High fat los carb
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As a low carb dieter/keto due to Dr. request for medical issues, it's not easier, at least for me. I still count calories. I still work out. It's not magic. In fact, some days it's really hard. Some weeks I don't lose anything at all and some weeks I drop 4 lbs overnight. Which incidentally was the exact same thing that happened when I just did moderation and ate all the things.
That's my n=1. Weight loss is hard for me because of said medical issues, but it's not impossible. When my hubby sticks to low carb, he drops weight super fast. He lost 70 lbs in three months. And that has nothing to do with cutting sugar/potatoes, and everything to do with the fact that on low carb he goes from eating 3000 calories a day to 1500. He's currently switched to just plain CICO so he can have his late night frosted mini wheat fix. He's dropped 5 more lbs.
Please don't do a low carb diet because you think it's magic and instant weight loss. It's not. If you can cut starches and sugar for the rest of your life and be happy with that choice, by all means try it. I'm perfectly happy most days scarfing down bacon, other meats, and grilled veggies drenched in butter. My husband was miserable. It's not for everyone.0 -
PeculiarLou wrote: »bellabonbons wrote: »I know that losing weight is easy on the low carb high fat diet. No need to count calories and the pounds fall off. Has anyone used this diet and had blood work afterwards to check cholesterol and lippid values ? Thanks.
Check out the low carb group, you might actually get an answer to your original question....http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
OP's question was answered….Yes, you still have to count calories, and LCHF is not a magical weight loss solution that melts fat off any faster than any other calorie deficit.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
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Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit?
So you're losing 10 pounds per month? 0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit? So you're losing 10 pounds per month?
How are you not at goal yet ?
You were like 140 months ago0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit? So you're losing 10 pounds per month?
2,600 is on particularly active days, normal days are around 2,300, sedentary days 2,000ish. I do eat some of my exercise calories back, so usually total around 1700-2000 calories.
I've only got a few kgs to lose, give or take. Still not 100% set on my goal weight.. I'm losing a little over .5kgs a week, which i think is 1.1lbs?? Should be done and dusted by mid Feb. I am completely over dieting, i want it over with asap!!0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit? So you're losing 10 pounds per month?
How are you not at goal yet ?
You were like 140 months ago
My archaic ooold scale weighed me 4-6kgs less than I was. I knew it was off, as the weight did not match my body at all, which is why I got a new scale. I also put on a few kgs in there somewhere, right now I'm 149lbs0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
So, because you are within 10 pounds of goal......BMR for a 43YO female, 149 pounds, 32% BF(sorry had to guess), 5 foot 8 inches, is 1340. So, if BMR is 1340 and your TDEE is hovering around 2600 you must be doing a great deal of activity. 2 hours of brisk walking at 150 pounds(flat and firm surface 3.5 mph) you'd burn 600 + calories. This would leave you with 600 additional calories for TEF(thermic effect of food) which is only about 100-140 calories for you. So, while it is a stretch to hit 2600 TDEE it is not impossible. At this activity level and consuming closer to 2,000 calories a day you'd create a deficit of 600 calories. About a pound, give or take a week, each week, which means, roughly, 9 weeks to drop the 10 pounds you are aiming for.
So:
BMR 1340
Walk 600+ (2 hours daily//3.5 mph//flat and firm surface)
TEF 140 (thermic effect of food is roughly 5-7% of your calories)
Total 2080
Leaves a balance of 500+ to burn through NEAT(Non exercise activity thermo)
This is everyday.
Now, if you had greater muscle mass and less BF(body fat) you'd be able to hit this a little easier. Again, I assumed 32%. You may already be lower then this or higher. BMR would be higher due to increase in muscle mass and your NEAT would pop a little too because of the muscle. So guess what? You probably need to start doing resistance training. Surprise! BMR number came through iifym.com; TEF is an approximation, the balance of the numbers you've provided in the past. Vio con dios.
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Not sure exactly why I'm posting this. This isn't even my thread lol And OP is long gone...0
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Christine_72 wrote: »Not sure exactly why I'm posting this. This isn't even my thread lol And OP is long gone...
Because it is important in the context of what you are attempting. I'm not sure the OP is going to care. My math is all English(American) I can't Australian well but the kilos looks like 10 miles. So, could fitbit be 'a little high'? Again, I'm not saying impossible. It is a boatload of work. Do you this 1 day a week or every day? And don't worry, nobody is going to read this. It is an open forum but ignore that part.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Not sure exactly why I'm posting this. This isn't even my thread lol And OP is long gone...
