food labelling. It's all fuel to me, I just choose the kind that makes me feel awesome, 90% of the time.
My OH says he relates to you but then he doesn't have a weight problem.
You shouldn't have a weight problem eating like that, that's why I do it. Makes maintaining 10% bf year round pretty easy tbh.0 -
Good and bad are not vague terms, they are absolute. You can never have good without bad.0
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I agree, no one is disputing whether they're vague or not. Out of curiosity when you eat say a bad food and it wasn't planned, what are your initial thoughts?0
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suziecue20 wrote: »Good and bad are not vague terms, they are absolute. You can never have good without bad.
Then go ask a vegan and a keto dieter if they consider an all-natural, free-range organic chicken breast as good or bad. See how absolute your absolute is.0
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