High fat los carb

bellabonbons
bellabonbons Posts: 705 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I know that losing weight is easy on the low carb high fat diet. No need to count calories and the pounds fall off. Has anyone used this diet and had blood work afterwards to check cholesterol and lippid values ? Thanks.
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  • Expatmommy79
    Expatmommy79 Posts: 940 Member
    Nope. You still have to count calories.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Restricting carbohydrates is just another way to create a calorie deficit. It's one that some people do find very successful though -- but typically only if they can maintain it.
  • GsKiki
    GsKiki Posts: 392 Member
    Weight loss is calories in vs calories out.
    You should be eating balanced diet, and as far as "low this, high that" goes find what works for you.
    I personally eat moderately everything, and it works great for me.

    Which ever way you choose, you still need to create calorie deficit to lose weight.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    A slight calorie deficit is still needed in order to lose weight on a LCHF diet. For many it seems easier because their appetite drops and carb cravings are reduced so eating less is simple. For some the diet just seems to agree with them and they can lose weight with a smaller deficit; this seems to be mainly true for those with some sort of insulin resistance.

    Good luck.
  • Lucille4444
    Lucille4444 Posts: 284 Member
    I know that losing weight is easy on the low carb high fat diet. No need to count calories and the pounds fall off.

    It is not easy. After some initial fast loss of water weight, one loses according to calorie deficit. I do low carb/keto and I count calories. I've had a slow but steady loss.
    Everyone is different and no one way of eating is good for everyone. I chose low carb because for me, what I eat makes me feel less hungry.

  • frantzcr
    frantzcr Posts: 129 Member
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.
  • frantzcr
    frantzcr Posts: 129 Member
    Bloodwork haha
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss
  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    wrong, low carb by itself does nothing for fat loss in the absence of a caloric deficit

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  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    Above flow chart would be correct for the old-school Atkins low carb, high protein, high fat, but now we have learned that low-carb, MODERATE protein, high fat is much better. Excess protein converts to sugar which ends up as fat. :)
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    wrong, low carb by itself does nothing for fat loss in the absence of a caloric deficit

    12246613_10156305096450441_6855745480267156969_n.jpg?oh=06917e7124e632dc4b9d2d41ff72535d&oe=56FA78F7

    I love this chart!
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.
  • HutchA12
    HutchA12 Posts: 279 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.

    Couldn't that be from people being mindful and not over eating on possibly calorie dense foods. Then the LCHF diet just happens to to happen at the same time they start to pay attention.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Couldn't what be? You will note the non specific, non sourced thrust of "some positive effects"

    No point in discussing when it's made up info to support feels

    That chart is pretty good though ...
  • vivmom2014
    vivmom2014 Posts: 1,649 Member
    What's your definition of "easy"?? I tried low carb back in the day, and no way could I sustain it.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.

    I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.
  • vivmom2014
    vivmom2014 Posts: 1,649 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Couldn't what be? You will note the non specific, non sourced thrust of "some positive effects"

    No point in discussing when it's made up info to support feels

    That chart is pretty good though ...

    This. Exactly.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.

    I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.

    I've been here a while

    I have never encountered any study posted that shows this

    Please do link...I do like to read the source material where possible
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    wrong, low carb by itself does nothing for fat loss in the absence of a caloric deficit

    12246613_10156305096450441_6855745480267156969_n.jpg?oh=06917e7124e632dc4b9d2d41ff72535d&oe=56FA78F7

    This is fantastic!
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    edited January 2016
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.

    I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.

    I've been here a while

    I have never encountered any study posted that shows this

    Please do link...I do like to read the source material where possible
    I'm sorry that's not something I'll do any longer -- it's a complete waste of my time. If you're interested in the topic Google will readily throw up the results for you.

    Edited to add quote.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.

    So, #5 in the chart above? makes sense then. The chart that is.

  • neohdiver
    neohdiver Posts: 738 Member
    Nope. You still have to count calories.

    You may not have to count calories. But if you aren't losing weight on a low carb/high fat diet, it hasn't created a calorie deficit for you - and then if your goal is to reduce weight (rather than control blood sugar - for example) then you will also need to count calories.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Ah

    Ok I've read enough background work to support my view that low carb is simply a matter of personal choice and holds no specific benefits over low fat or the broader CICO umbrella, if you can't be bothered that's fine by me
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    HutchA12 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.

    Couldn't that be from people being mindful and not over eating on possibly calorie dense foods. Then the LCHF diet just happens to to happen at the same time they start to pay attention.

    That is possible, but so is improved health for some on a calorie matched low carb diet. Triglycerides tend to go down, HDL goes up, LP a improves, LDL tends to convert to pattern A, insulin resistance improves and blood sugars drop, skin can clear up and cognitive functions improve.

    I feel healthier on a low carb diet. I can eat 2000-2500 calories per day, not exercise and not gain anything. My blood glucose stays good unless I eat carbs. No more reactive hypoglycaemia... All good for me.
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Couldn't what be? You will note the non specific, non sourced thrust of "some positive effects"

    No point in discussing when it's made up info to support feels

    That chart is pretty good though ...

    The feels? Right.
    _Terrapin_ wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.

    So, #5 in the chart above? makes sense then. The chart that is.

    Could be true for some things. Maybe why I am often not hungry likeI used to get. It wouldn't explain lab improvements or clearer skin or other health improvements... Could help explain increased happiness...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    It's not necessary to consume 50% over the rda of fat...

    Calorie deficit is all you need for weight loss
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Eating low carb is easiER for me for weight loss, only because the constant hunger and cravings have pretty much disappeared. But I still have to weigh, count and log my calories.
    You can absolutely gain weight eating this way, especially if you don't keep the above points in check.. Calories don't magically disappear on a low carb/keto diet.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    frantzcr wrote: »
    I am on this diet and while I have not done any bloodworm I have been obtaining other measurements. It has had a positive effect of my metabolic age, bone density, visceral fat around the organs and percent body fat.

    That's the weight loss

    Some positive health effects from a LCHF diet can be seen before any significant weight loss occurs. Health benefits can often be seen in optimal weight individuals who switch to a LCHF diet even when there is no weight loss.

    Any diet that results in weight loss and improved body comp will result in better health markers...even the Twinkie diet improved health markers, because weight loss.

    Lchf isn't necessary for anything, it is just a way to get into a calorie deficit
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    From what I can see these health markers attritibutable to low carb as opposed to weight loss are the equivalent of toxins for detox

    Vague and unsubstantiated but constantly repeated in the hope that constant repetition is in itself persuasive

  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    edited January 2016
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  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    I think it is pretty cool science can stop and be reversed. Someone stops losing weight at 1500 calories but changes nothing and increases their calorie up to 67% above maintenance and not gain weight, all while not exercising. This is unreal.
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