Because it is important in the context of what you are attempting. I'm not sure the OP is going to care. My math is all English(American) I can't Australian well but the kilos looks like 10 miles. So, could fitbit be 'a little high'? Again, I'm not saying impossible. It is a boatload of work. Do you this 1 day a week or every day? And don't worry, nobody is going to read this. It is an open forum but ignore that part.
haha okay, just between you and me then.
I do this 7 days a week. Of course I have a slack day every now and then, but very rarely.
Definitely yes!! I was suss about the high numbers too.. So I shaved a couple of centimetres off my height and stride length and also 2kgs off my actual weight, which didn't make a very noticeable difference.
But your math above is pretty spot on, I'm losing a little more than 1lb a week. No idea what my BF% is.
I don't talk American either. Ounces, pounds, inches, feet,gallons etc mean nothing to me. But because I'm on an American site I try and make the effort to talk your numbers. My conversion calculator gets quite the work out!
Edited: due to a million spelling errors. I'm walking right now, makes it hard to read, type and make sense all at the same time...
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Wow! A mountain of educated knowledge and advice. Much much appreciated and valued!!!0
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Christine_72 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Not sure exactly why I'm posting this. This isn't even my thread lol And OP is long gone...
Because it is important in the context of what you are attempting. I'm not sure the OP is going to care. My math is all English(American) I can't Australian well but the kilos looks like 10 miles. So, could fitbit be 'a little high'? Again, I'm not saying impossible. It is a boatload of work. Do you this 1 day a week or every day? And don't worry, nobody is going to read this. It is an open forum but ignore that part.
haha okay, just between you and me then. I do this 7 days a week. Of course I have a slack day every now and then, but very rarely.
Definitely yes!! I was suss about the high numbers too.. So I shaved a couple of centimetres off my height and stride length and also 2kgs off my actual weight, which didn't make a very noticeable difference.
But your math above is pretty spot on, I'm losing a little more than 1lb a week. No idea what my BF% is.
I don't talk American either. Ounces, pounds, inches, feet,gallons etc mean nothing to me. But because I'm on an American site I try and make the effort to talk your numbers. My conversion calculator gets quite the work out!
Edited: due to a million spelling errors. I'm walking right now, makes it hard to read, type and make sense all at the same time...
The only Imperial I know is butter...the whole measuring in this or that throws me once in a while. A stone is 14 pounds....stuff like that. Okay, so at 2,200 calories being consumed you are losing about a pound a week. So, roughly 9 weeks. This assumes this scale works and you continue your walking. A little resistance on the front and back end of the 10 miles will help with the other stuff not mentioned in this thread. 'other tuff' is what you'd like to tighten up. Keep going. You can re-comp your body at 140. BTW, that is a crap ton(American for lots, oodles, many, more then a few) of walking. Well done.
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Christine_72 wrote: »blankiefinder wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit? So you're losing 10 pounds per month?
2,600 is on particularly active days, normal days are around 2,300, sedentary days 2,000ish. I do eat some of my exercise calories back, so usually total around 1700-2000 calories.
I've only got a few kgs to lose, give or take. Still not 100% set on my goal weight.. I'm losing a little over .5kgs a week, which i think is 1.1lbs?? Should be done and dusted by mid Feb. I am completely over dieting, i want it over with asap!!
I do around 18,000 steps a day and earn close to 1000 calories from Fitbit on top of my MFP 1200 limit.
I eat 50-75% of the exercise calories back, which means I get to eat lots!
I don't need low carb to make me feel less hungry. I'm not hungry.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.
I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.
I think pretty much any dietary approach that is going to move away from the SAD is going to show improved health markers. I don't follow anything remotely close to keto or low carb and I've had numerous health markers improved...I eat a substantially plant based diet to include plenty of whole grains, starches, veggies, and fruit.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »blankiefinder wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Because larger or more active people don't get hunger relative to their size/activity?
Its hard to compare a 3000 calorie diet to a 1400 My TDEE is 2,600. So not inactiveChristine_72 wrote: »Under a nutritionist's care I was told to eat high protein, low carb, with a calorie deficit. I still have to count my calories; I still need to eat lots of veggies. Her explanation of this has not been that carbs are bad for weight loss, but rather the protein and fat are better at filling me up so that I am better able to maintain my calorie deficit. I have not been told to cut out carbs, but rather to carefully choose which carbs are worth it and which aren't as I try to reach my calorie goal. You can totally lose weight eating only spaghetti and toast, as long as you stay below your calorie goal. But you're going to be hungry.
