Which came first? Walking or Running?
kaylaashay
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I'm new to this so should I start walking and work my way up to Running or should I just start running ?
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If you're new to fitness/exercise, start with walking.0
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I started with walking and would run a few minutes at a time here and there. I gradually increased with the running. I started last March and can now nearly run a 10k!!! Never thought I'd even want to run but sure do enjoy it :-)0
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I started walking regularly, and then started and completed C25k. I can't reccommend it enough!0
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@annaheyoolay thanks0
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Ran first, and now walk. I started C25K and tweaked my knee. Took 6 weeks to really heal and working out sucked hard during that time
. Decided to start getting my heart rate up by incline walking. After I lose more weight, I'll try running again, but at 52 and obese, I think I'm just asking too much of my knees to run right now. YMMV. 0 -
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annaheyoolay wrote: »I started walking regularly, and then started and completed C25k. I can't reccommend it enough!
this is what i did. now i can run a slow 13 miles.0 -
Do whatever you want but be aware that statistically 70% of runners are injured annually. Walking is much easier on your limbs.0
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I also started with walking and then did C25K. The app is amazing! I was a non-runner. My husband always said he would only run if someone was chasing him. We both did C25K and we now actually like running. I did have to do some weeks several times, but if you stick to it 3x a week, you will run. I am proof hat it works. And beemerphile1 is right, runners do get injured. If you want to run, be sure you get a good pair of shoes. ($100-$200) A good pair of shoes will help prevent some injuries.0
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beemerphile1 wrote: »Do whatever you want but be aware that statistically 70% of runners are injured annually. Walking is much easier on your limbs.
Calling BS on these stats (there are lies, damn lies & statistics.....), the rate is much lower according to the NIH and between 50% and 75% of those injuries are from overuse (too much, too soon too fast) and running is not hard on your joints / limbs........
OP the correct answer depends on your current fitness level and your goals. If your current fitness level precludes running then walk, as your fitness improves start adding short, slow running intervals (one minute or so) and gradually add time to the running and less time walking. Most of your running should be at a conversational pace and don't try to build distance too quickly.....it's a marathon, not a sprint. Most importantly, have fun......you're doing this for you.
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When I first read the subject line I thought "Well, it depends on how fast the animal [that was chasing you] was." LOL
I have been thinking that it is time to start running...up until now I have only been a walker (unless something was chasing me - ha)0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »....statistically 70% of runners are injured annually.
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kaylaashay wrote: »I'm new to this so should I start walking and work my way up to Running or should I just start running ?
Entirely up to you and what your aspirations are.
If you an walk at a comfortable pace for thirty minutes then there is nothing stopping you from starting to run, although generally I stick to walking until I'm outside the house, then run...
There are plenty of plans out there to help get you running, or as described upthread, just go for it.0 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »....statistically 70% of runners are injured annually.
Source?
The most oft quoted source is the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation although I haven't seen the study. Apparently you must be a member. Lots of articles refer to this statistic and from this source.
Nevertheless, it is accepted that 100% of running injuries are caused by
running!
I am a runner myself but new people need to be aware that they will most likely have running related injuries. I only run a minimal amount in training but mostly walk for training/fitness. I primarily reserve running for the couple of races I participate in annually.0 -
For me: Walking. After surgery, I was told I needed to walk to get well. Started with 30 foot walks up and down the length of my deck. Expanded to around the block. Around two blocks. Around the "big Block" which measured one mile. To around town which measured three miles. Got to a 4 MPH clip. On vacation at Cape Cod, premeasured a 4 mile block past the beach. There, using my Garmin, started to walk a half mile, jog a half mile. Back home, continued the 4 mile circuit which included a path through the County Park and around a small pond. Got to the point where I average 11 minute miles for 6 miles.
In short, a short walk expended, over about a year, to a 10K. All without really trying that hard, just keep increasing distance as I felt I could.
Keep your pace and stride under control and there is a smaller chance if injury. DON'T over stride and keep your pace to a conversational one. Can ya talk while running? If not, slow down.0 -
what he said.....For me: Walking. After surgery, I was told I needed to walk to get well. Started with 30 foot walks up and down the length of my deck. Expanded to around the block. Around two blocks. Around the "big Block" which measured one mile. To around town which measured three miles. Got to a 4 MPH clip. On vacation at Cape Cod, premeasured a 4 mile block past the beach. There, using my Garmin, started to walk a half mile, jog a half mile. Back home, continued the 4 mile circuit which included a path through the County Park and around a small pond. Got to the point where I average 11 minute miles for 6 miles.
