You're not "special"

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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXEHUVEd6A

    thanks for reminding me.

    I totally, totally am.

    trust me.

    Now 1980 was a great year because great things happened. It's why I'm so special.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXEHUVEd6A

    thanks for reminding me.

    I totally, totally am.

    trust me.

    Now 1980 was a great year because great things happened. It's why I'm so special.

    aw :flowerforyou:
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Fad dieting nearly killed me.

    Low fat blew out my gallbladder. It was suggested by my sister, the doctor. "Stay under 20 grams of fat." Yeah.

    Low carb made me insane. :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :huh:

    Meridia (RX weight loss pill) caused my heart to flutter around and put me in the hospital with an endocrine system crash.

    Orlistat: RX name of Alli, caused me to have caustic, burny liqui-poos. No spank you. :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway:

    ViSalis Shakes (loaded with Splenda) gave me migraines for months until a good physician's assistant diagnosed the problem.

    Now I just eat right, journal my food and exercise. I should write a book.

    Oh that's scary!
    This time around, you're doing it right though. :flowerforyou:

    I'm ashamed to admit that I also tried a fad. You know the "cleansing" drink, water, lemon, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. You're supposed to drink only that for 10 days. After 5, I ended up at the hospital. i couldn't stop throwing up and totally messed up my stomach and guts. Never again. Lesson learned.

    Hmmm? This sounds familiar? this sounds like the experience of another "gentleman and scholar" on another thread who had tummy troubles shortly after trying various "fasting" techniques. Hmmm? So mystery solved. Fasting=mysterious broken tummy.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Fad dieting nearly killed me.

    Low fat blew out my gallbladder. It was suggested by my sister, the doctor. "Stay under 20 grams of fat." Yeah.

    Low carb made me insane. :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :bigsmile: :huh:

    Meridia (RX weight loss pill) caused my heart to flutter around and put me in the hospital with an endocrine system crash.

    Orlistat: RX name of Alli, caused me to have caustic, burny liqui-poos. No spank you. :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway:

    ViSalis Shakes (loaded with Splenda) gave me migraines for months until a good physician's assistant diagnosed the problem.

    Now I just eat right, journal my food and exercise. I should write a book.

    Oh that's scary!
    This time around, you're doing it right though. :flowerforyou:

    I'm ashamed to admit that I also tried a fad. You know the "cleansing" drink, water, lemon, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. You're supposed to drink only that for 10 days. After 5, I ended up at the hospital. i couldn't stop throwing up and totally messed up my stomach and guts. Never again. Lesson learned.

    Hmmm? This sounds familiar? this sounds like the experience of another "gentleman and scholar" on another thread who had tummy troubles shortly after trying various "fasting" techniques. Hmmm? So mystery solved. Fasting=mysterious broken tummy.

    I think we finally have our answer though it will never come from the horse's mouth.
  • melindasuefritz
    melindasuefritz Posts: 3,509 Member
    But... my mommy says I'm special...








    ps, I agree. Just thought I should throw that in there.
  • harphy
    harphy Posts: 290 Member
    I'm ashamed to admit that I also tried a fad. You know the "cleansing" drink, water, lemon, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. You're supposed to drink only that for 10 days. After 5, I ended up at the hospital. i couldn't stop throwing up and totally messed up my stomach and guts. Never again. Lesson learned.

    Oh, s***!:noway:
    Just...unbelievable.
  • KenosFeoh
    KenosFeoh Posts: 1,837 Member
    The current fad sweeping through my circle of aquaintances is Whole30. I don't even know what that is. I'm still struggling to keep a lid on my calorie count; that's the hardest thing for me.
  • NormInv
    NormInv Posts: 3,303 Member
    Think NROLW is one of those money-making machines.
  • Warchortle
    Warchortle Posts: 2,197 Member
    Blanket statements... all kinds of fallacies. If people weren't unique the same exact diet and exercise routine would work for everyone.
  • jasonpclement
    jasonpclement Posts: 146 Member
    I hate to say....I wanted to like the whole, high fat, low carb this and that paleo organic hippie primal w/e BS. Did it for 2 years and lied to myself that it was necessary.

    What worked better...meeting my macronutrient goals and eating whatever the heck I want. Still eat plenty of fruit and veggies, and tons of meat. But also, icecream, protein bars...Beer (OMG).... My jiu jitsu performance is much better, all my lifts are going up, and I'm not nearly as moody :)

    The difference...Its really easy to overeat fat, and its really hard to get full without sufficient carbohydrates, especially if your a super active individual. Eat what you like, and make it fit your numbers. Sufficient protein/carbs/fat are needed.