I eat plenty of carbs and have no issues with hunger
I wouldn't either if i got to eat over 3,000 calories...
Not sure what that has to do with anything...you said carbs make you hungry and now you are moving the goalposts and saying its calorie intake level....
When you've only got 1440 calories to play with, like myself, you can bet I'm going to find the easiest way to comfortably hit my calories. When you're dealing with cravings and almost constant hunger like I was, it was incredibly hard and stressful to hit a deficit.
Once I hit maintenance, which according to fitbit is between 2,300 and 2,600 calories i will no doubt play around with my macros, but until then I'm sticking to the easy way, which for me has been reducing my carbs. I put off trying this woe for years because i never thought I could do it, but it has been relatively effortless for me, I wish started it from the get go.
I've never made any miraculous health claims about low carb, because I have no health issues and i try not to talk about or advise about things i have no experience in....
The ONE and ONLY reason I'm doing low carb is because it's taken away that annoying hunger and constantly thinking about the next meal away, Simple as that
Christine, you're running an 1160 calorie daily deficit? So you're losing 10 pounds per month?
2,600 is on particularly active days, normal days are around 2,300, sedentary days 2,000ish. I do eat some of my exercise calories back, so usually total around 1700-2000 calories.
I've only got a few kgs to lose, give or take. Still not 100% set on my goal weight.. I'm losing a little over .5kgs a week, which i think is 1.1lbs?? Should be done and dusted by mid Feb. I am completely over dieting, i want it over with asap!!
I do around 18,000 steps a day and earn close to 1000 calories from Fitbit on top of my MFP 1200 limit.
I eat 50-75% of the exercise calories back, which means I get to eat lots!
I don't need low carb to make me feel less hungry. I'm not hungry.
That's nice Which is why there's not one size fits all when it comes to different eating styles. What suits you may not suit me, and vice versa.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.
I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.
I think pretty much any dietary approach that is going to move away from the SAD is going to show improved health markers. I don't follow anything remotely close to keto or low carb and I've had numerous health markers improved...I eat a substantially plant based diet to include plenty of whole grains, starches, veggies, and fruit.
I actually agree with that. There was an interesting study recently on degree of insulin resistance and weight loss on a low carb diet that didn't show the same results previous studies did. Diet quality was listed as a confounder because they insisted on high quality, nutritious foods for all groups.
Some of the improvements we see in low carb study after low carb study could very well have nothing to do with macros and might be from the foods the low carb dieters aren't eating. That's not the whole story, of course, but it could be part of the reason. My diet before going low carb included more vegetables, fruits, oats, beans and whole grains than what I eat now so in that sense many would feel the quality of my diet has decreased but my health is improved.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Eating low carb is easiER for me for weight loss, only because the constant hunger and cravings have pretty much disappeared. But I still have to weigh, count and log my calories.
You can absolutely gain weight eating this way, especially if you don't keep the above points in check.. Calories don't magically disappear on a low carb/keto diet.
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Cholesterol numbers dropped drastically.
High fiber/High good carbs. Barley, lentils, beans, high fiber cereal. Best: Exercise. Fruits and veggies.0 -
bellabonbons wrote: »I know that losing weight is easy on the low carb high fat diet. No need to count calories and the pounds fall off. Has anyone used this diet and had blood work afterwards to check cholesterol and lippid values ? Thanks.
You definitely have to count calories even on low carb. The first week is water weight that falls off which usually is a high number. After that it's fat. If you're over-consuming though you won't lose anything but water weight.0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »It's not made up to support feels. There are studies -- that have been posted numerous times -- that show improved health markers from a low carb diet with little to no weight loss.
I do agree there's no point in discussing it though.
I think pretty much any dietary approach that is going to move away from the SAD is going to show improved health markers. I don't follow anything remotely close to keto or low carb and I've had numerous health markers improved...I eat a substantially plant based diet to include plenty of whole grains, starches, veggies, and fruit.
I actually agree with that. There was an interesting study recently on degree of insulin resistance and weight loss on a low carb diet that didn't show the same results previous studies did. Diet quality was listed as a confounder because they insisted on high quality, nutritious foods for all groups.
Some of the improvements we see in low carb study after low carb study could very well have nothing to do with macros and might be from the foods the low carb dieters aren't eating. That's not the whole story, of course, but it could be part of the reason. My diet before going low carb included more vegetables, fruits, oats, beans and whole grains than what I eat now so in that sense many would feel the quality of my diet has decreased but my health is improved.
I wonder this as well (also for the anecdotal experiences we read on the forums).0
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