In short, a short walk expended, over about a year, to a 10K. All without really trying that hard, just keep increasing distance as I felt I could.
Keep your pace and stride under control and there is a smaller chance if injury. DON'T over stride and keep your pace to a conversational one. Can ya talk while running? If not, slow down.
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BrianSharpe wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »Do whatever you want but be aware that statistically 70% of runners are injured annually. Walking is much easier on your limbs.
Calling BS on these stats (there are lies, damn lies & statistics.....), the rate is much lower according to the NIH and between 50% and 75% of those injuries are from overuse (too much, too soon too fast) and running is not hard on your joints / limbs........
OP the correct answer depends on your current fitness level and your goals. If your current fitness level precludes running then walk, as your fitness improves start adding short, slow running intervals (one minute or so) and gradually add time to the running and less time walking. Most of your running should be at a conversational pace and don't try to build distance too quickly.....it's a marathon, not a sprint. Most importantly, have fun......you're doing this for you.
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beemerphile1 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »....statistically 70% of runners are injured annually.
Source?
The most oft quoted source is the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation although I haven't seen the study. Apparently you must be a member. Lots of articles refer to this statistic and from this source.
Nevertheless, it is accepted that 100% of running injuries are caused by
running!
I am a runner myself but new people need to be aware that they will most likely have running related injuries. I only run a minimal amount in training but mostly walk for training/fitness. I primarily reserve running for the couple of races I participate in annually.
That is not accurate. Here's a study I found with very little work (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26726004). They are looking at the cost of injury, but in a program for new runners (Start2Run) 26.1% reported pain from running that prevented them from running for at least 3 training sessions. I think pain/discomfort, the need to take it slow are common. We need to be careful about throwing around the word 'injury'. That doesn't mean 26% of those people were 'injured' and couldn't perform their jobs, it just means they experienced pain that prevented them from running. And these were brand new runners. One might expect once you get past the new stage the percentage would drop, although there could be other risk factors to injury (age, weight, etc.)
As a sometimes-runner, the only thing I will caution is, you should run because you want to run. I see too many people think it will be the magic bullet for weight loss. I can burn the same amount of calories walking for 60 minutes that I would if I jogged for 50 minutes. It can save you time, but if you are slow and new at it not a lot. Also some people find the increase in intensity will increase their appetite in a way walking won't. But if you are interested in becoming a runner, I think it's great to pursue. For me personally I walked first. I think that created a better aerobic fitness baseline and doing both has allowed me decent calorie burn so I don't need to 'rely' on just the running.
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blues4miles wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »MeanderingMammal wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »....statistically 70% of runners are injured annually.
Source?
The most oft quoted source is the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation although I haven't seen the study. Apparently you must be a member. Lots of articles refer to this statistic and from this source.
Nevertheless, it is accepted that 100% of running injuries are caused by
running!
I am a runner myself but new people need to be aware that they will most likely have running related injuries. I only run a minimal amount in training but mostly walk for training/fitness. I primarily reserve running for the couple of races I participate in annually.
That is not accurate. Here's a study I found with very little work (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26726004). They are looking at the cost of injury, but in a program for new runners (Start2Run) 26.1% reported pain from running that prevented them from running for at least 3 training sessions. I think pain/discomfort, the need to take it slow are common. We need to be careful about throwing around the word 'injury'. That doesn't mean 26% of those people were 'injured' and couldn't perform their jobs, it just means they experienced pain that prevented them from running. And these were brand new runners. One might expect once you get past the new stage the percentage would drop, although there could be other risk factors to injury (age, weight, etc.)...
1,696 runners reported 272 injuries in a 6 week period which has little relevance to injuries over a year's time. Should we multiply that 6 week number to a 52 week number? That potentially could be 1,696 runners reporting 2,357 injuries in a year's time. 272 divided by 6 weeks times 52 weeks = 2,357 Of course some runners will be injured multiple times and some will not be injured at all but the overall percentage of injured runners for a year would likely be much higher than new runners followed for only six weeks.
The injury rate probably spikes at the very beginning but frequency would also increase the likelihood of injury. If you drive a given route every day for a year the likelihood of an accident is much greater when considering a year than one day. Six weeks is just not enough of a sample to be meaningful when comparing to a study that is speaking about annual rates.
The AAPMR study used a different definition of an injury than your extreme definition of missing work. Their criteria was also less stringent than the study you linked. The AAPMR study that reported the 70% rate considered a person injured if it caused them to take a planned workout day off from running due to pain.
Like I said, I am a runner, have been for over 40 years. I don't want to discourage anyone from a sport that I find enjoyable but we need to be honest about the high injury rate in runners. This is particularly important for an overweight person with minimal history of physical activity.