    Its really hard to get satisfied on a super high carb low fat diet. And its really hard to get satisfied on a super high fat low carb diet. As with most things, the answer is most definitely in the middle somewhere.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    Yes I am D:<
    One of my cousins tried pulling off losing weight on body by Vi and kept trying to get me to try it. The first week she was soooo happy that she lost 8 pounds, since that week, she has not posted anymore updates on weightloss and how into she was anymore. :s

    I see this lots too. Lots of loud bragging and being a dedicated spokesperson for a product for a week, maybe a month and then... crickets. It is getting tiresome. Just because I am losing weight myself does not mean that I want to be continually pestered to try this steady stream of Dr. OZ miracle fat blasting pills/shakes and plans. :grumble: This week alone I've been bombarded by Herbalife, HCG and Vislaus proponents. :noway: Thank goodness for you common sense people on here or I'd think sometimes that the whole world's gone crazy.:drinker:

    Oh yes, I noticed that too about the Body by Vi. A friend was flooding my daily Facebook feed with spam. Then, he stopped and one day wrote something like "for personal reasons, I will no longer represent Visalus". Duh!
  • swillybay
    swillybay Posts: 61 Member
    I love this. I have been doing this (MFP) since JANUARY. I have lost 11 lbs. (goal is to lose 16), and people are just now starting to notice. They ask HOW DID YOU DO IT???!!! like I showed up today and lost 11 lbs. since yesterday. I say I just counted calories, watched what I ate and exercised. They look at me like I'm lying...I also tell them I DIDN'T give up ice cream, pizza, cookies, just ate them in moderation and counted the calories and nutrients. Then they look away like I'm an idiot and that can't POSSIBLY be the truth. It makes me laugh. It is going to take me a year (I predict) to lose these total 16 lbs., but I also predict they will stay off since I've changed my whole way of thinking about food and eating and have not starved myself, given up my favorite foods or taken any fad diet powders, etc. I am not to my goal yet, but I am confident I will get there. I am not "special" as far as my diet goes, just determined. I still watch some of my friends lose and gain and lose and gain and tell me "I can't eat carbs," or "I'm on the Q-10 diet" or "I no longer eat sugar" or "I only eat clean" or whatever. I hope it works for them - I just know this is the only way that works for me (and for sustainable weight loss in most people that I know...) Will power only lasts for so long....
  • victoriasnow
    victoriasnow Posts: 111 Member
    Could not agree more! I was a victim to special diet fads when i first started working out, but it all came down to the same thing.. CALORIE INTAKE VS CALORIES BURNED! once i started tracking everything is when i seen the changes. im so happy to say that i am now supplement free (except for my whey protein isolate.. trying to grow some muscles! haha) & i do not use ANY "special" diet fad. :)
  • chanel1twenty
    chanel1twenty Posts: 161 Member
    Everybody wants to lose weight.
    In America it's not OK to be fat.
    Companies know this & they know finding the "fat cure" is the ultimate path to wealth. Yes, fads are exactly that. Fads.
    With the exception of intermittent fasting, none of these truly have good scientific-backing, but there are people who will try anything once, & there's nothing wrong with that.
    It isn't fair, however, to poke fun at people who did lose after going low sugar or low fat or cutting out whatever. No 2 people & no 2 bodies or metabolisms are 100% the same.
    Just because something doesn't work for everyone doesn't mean it won't work for someone.

    I saw someone comment on Alli (orlistat). Out of all weight-loss supplements, researchers give Orlistat the most praise. It doesn't make you lose weight, it changes the way you absorb fat.
    It recommends you watch your intake of fat or else have horrific bowel movements.
    So, even if it doesn't actually work for you, the side effects alone will get you to not eat bad fats :)
    So if you did experience "caustic poos" it's because you were eating a lot of bad fats.

    Inb4 fellow hippie science nerds
  • librarianjenne
    librarianjenne Posts: 66 Member
    Great post! I've lost more than 50 pounds so far sensibly and sustainably by making small changes that reduce the amount of calories I eat and increase the amount of calories I burn. It's amazing how many people don't want to hear that. And that sustainable weight loss can take a long time. I've been at it for seven years and have about 30 pounds to go.

    (Meal timing and reducing sugar can play a role in making it easier to maintain the desired calorie ratio, but they're not magic bullets, especially if you're still eating more than your body needs.)
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
    Everybody wants to lose weight.
    In America it's not OK to be fat.
    Companies know this & they know finding the "fat cure" is the ultimate path to wealth. Yes, fads are exactly that. Fads.
    With the exception of intermittent fasting, none of these truly have good scientific-backing, but there are people who will try anything once, & there's nothing wrong with that.
    It isn't fair, however, to poke fun at people who did lose after going low sugar or low fat or cutting out whatever. No 2 people & no 2 bodies or metabolisms are 100% the same.
    Just because something doesn't work for everyone doesn't mean it won't work for someone.

    I saw someone comment on Alli (orlistat). Out of all weight-loss supplements, researchers give Orlistat the most praise. It doesn't make you lose weight, it changes the way you absorb fat.
    It recommends you watch your intake of fat or else have horrific bowel movements.
    So, even if it doesn't actually work for you, the side effects alone will get you to not eat bad fats :)
    So if you did experience "caustic poos" it's because you were eating a lot of bad fats.

