The runners thread

dfields884

Yes, 16 minutes per mile or less. I'll update whatever I do. Always room for improvement.

KathyApplebaum

holothuroidea wrote: »

I've been running for a few years but I don't think I can call myself a runner yet.

I've only ever done 5k's (6 of them). I'm still no good at them. My PR is 38 minutes.

So why can't you call yourself a runner? A serious question. You run regularly, so you're a runner. Doesn't matter if you've only done a mile or a hundred, whether that 5K took 15 minutes or a hour.

holothuroidea

KathyApplebaum wrote: »

holothuroidea wrote: »

I've been running for a few years but I don't think I can call myself a runner yet.

I've only ever done 5k's (6 of them). I'm still no good at them. My PR is 38 minutes.

So why can't you call yourself a runner? A serious question. You run regularly, so you're a runner. Doesn't matter if you've only done a mile or a hundred, whether that 5K took 15 minutes or a hour.

I don't feel like a runner, I'm just a person who runs. I know runners. They run for fun, they run to relax, they run because it feels good to get to their goal. Running is none of those things for me. It is the most challenging and difficult activity I engage in, and I don't feel like I've reaped much reward for the effort I've been putting in.

I would love to feel that way about running, and I keep working at it. Maybe some day I will get there. Any advice would be appreciated.

HannaSusi

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

shaunroberts

Hey,
Love running! Its just these past 2 days that have made me realise how much. For a couple of weeks it was a slog. Everything ached. Now I zone out for 30 or 40 minutes. All the worries of the world melt away. Its just me, my music, the crisp cold night air and the pavement.

I'm in no way a fast runner and nor will I ever be. Just an easy 10min/mile.

The best thing is you don't have to compete with anyone but yourself if you don't want to.

I suffer quite badly with depression and anxiety. Running is the one thing that eases it and actually make me feel great again. Beats any anti depressants the doctor could ever prescribe.

Shaun.

glevinso

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

Don't listen to your friend. Best thing to do is go to a running store and tell them straight up you are new at this and need help. I have never been to a running store that wasn't happy to get people started with the right shoes.

Your friend's advice is a recipe for injury

marcelo_templario

shaunroberts wrote: »

Hey,
Love running! Its just these past 2 days that have made me realise how much. For a couple of weeks it was a slog. Everything ached. Now I zone out for 30 or 40 minutes. All the worries of the world melt away. Its just me, my music, the crisp cold night air and the pavement.

I'm in no way a fast runner and nor will I ever be. Just an easy 10min/mile.

The best thing is you don't have to compete with anyone but yourself if you don't want to.

I suffer quite badly with depression and anxiety. Running is the one thing that eases it and actually make me feel great again. Beats any anti depressants the doctor could ever prescribe.

Shaun.

There you go, running is a therapy...I wish I could work part time and run 3 hours a day minimum.

jacksonpt

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

IME, they don't matter until they do. And when they do, the wrong shoes can be a real problem.

Some people can get away with not being fitted - either they don't run enough for shoes to really matter, they are very typical in their stride/gait/foot so basic shoes are OK, they get lucky and get shoes that fit them well, etc. But that's not the case for a lot of people.

IMO, I'd rather spend $125 on good shoes that are well fitted than $80 on whatever I can find on clearance at amazon. Peace of mind matters (nothing worse than getting 3 miles into a 10 mile run and having joint issues start to creep up, which has been my problem in the past), and I like supporting a good, knowledgeable, helpful local shop (which I'm lucky enough to have near me).

holothuroidea

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

My first pair of shoes were fitted by a professional in a running store. I started having pain on the outside of my foot during runs so I looked at the wear pattern on the soles of those shoes and bought new shoes based on that info. That second pair of shoes was great and now it's the only type of running shoe I will use, I also use them for hiking when the weather and terrain permits because I will get the same pain on long hikes too if I don't wear supportive shoes.

I think when you're just starting out it's fine to wear whatever shoes you've got. After a while you will learn about your own individual running shoe needs. I wish I hadn't bought that first pair of shoes because they were expensive and only lasted me a couple months before I had to buy new shoes anyway. There's only so much a shoe store employee can learn about your gait in one visit, and you will learn more about your gait as you gain more experience running.

marcelo_templario

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

Your friends is near to truth but not so near as for beating knowledge nowadays, in past people did not run overweight, as a matter of fact no chubby runners made it to run...athletes were naturally slim, now, if somebody wants to run for improving his/her health, lose weight and tone, then probably is going to need the best shoes they recommend you, plus that..our feet had change over time because mixed genetic codes, making us prone to injuries.