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BrianSharpe wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »Do whatever you want but be aware that statistically 70% of runners are injured annually. Walking is much easier on your limbs.
Calling BS on these stats (there are lies, damn lies & statistics.....), the rate is much lower according to the NIH and between 50% and 75% of those injuries are from overuse (too much, too soon too fast) and running is not hard on your joints / limbs........
OP the correct answer depends on your current fitness level and your goals. If your current fitness level precludes running then walk, as your fitness improves start adding short, slow running intervals (one minute or so) and gradually add time to the running and less time walking. Most of your running should be at a conversational pace and don't try to build distance too quickly.....it's a marathon, not a sprint. Most importantly, have fun......you're doing this for you.
I am in with what this says..
I started couch to walking, walking to brisk walking, brisk walking to light jogging and light jogging to running 3-4 miles a day seasonally out doors and indoors in the winter.... I mix up training as I also strength train which I think helps immensely for a runner.
You will have to assess your own body, your own fitness and read what you see .. well take everything with a grain of salt. Safety is 100% the most important thing, so you did the right thing by asking the question...
You do it as slow as you need to and listen to your entire body, it will tell you something if it needs to say something about what you are doing to it...0 -
"Like I said, I am a runner, have been for over 40 years."
Over those 40 years, how many time have you been injured?0 -
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c25k all the way!
I used to hate running, but when I broke my hand last spring I needed a new goal since weights and many of my weight/cardio videos were out for those 6 weeks. I used the app and just like that, I did a 5k and now actually LIKE to run.
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i say go for a run. just go, no app or anything. run for a bit, stop and walk, start running again, etc. don't over think it, and before you know it you'll be running for 20 minutes straight.0
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beemerphile1 wrote: »The most oft quoted source is the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation although I haven't seen the study. Apparently you must be a member. Lots of articles refer to this statistic and from this source.
So a statistic is all very well, but to me I'm questioning what does that statistic tell me, and what is the data based on?
You have later articulated the definition of injury involves missing training. That threshold is very low as some people might miss training because of what's essentially DOMS, rather than an injury. I'd also ask the question of what caused the injury?
So if we categorise running injuries we may consider those that are a result of an accident whilst running; sprains, cuts and bruises, twisted ankles and potentially even breaks. Now what proportion of the reported injuries come from that category? I'm a trail runner, that makes my risk of those somewhat higher. The worst was falling and banging my head, which led to concussion.
We might see those that are essentially overuse, so entirely within the runners control; Illotibial Band Syndrome, Achilles tendonitis, shin splints. All preventable by managing training load and not increasing mileage too quickly.
Perhaps equipment related? Shoes that are inappropriate for the runner, or worn out. Not much that can be done around that other than be aware of the pains and niggles that might indicate a need to replace.
We might see those that relate to running form,or trying to modify running form based on some half baked advice on a forum. Again, being aware of the pains and niggles is the answer.
With the latter two categories then new runners are most at risk. They don't know when a niggle is just adaptation to running or an indicator of a need to back off, or replace shoes. Of course the niggle might in itself be the reason they don't train. So not injured, per se, merely cautious.
Then of course there is the other dimension. No other sport is risk free.
Cycling can contribute to ITBS, swimmers end up with rotator cuff injuries, raquet sports can lead to RSI injuries, as can lifting, rowing or sailing can contribute to early onset arthritis.
Starkly quoting an out of context statistic isn't particularly beneficial to the originator.
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When I run I get running injuries. When I do taekwondo I get taekwondo injuries. Any high impact sport has a risk of injuries. Walking has a lower risk of injury but it doesn't burn as many calories and doesn't give such a good "after glow" IMHO.0
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_runnerbean_ wrote: »When I run I get running injuries. When I do taekwondo I get taekwondo injuries. Any high impact sport has a risk of injuries. Walking has a lower risk of injury but it doesn't burn as many calories and doesn't give such a good "after glow" IMHO.
Bingo, the question was walking or running. The fact is that running will have a much higher rate of injury than walking regardless of some posters trying to obfuscate the fact with over analyzing.0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »_runnerbean_ wrote: »When I run I get running injuries. When I do taekwondo I get taekwondo injuries. Any high impact sport has a risk of injuries. Walking has a lower risk of injury but it doesn't burn as many calories and doesn't give such a good "after glow" IMHO.
Bingo, the question was walking or running. The fact is that running will have a much higher rate of injury than walking regardless of some posters trying to obfuscate the fact with over analyzing.
Or trying to put off someone who aspires to run by excessive dumbing down.0
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