    Inb4 fellow hippie science nerds

    Sounds like a fad based on the principle of "eating fat makes you fat", which is absolutely NOT true.
  • klp1017
    klp1017 Posts: 95 Member
    I hate it when people insist that I do low carb to drop weight faster. No, when I do low carb I get angry throughout the day and end up massively binging at night. I'd much rather take my plateau, thanks. Everyone just watches Dr. Oz, hears about new fad diets, and think they know what's best for me to lose weight. Pretty sure I know my body better than you.
  • hzliiz
    hzliiz Posts: 166 Member
    Could you please get a time machine, travel back to 1989 and tell this to my 18 year old self? Now, she won't believe you b/c she, well, knows EVERYTHING. When she argues just thump her on the nose for me will you? Thank you.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    disagree

    it's not that simple, metabolism plays a huge role- assuming one wants to get fairly lean and not just from fat to skinny fat.
    What does metabolism role have to do with going from fat to skinny fat? That has more to do with how one sustains lean muscle, which addresses exercising protocol and not huge on metabolism.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Agree if I get one more person trying to hook me on shakeology... :noway: I even told one, "Sorry, I don't do fads". They actually tried to give me a lecture on why it wasn't a fad... :grumble:


    I LOVE SHAKEOLOGY :) i must say that it is the BEST protein powder out there!!
    Whoa that's sacrilege for those that sell it...............it's not a protein powder.................it's a nutritional supplement/meal replacement/nutritious drink that's way overpriced.:laugh:
    And trust when I say you can drink all the Shakeology you want, but if you don't have a calorie deficit with it, you ain't losing any weight.

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  • FearAnLoathingJ
    FearAnLoathingJ Posts: 337 Member
    I AM SPECIAL!!!!! I am a delicate little snowflake and to suggest otherwise is offensive! :explode: :noway:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Genuine question: is there really no distinction of types of calories in? I basically agree with your stance, but I've noticed in my own regimen that the more (non-vegetable derived) carb I eat, the harder it is for me to lose weight. So even holding total calories in constant, I lose faster when I eat more protein/fat and less carb. To the point where I can lose faster even when I eat a few more calories this way, than lower calories with higher carbs. I'm still in a deficit overall either way. So yeah, I guess I just wonder if calorie deficit is a necessary but not sufficient condition, at least for some of us. And then, does that make us special?
    Carbs are converted into glycogen and stored in the cells. To do this, water is also needed. So when someone goes low carb the initial loss will be lots of glycogen along with water. Protein and fats don't need water to be stored in the body, so this would mean less water weight. Once a low carber consumes carbs, it's not unusual for their weight to skyrocket because of glycogen and water storage again.
    And this happens with basically everyone in the general population. So not "special".

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  • cavia
    cavia Posts: 457 Member
    This is exactly what I read on another site that resulted in my finally being able to lose weight. "Nobody violates the first rule of thermodynamics. If you're in a deficit you lose, in a surplus you gain." I had been resistant to weighing my food until I read this from a well respected poster. I started weighing and I started losing.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Think NROLW is one of those money-making machines.
    Nope. Lifting weights actually is a great weight to lose weight and "harden" up those unconditioned muscles. Nothing wrong with a system that actually promotes health and is actually sustainable (once you learn it, you don't have to keep paying) for life.

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  • Mlkmaid
    Mlkmaid Posts: 356 Member
    So you've cracked the code but still managed to eat yourself out of shape? :)
  • A_Fit_Mom
    A_Fit_Mom Posts: 602 Member
    So true! I feel bad for the people who spend all the money on the gimmicks to lose weight. Or who go on the crazy diets and deprive themselves.

    I also get the "look", when I tell people I lost the weight from eating better and exercising. Then they look strangely at me when I eat a hamburger or have a piece of cake. They must think I starve and never have a treat.
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    I am too. niner, going to wrestle you now. ;/
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Blanket statements... all kinds of fallacies. If people weren't unique the same exact diet and exercise routine would work for everyone.
    Calorie deficit is what works for weight loss. There's NO DISCREPANCY from any Journals of Medicine, Physiology, Biology, etc. on this.
    As mentioned, unless there's health issues (including hormonal), reactions to certain foods calorie deficit works. There's no mention of what type of exercise or what type of diet to do to achieve this on the OP. Some will do it with IIFYM, some with 6 meals a day, etc., but it comes down to calorie deficit.

    So again, not special. Show me someone losing weight eating a calorie surplus..................that would be special.

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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    So you've cracked the code but still managed to eat yourself out of shape? :)

    Did you...just call Niner out of shape?

    ....I'm not sure what to say to that.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    So you've cracked the code but still managed to eat yourself out of shape? :)
    Lol, not out of shape. If I'm at 165lbs (which is what I have for goal) I'm at 9% BF or less. It's just a temporary goal since at my age it's hard to sustain, but to attain it for a couple of days would be good enough to say I did it again after last doing it 23 years ago. I hover right around 180lbs-190lbs year in and year out which keeps me at about 15%-20% BF well within reason.

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