Chaskis were mayan messengers who would run over 190 miles a day wearing sandals, but they were very light and kept a weight below the normal, also they ran 7 hours a day, every other day since the age of 14 or younger, so yes...they used their foot naturally but they neither wore shoes that made their feet flat, or spent 8 hours a day sitting.

Like somebody said above, wearing any shoes is a good recipe for a painful injury including 5th metatarsus fracture.

marcelo_templario

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

Your friends is near to truth but not so near as for beating knowledge nowadays, in past people did not run overweight, as a matter of fact no chubby runners made it to run...athletes were naturally slim, now, if somebody wants to run for improving his/her health, lose weight and tone, then probably is going to need the best shoes they recommend you, plus that..our feet had change over time because mixed genetic codes, making us prone to injuries.

Chaskis were mayan messengers who would run over 190 miles a day wearing sandals, but they were very light and kept a weight below the normal, also they ran 7 hours a day, every other day since the age of 14 or younger, so yes...they used their foot naturally but they neither wore shoes that made their feet flat, or spent 8 hours a day sitting.

Like somebody said above, wearing any shoes is a good recipe for a painful injury including 5th metatarsus fracture.

glevinso

marcelo_templario wrote: »

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

Your friends is near to truth but not so near as for beating knowledge nowadays, in past people did not run overweight, as a matter of fact no chubby runners made it to run...athletes were naturally slim, now, if somebody wants to run for improving his/her health, lose weight and tone, then probably is going to need the best shoes they recommend you, plus that..our feet had change over time because mixed genetic codes, making us prone to injuries.

Chaskis were mayan messengers who would run over 190 miles a day wearing sandals, but they were very light and kept a weight below the normal, also they ran 7 hours a day, every other day since the age of 14 or younger, so yes...they used their foot naturally but they neither wore shoes that made their feet flat, or spent 8 hours a day sitting.

Like somebody said above, wearing any shoes is a good recipe for a painful injury including 5th metatarsus fracture.

To cover 190 miles in a single 24 hour period you would be running 7:30 miles non-stop. I suspect something is wrong with your number here

marcelo_templario

glevinso wrote: »

marcelo_templario wrote: »

HannaSusi wrote: »

A possibly stupid question from a non-runner: I see a lot of talk about picking the right shoes for running. About actually going to a sports store and let a professional help you pick the shoes exactly right for you. Then there's my friend who's "sort of a runner", who swears that the best way to run is in shoes as old and sucky as possible because it allows you to use your own foot naturally.
Do the shoes really matter? What's this talk about natural running? If someone was to start running, what would be the minimum of equipment one should get?

Your friends is near to truth but not so near as for beating knowledge nowadays, in past people did not run overweight, as a matter of fact no chubby runners made it to run...athletes were naturally slim, now, if somebody wants to run for improving his/her health, lose weight and tone, then probably is going to need the best shoes they recommend you, plus that..our feet had change over time because mixed genetic codes, making us prone to injuries.

Chaskis were mayan messengers who would run over 190 miles a day wearing sandals, but they were very light and kept a weight below the normal, also they ran 7 hours a day, every other day since the age of 14 or younger, so yes...they used their foot naturally but they neither wore shoes that made their feet flat, or spent 8 hours a day sitting.

Like somebody said above, wearing any shoes is a good recipe for a painful injury including 5th metatarsus fracture.

To cover 190 miles in a single 24 hour period you would be running 7:30 miles non-stop. I suspect something is wrong with your number here

Tried to convert kms to miles by my own, 240 kms are 149.129 miles.

"The Chasqui relay system was so good, that they could take one day to run 250 miles. And run 1,250 miles in 5 days. The Romans thought 100 miles a day was good, but 250 miles is amazing"

Also I did not say a single chasqui would cover that distance all alone, but relay running. They used to run 7 hours a day....still amazing...

marcelo_templario

A downside of running...sudden urges to go...hahahaha, happened to me once only..there was a convenience store nearby with a toilet...when I run far from home I take:

-Cell phone
-TP
-Music player
-Pepper spray (for dogs)
-Sometimes a telescopic baton (for humans)
-Money (30 bucks)
-Watch
-A card (sometimes)
-Water bottle (rarely)

When I run the circuit...shorts, socks, shoes, watch, player and that's it.

ohiotubagal

holothuroidea wrote: »

I've been running for a few years but I don't think I can call myself a runner yet.

I've only ever done 5k's (6 of them). I'm still no good at them. My PR is 38 minutes. It is a sad state of affairs.

That's my PR too, and I'm proud of it! I hate to see people putting themselves down based on their times. We are still ahead of everyone sitting on the couch!! We run the same distance as the ones in the front.

Keep up the good work!