Considering Creatine

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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

fb47 wrote: »

tillerstouch wrote: »

So I'm really looking for people's opinion on taking creatine. Did you have much luck with it? And also what changes did you notice after you stopped taking creatine? Also brands you recommend.

A little background on me, I'm 21 year old male 180 pounds 5'8". I'm currently working on building strength (muscle size isn't my focus, my actual strength is). I don't care too much about my weight on the scale. I'm working on building muscle for the next 2 months before I do a cut for the summer and try to lower my b.f%. I lift hard on a 5 day split and eat a moderate calorie surplus. The suppliments I currently take are a multivitamin, bcaa during my workout, and I have protien powder I take when I'm going going to hit my protien goals.

Didn't read what everyone else have said, but creatine is known and scientifically proven to work. For the price they cost, it's worth it. Make sure it's monohydrate. I would ditch the BCAA's, you don't need it and they are useless, here is a scientific research basically showing what a waste of money they are ( https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-016-0128-9 )

Well, technically you do need BCAA's since they are all EAAs but you don't need them as separate supplements beyond protein. One of the early studies, that is sited on examine.com, was sponsored by a company that was being sold that was obviously bogus since it involved trained lifters that made very impressive gains during the study and these gains were indicative of heavy drug use. This, of course, was the 500lb gorilla that was never addressed.

I was talking about BCAA'S supplements alone, in the grand scheme of things, buying the supplement vs what it costs, it's definitely not worth it.

Wheelhouse15

fb47 wrote: »

Wheelhouse15 wrote: »

fb47 wrote: »

tillerstouch wrote: »

So I'm really looking for people's opinion on taking creatine. Did you have much luck with it? And also what changes did you notice after you stopped taking creatine? Also brands you recommend.

A little background on me, I'm 21 year old male 180 pounds 5'8". I'm currently working on building strength (muscle size isn't my focus, my actual strength is). I don't care too much about my weight on the scale. I'm working on building muscle for the next 2 months before I do a cut for the summer and try to lower my b.f%. I lift hard on a 5 day split and eat a moderate calorie surplus. The suppliments I currently take are a multivitamin, bcaa during my workout, and I have protien powder I take when I'm going going to hit my protien goals.

Didn't read what everyone else have said, but creatine is known and scientifically proven to work. For the price they cost, it's worth it. Make sure it's monohydrate. I would ditch the BCAA's, you don't need it and they are useless, here is a scientific research basically showing what a waste of money they are ( https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-016-0128-9 )

Well, technically you do need BCAA's since they are all EAAs but you don't need them as separate supplements beyond protein. One of the early studies, that is sited on examine.com, was sponsored by a company that was being sold that was obviously bogus since it involved trained lifters that made very impressive gains during the study and these gains were indicative of heavy drug use. This, of course, was the 500lb gorilla that was never addressed.

I was talking about BCAA'S supplements alone, in the grand scheme of things, buying the supplement vs what it costs, it's definitely not worth it.

True, actually pretty much every supplement is just overpriced and unnecessary. Even the much vaunted creatine will result in pretty much zero difference for the vast majority of people because they aren't going to be pushing themselves hard enough to need the extra rep or two. Even those who can benefit from it would see minimal difference but those are elites and they survive by accumulating small advantages.

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Chieflrg wrote: »

brizzlar wrote: »

sgt1372 wrote: »

brizzlar wrote: »

My friend is currently training to be a kidney specialist (already a medical doctor ). She advised me to avoid using creatine. That's now my advice too.

Why?

More specifically, what are the medical reasons not to use creatine? I'll look up the topic on the Net in the meantime to see if I can find the precautions/concerns there. Thanks.

Not sure mate, all I know is it impacts the kidneys negatively.

No, it might effect someone like myself with kidney disease. It's does not effect them on it's own to a normally functional kidney.

Correct. There are longitudinal studies on individuals with healthy renal function and the studies strongly suggest no negative impact to renal function. Now, in the case of somebody that has problems with their kidneys; Creatine might very well be a bad decision. Unfortunately we will probably never see a study done on individuals with renal dysfunction using Creatine.

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middlehaitch wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up on the insomnia @Gisel2015.
Since I am doing it in the morning I hope I won't be bothered.

Cheers, h.

like to hear how it goes for you. i don't take it so much for specific effects in the gym, though i think it does have some. my main reason is i'm just more physically comfortable on it. the water retention goes straight into your muscles, and my muscles like that sensation a lot.